rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2003 I'm chatting to prime on AIM at the moment. Anyone got any questions for him/her? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Eagan469 Report post Posted July 25, 2003 who? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2003 the man who spreads the theory of prime. 28-32 prime, 33+ decline. For all his bad stick, he argues better and more intelligently than some in CE... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Eagan469 Report post Posted July 25, 2003 the man who spreads the theory of prime. 28-32 prime, 33+ decline. For all his bad stick, he argues better and more intelligently than some in CE... oh, the guy who IM'd me a few weeks back? Here's my question: Are you on crack? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2003 The man has no life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted July 25, 2003 Ask him why he feels the need to harass people with his jackass theories through AIM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2003 prime says to prove your theories with facts. and he has a life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted July 25, 2003 prime says to prove your theories with facts. and he has a life. Good god. Are you defending him? Are you PRIME???!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest *scratches head and leaves* Report post Posted July 25, 2003 *scratches head and leaves* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2003 prime says to prove your theories with facts. and he has a life. Good god. Are you defending him? Are you PRIME???!!! no. I'll post the transcript later for anyone who cares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Just call me Dan Report post Posted July 25, 2003 God, I thought he was done. He IMed me yesterday, but since he is not on my List, and I have toi accept his message, he is easily thwarted. He hasn't changed his name in forever, so he's easily spotted, but even if he did, I don't accept messages from people not on my list. Thank God that shit is over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2003 He proves he has no life by trying to shove the prime concept down our damn throats. Why the fuck does he care so much about PRIME anyway? Oh wait, nevermind, just tell him we all said "Fuck off." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2003 For anyone who gives a fuck: chaverocks: hi Guest: 28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline, do you acknowledge this? chaverocks: wow, you still about? kudos! Guest: Do you acknowledge this? chaverocks: yeah, why not. it seems an odd thing to try and prove though. What relevance has it got on the world? Guest: The prime concept can be proven with many people and it cannot be disproven, so it is proven, it is law, it is not an odd thing to try and prove. Its relevance is that from 28-32 you peak and 33+ you decline chaverocks: yeah, but why is that relevant? Everyone peaks at some point, why does it matter when? Guest: It is relevant so people know when people peak chaverocks: but you need a specific date for this knowledge tobe useful. A peak is one specific point. When abouts between 28 and 32 does it occur? Should I just be on my guard for 5 years? Guest: 28-32, for 5 years is the prime chaverocks: you can't be consistantly prime for five years. There has to be one specific point during this time when you are more prime than the others. Guest: nope, 28-32 you stay the same, at the top of your game, you don't change chaverocks: in what manner? You've got to have Circadian rhythms throughout your day. I may be more prime in the morning than the afternoon. I may be more prime at weekends. I may be more prime at 31 than 20 or 32 Guest: You can change from morning to afternoon, and on weekends, but from 28-32, you are at your best on mornings, afternoons, and weekends, etc chaverocks: define prime. Physically? Mentally? Sexually? Paranormally? Guest: prime is from 28-32, it is when you peak in all aspects except experience chaverocks: what hapens on your 27th birthday to make you prime? Does it happen immediately? That defies all logic... Guest: On your 28th birthday you stop improving, you stay at your peak until you turn 33, then the aging and declining process begins chaverocks: But many sportsmen peak either before or after there prime.. You can't make a unifying theory: there will always be abnormalities Guest: That isn't true, everyone peaks from 28-32, unless they have had a major disease, major injuries, do drugs, or just don't try Guest: So other than that, everyone peaks 28-32 Guest: So about 90%+ peak 28-32 Guest: and the rest fall into those exceptions chaverocks: How do you know? And if there is a point at which you start to deteriorate, it doesn't happen on your 33rd birthday. It must begin to happen at some point between 28 and 30, yeah? Guest: I know because statistics prove it, and the declining process begins when you turn 33 chaverocks: On your 33rd birthday? That is in complete anti-thesis to all biological knowledge. You can't give an exact date for the onset of deterioration. BTW I've started a post on TSM asking if anyone has any questions for you. It will save you chatting to them later Guest: Well if you haven't posted it, don't because I am not a user on the forum Guest: And this has been discussed on the forum before and I just talk with people on AIM who haven't heard this before or need to here more of it