Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 26, 2003 Seriously, do I need to bust out the dictionary definition of "satire" for some of you people? I try and break out a moment of levity to the discussion and look at what it gets me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted July 26, 2003 And some of those countries that we've liberated have done really well for themselves as well. The Germans and the French are doing ok are they not? How about Japan? America did not liberate Japan. Nor can America make the sole claim to liberating France either. And The United States and it's allies only "liberated" Western Germany, while allowing the Soviets to do what they wanted with Eastern Germany. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest redbaron51 Report post Posted July 26, 2003 and don't say America freed Italy and Netherlands in WWII either... there's enough people that think of that (IE Time Magazine) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2003 Who in the fuck likes David hasselhoff? Oh wait I think he is actually really popular with teh Germans. What's the deal with that anyway? Americans like Avril Lavigne and Evanescence. 'Nuff said. Also, Vyce: what was the point of that "satirical" post anyhow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted July 26, 2003 Survey: Many Germans Believe U.S. Sponsored Hitler (2003-07-24) -- About a third of young Germans believe the United States attacked itself on September 11, 2001, and that Adolf Hitler was a Cleveland-born foreign exchange student sponsored by the FBI. The survey of 1,000 people for the weekly Die Zeit (The Pimple), also showed that most Germans believe the following: -- The U.S. paid the Emperor of Japan to attack Pearl Harbor in hopes it would lead eventually to more fuel-efficient cars. -- The U.S. has sponsored four of the last five San Francisco earthquakes. -- David Hasselhoff really drives a talking car and is the greatest rock and roll singer of the past 100 years. -- CNN and MSNBC are American news organizations. DI you people who took this seriosly actually read it? How the fuck could the US "sponser" an earthquake? Who in the fuck likes David hasselhoff? Oh wait I think he is actually really popular with teh Germans. What's the deal with that anyway? what the hell does david haselhoff have to do with anything in this SG? who gives a fuck if german people like him. They can have bad taste if they like. and there are a heck of alot worse actors out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Just to try and pull this back towards the original topic a bit, another thing to remember is that many people who are pissed at the US will just give the most anti-US answer possible, whether or not they think it's true. I bet if you double-checked each of these answers by putting the respondents through a polygraph the numbers would be a lot lower. I know from personal experience that on certain polls I simply gave the most inflammatory answers, even though I didn't really believe them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Who in the fuck likes David hasselhoff? Oh wait I think he is actually really popular with teh Germans. What's the deal with that anyway? Americans like Avril Lavigne and Evanescence. 'Nuff said. Also, Vyce: what was the point of that "satirical" post anyhow? Oh God. No. I will not explain it to you. If you can't figure it out yourself, just don't bother. Explaining a joke always KILLS the joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Insane Bump Machine Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Who in the fuck likes David hasselhoff? Oh wait I think he is actually really popular with teh Germans. What's the deal with that anyway? No, he isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Who in the fuck likes David hasselhoff? Oh wait I think he is actually really popular with teh Germans. What's the deal with that anyway? Americans like Avril Lavigne and Evanescence. 'Nuff said. Also, Vyce: what was the point of that "satirical" post anyhow? Oh God. No. I will not explain it to you. If you can't figure it out yourself, just don't bother. Explaining a joke always KILLS the joke. I don't need it explained for me. I just didn't understand the point. What, you want people to know you're patriotic? Want peple to know you think Germans are dumb? Wanna get a reaction? It was just a stupid post, done to insult Germans and get a reaction, yeah? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 27, 2003 That does sound like something I may have said. This is lame, but I didn't REALLY mean those remarks about Shawn Michaels (I don't know Beast well enough to know if he's just making a mean-spirited joke like I was). But even if I did, he's just a pro wrestler, instead of two prominent members of the current administration. Well, I wouldn't say Shawn Michaels' life is worth less than someone else's just because he doesn't run the country. And I'm no great lover of Shawn Michaels. While I respect his in-ring work, I also disdained the things he has done in the past. And I think Bret Hart was wronged in the Montreal screw-job. But this can be discussed later. I don't want to get off-topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gathering Moss Report post Posted July 27, 2003 I don't want to get off-topic. Than why did you bother to post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JMA Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Than