chaverocks: I know, but I am on the board. It's just so that people who have questions for you can discuss them through me without you AIMing them.. Some people don't like that. It's in NHB if you want to read it. Guest: There are exact dates in science chaverocks: such as? Guest: Like if someone rips your heart out, you will die immediately or in this certain amount of time Guest: Not that you could die immediately or you could die in 3 hours Guest: it is exact, in some cases in science chaverocks: the time of death after having your head ripped off is not exact. It varies according to environment, condition, neuron speed. chaverocks: any more exact times? Guest: I said heart not head chaverocks: same applies. It depends on condition, environment, impulse speed. Are you saying that your theory of prime is only precise if you are in peak physical condition in a temporate environment? Guest: I am saying other than those exceptions, 90%+ of people will peak 28-32 Guest: Now people are starting to respond to the thread Guest: One poster said "this guy has no life" tell him that I have a normal life and that i'm not obsessive about prime, it is just one of the many topics i like to talk about chaverocks: yeaah, fuck them unless they have a legitimate question. You can AIM them after we have reached an agreement.. In all biological organisms, peak prime is dependant on condition and environment, yes? That means that the theory of prime only applies if you are immaculately healthy. Are you immaculately healthy? Guest: Another poster said this "Ask him why he feels the need to harass people with his jackass theories through AIM." Say the words he used doesn't disprove the prime concept, if you want to prove it wrong, then disprove it with facts Guest: 90%+ of people it applies to unless they have one of those exceptions, plus if they are very unhealthy, which is similar to having a major disease Guest: Well I wish for you to reply to those 2 posters Guest: Because dumb people fall for vulgar insults instead of listening to the facts Guest: For instance if I present facts to argue something, then the next guy says "shutup fag" then some people will automatically not listen to me and think i am "gay" because of what the previous poster said chaverocks: not just majorly unhealthy, all nuances will affect the time you are prime. If I smoke or drink, it will affect when I am prime, yes? Guest: it doesn't, because unless you do a lot of drugs or something very serious, it won't or will hardly affect your lifespan Guest: If you smoke 2 packs a day every day for the past 10 years, that hurts Guest: but smoking a few cigarettes a week won't as long as you don't get cancer Guest: You can post the AOL conversation on there, I don't mind Guest: It will be easier than to just directly respond to their questions with what I want to say to them chaverocks: yes it will. smoking has other affects than cancer. someone who lives in a city will live significantly shorter than someone who lives iin the countryside, yes? therefore their prime will be at a different age. Guest: Say more than "he has a life" edit that I have a life plus talking prime is just one of the many things i like to talk about Guest: That is untrue living in a city will cut your lifespan, unless you are seriously affected by the pollution, if there is enough Guest: If you tell them he "has a life" it is easy for them to say "no he doesn't!" but if you just give a short explanation they will understand that i do chaverocks: No, all minor factors will affect you, and accumulate within your body. All it takes is for your prime to be off by a day or two and it disproves your theory. Guest: Minor factors don't affect you, like if you get a small cut, that won't take away from your lifespan chaverocks: pick a topic and stay on it. Prime or TSM thinking ill of you. Chose one, and we'll discuss it Guest: The cut will go away shortly, and you will be fine Guest: TSM thinking ill of me Guest: Because as we talk about prime, they will continue to reply to the thread, and we will be farther behind in that chaverocks: most have stopped replying to the thread. you realise that constantly asking people to acknowledge prime doesn't help your cause. Guest: It does Guest: Most people are ignorant of the prime concept Guest: I tell them what the concept is and to acknowledge it, if they don't then I try to explain it to them further so they will understand Guest: Reply to those 2 posters with what I told you before Guest: nobody else has replied to it except those 2 Guest: or you can just put the AOL conversation up there Guest: people have done it many times chaverocks: but giving them a choice of acknowledging it or you not leaving them alone won't make them believe it. I'll put this script up later Guest: They don't have a choice, because it is a proven concept that hasn't been disproven Guest: They can either, acknowledge it or try to disprove it chaverocks: but you will not accept that people don't agree with you. You can't force someone to acknowledge prime. Guest: They do agree with me, they just don't realize it, they just spew out insults and tell me to "go away" Guest: Telling me "shut up god damn!" or "you fag" does not disprove the concept Guest: If they want me to leave them alone they either have to acknowledge prime or disprove prime chaverocks: but, if you didn't tell them to acknowledge it, thay would be more likely to admit it, yes? You don't have to disprove prime: you can just ignore it. Guest: If I didn't tell them to acknowledge prime it would have no affect on their decision Guest: They either understand the concept and will acknowledge it, understand the concept and will try to disprove it and fail, or not understand the concept and call me names or ignore me chaverocks: it does. before you AIM'd me, I had already made up my mind about prime. Nothing you or anyone else can say will change my mind. Prime is like religion: You can believe in it, try to argue against it or accept that there is no point in arguing either way and just leave it be. Guest: Religion can't be proven so people can logically not accept it Guest: Prime cannot be disproven or hasn't yet, so it cannot be unaccepted Guest: Unless they disprove it Guest: You haven't disproved prime Guest: Saying minor things affect prime is untrue, I mentioned getting a small cut, that is a minor thing, and that does not affect prime chaverocks: how can religion be disproven though. Getting a small cut is not a factor which affects your lifespan. Eating, for example, an extra Mars bar every day will. If you eat chocolate, your prime will be affected. Guest: Religion can't be proven, so there is no logical reason to accept it chaverocks: Prime can't be proven, so there is no logical reason to accept it Guest: It can be proven by statistics Guest: Go to any of the 90%+ Guest: of sports players Guest: and look up there stats Guest: they clearly peak 28-32 chaverocks: they must have a peak in those years. They don't stay exactly constant between those years. That means prime must be at a point between those years with the decline starting at some point during it. Guest: Overall, from 28-32, their stats are the same chaverocks: give me an example of some sportsmen whose stats remain exactly consistent between the ages of 28 and 32, and tail off before and after, and I may begin to start considering that you have proven prime... Guest: Usually the player tries harder in different areas each year, it is very hard for a player to do it all at the same time Guest: They have the most ability 28-32 Guest: But a player for instance can concentrate on defense and lose his technique in batting chaverocks: But, if prime is true then out of all al the millions of sportsmen in the world, at least one would have stayed completely consistant during his prime period. Guest: One person being 100% constant in his prime isn't proven, but there could be some people like that chaverocks: but therefore prime isn't proven. As soon as you can prove without doubt that prime exists, then you will always have people who disagree. you have to acceptthat. do you have a name i can call you? I would call you Lkdg32, but I'm sure that's not a name you use regularly... chaverocks: i meant until you can prove Guest: It is proven, 28-32 you peak, and can be proven with statistics, overall a players statistics will be better from 28-32 than from 33-37 or from 23-27 Guest: for 90%+ of them chaverocks: but it isn't proven. you have not given an arguement that will prove all the doubters wrong. All it takes is for one example to disprove your theory and prime is dead. so, what should I call you? Guest: But nothing has disproved the concept, and I have proven the concept many times with different players statistics Guest: So if it has been proven for many different people and has never been disproven, then it is a proven concept until disproven chaverocks: no, because i could say, for example, that The rock group The Manic Street Preachers reached their artistic and commercial peak before they reached 28, with their descent occuring just before their thirties. That disproves prime right there... Guest: They are one of the exceptions then Guest: I don't know anything about them, but it was either drugs or just not caring likely chaverocks: they are straight edge. and not caring would be symbolic of a decrease in mental capacity, which wouldn't occur during their prime. Guest: It was mental Guest: Likely Guest: Unless you give me a report of what happened to them Guest: A source online Guest: One poster said that i shove prime down their throats, that is because some of them don't try to disprove it and just use curse words and insults to me thinking that disproves the prime concept Guest: I want to end this conversation soon because I have to go shortly, lets wrap this up for now chaverocks: They're a big British band. I'll let you look for them online after we have finished. Annother major problems with the theory that many players reach their peak between 28-32 is that many of them will have had injuries or been on drugs. A lot higher than 10% of modern day professional atheletes have had injuries or have used drugs. That suggests that prime is not valid. Guest: 10% isn't a proven number it is just a guess Guest: Most people peak 28-32, the rest are the exceptions chaverocks: The majority of people suffer the same problems as those who you pass of as exceptions.If you say an athelete doesn't count because he was injured or using drugs, the same is true of many whose statistics you use to prove your claim Guest: The athletes I use to prove prime are under the 90%+ or the most category Guest: They are considered a normal person Guest: One whose life isn't messed up by drugs or diseases or major injuries chaverocks: A normal athelete uses drugs and has been affected by injury Guest: A normal athlete does not use major drugs and has been affected by