why did you bother to post? I believe it needed to be said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted July 28, 2003 I don't need it explained for me. I just didn't understand the point. What, you want people to know you're patriotic? Want peple to know you think Germans are dumb? Wanna get a reaction? It was just a stupid post, done to insult Germans and get a reaction, yeah? NO. Jango starts this thread by posting a poll from Germany. Jobber then makes with the serious "Look how we've squandered the good will of the world!" post. I post my little satire. "Hey, here's some other wacky things that the Germans believe!" The point of the satire: DON'T TAKE THESE POLLS TOO FUCKING SERIOUSLY. If you think that's outrageously insulting to the Germans, I'm SORRY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Explain how we were "looking out for [ourselves]" when we went into Somalia and Bosnia. And look where those prosperous countries are... Ah, the posts I missed in my much-needed sabbatical. So, the world HATES it when we impose OUR culture on others. But when we DON'T do it and allow them to live as they wish, we're bad, too. Are you sure you're name isn't Yossarian? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted August 4, 2003 The funny thing is how we used to have so much of the world's sympathy until we squandered it away by flaunting our position of authority. Such a poll would have never appeared in the month or two after 9/11 except in streets of Afghanistan. Oh PLEASE. They're Germans. They likely believe that the Jews were responsible for it. Spare me the tired "We squandered the world's good will" argument. It's ever so cliche. Good lord you're a dolt. Nazi does not equal German. And vice versa. The Nazi's were a political party that used propaganda and lies to gain control of Germany. A lot of Nazi's weren't even German. To sit here and generalize all German's as anti-semite's is just about as fucking ignorant as Gamecop's "it's okay for Kobe to rape people" rant. As for the poll, there have been TONS of reports circulated that illustrate the Bush Admin had plenty of prior knowledge that SOMETHING was going to happen on Sept. 11. I'm not saying THEY staged it, but PNAC [Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld & Paul Wolfowitz] even released a report called "Rebuilding America's Defenses" where they state that what they need to kickstart it all was "some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor..." An interesting read for those who have open minds and can accept the concept that it IS possible for the government to be corrupt: http://pilger.carlton.com/print/124759 and another http://www.terraknowledge.net/news/terrak040503a.htm Since this is mentioned, I'll pose the same question many others have asked: Let's say Bush knew EXACTLY where and when the attacks would happen. What the heck could he DO about it? Shut down Manhattan and Washington DC for a day? Yeah, THAT is feasible. And, just for history's sake, at the time of Hitler's gaining of power, Germans tended to be either Communist or Nazi --- which is why the President had to rule by decree for YEARS. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted August 4, 2003 Hell, even in that BBC poll something like 13% of Americans felt that the US was actually more dangerous than Al Queda. I'm pretty damn sure that the US have caused and will cause more pain, suffering and civillian deaths than Al-Queda(sp?), no? It's not a huge leap of faith to think the US government is the more dangerous of the two... Well, except that we do more, you know, GOOD for the world than any country in history has. You know who fed Afghanistan for years? Hint: Not the Taliban, not Al Qaeda. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted August 4, 2003 So why are things still being produced there and America taking advantage of it? Because America looks out for America. Screw the rest. So, we should totally embargo Vietnam because of an idiotic war that we got into to bail out France? Man, aren't YOU the nice one? -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted August 4, 2003 What's sad is that Jewish schools in your country still need armed guards to protect them from your peace-loving citizens, and that graffiti proclaiming "SIX MILLION JEWS WEREN'T ENOUGH" is a fairly unremarkable sight in Berlin. Try cleaning up the South before you start throwing stones about Racism in another country. It is amazing the sheer level of anti-Southern U.S BS that exists out there amongst the "enlightened" -=Mike --- who realizes that if some were believed, every white person in the South has a KKK robe under their bed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheMikeSC Report post Posted August 4, 2003 And some of those countries that we've liberated have done really well for themselves as well. The Germans and the French are doing ok are they not? How about Japan? America did not liberate Japan. Nor can America make the sole claim to liberating France either. And The United States and it's allies only "liberated" Western Germany, while allowing the Soviets to do what they wanted with Eastern Germany. The French economy COLLAPSED in 1956. We bailed them out. The USSR tried to starve Berlin. WE stopped that. America --- we're such the bastards. -=Mike ...Who is amazed that Stalin taking advantage of a VERY sick FDR somehow is a negative on the U.S Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