injuries and possibly even a major injury, but major injuries don't always make your prime different from 28-32, it just can, but not always, and usually not even usually chaverocks: so why do you naturally assume that any athelete who doesn't fit in with your theory is one of those who is affected? That is like a Christian arguing that every arguement against the existence of God is flawed, simply because they are not willing to accept that arguement. Are you willing to accept prime may not exist? Guest: The athletes who don't fit into the prime concept is affected by the exceptions because this is always the case Guest: It is has never been disproven that this is untrue chaverocks: what about Maurice Greene? He peaked and set the World Record before his 28th birthday. Since then, his times have fallen... Guest: I have no knowledge of him, but I will have to look this up to see if this is true and he is not an exception, but now I have to go, so next time we talk we can discuss him with me having general knowledge of him chaverocks: see you dude. use the same screen name: i like discussing this with you... Guest: ok, and feel free to post the transcript Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Report post Posted July 26, 2003 His prime theories are bullshit posturing. I have forced him to admit as such in the past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Czech Republic Report post Posted July 26, 2003 Didn't we already shoot down Prime with Ric Flair, Ed Belfour, and Wayne Gretzky? Several times? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted July 26, 2003 Didn't we already shoot down Prime with Ric Flair, Ed Belfour, and Wayne Gretzky? Several times? Yes and Barry Bonds and Kurt Angle. His problem is he just can't AIM anyone he wants and force them to listen to his banter, especially when he then will not listen to your own theories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest IDrinkRatsMilk Report post Posted July 26, 2003 Just push all the prime shit aside and start talking about how much you hate the board and want to fuck it over. He'll tell you prime is just a gimmick he does to piss people off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2003 If there is no issue with posting or PMing this robot's screenname, I'd like to use it. I'm sure if you just say you'd like to talk with him, he'll get in touch. He has a habit of doing that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted July 26, 2003 "28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline, do you acknowledge this?" is the scariest fucking thing I've ever read for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rendclaw 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2003 Oh I remember this idiot. He Pm'ed me one day and told me that I'm old because I'm 34 years old and on the decline. That's crap, because I feel no different than I did when I was 29. I blocked him the first time, and he came at me again with that crap when I had reinstalled AOL on my system,which led me to block his lame ass again. ::laughs:: so thats his game, is it? What a loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted July 26, 2003 I've just been IMed by him. Hold me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 26, 2003 "28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline, do you acknowledge this?" is the scariest fucking thing I've ever read for some reason. Reminds me of the phone call they get in that movie, The Ring, "Seven days..." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted July 26, 2003 This has proved to be one of the most thought provoking conversations I've ever had. I'll update you all on it momentarily. There's so much more I need to find out. If I join a cult, who wants my stuff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted July 26, 2003 A seperate post to document this life-altering event...I changed his name to Prime to protect the innocent. My screen name remains the same, because I'm not between the ages of 28 and 32. Prime: hey mattman2561: hey... mattman2561: whos this? Prime: Matt Hardy is in his prime mattman2561: Oh mattman2561: Yes mattman2561: Yes he is Prime: 28-32 is prime, 33+ you decline, do you acknowledge this? mattman2561: I acknowledge it wholeHARDYly Prime: good mattman2561: Indeed mattman2561: Does anyone define prime? Prime: yes mattman2561: Who? mattman2561: I must know Prime: 28-32ers Prime: they define prime mattman2561: In the broad sense of the term, yes mattman2561: Allow me a moment to realize how to properly address this question I have mattman2561: I've not reached prime yet Prime: if you are under 28, that is correct mattman2561: Has there ever been anyone, between the ages of 28 and 32, that has reached a prime so incredible that they define prime? mattman2561: I have more questions, so if you could please...hurry mattman2561: I don't mean to be rude mattman2561: What about Optimus Prime? He's a robot, do robots age as men and women do? Can robots reach prime? mattman2561: Optimus Prime is also a truck mattman2561: Can automobiles reach prime? Prime: 28-32 is human prime mattman2561: What about Artificial Prime? Prime: i was busy, do you have any other questions to ask me? mattman2561: Has there ever been anyone, between the ages of 28 and 32, that has reached a prime so incredible that they define prime? Prime: no Prime: prime is when you are at your best, everyone has a best, and that best is 28-32 mattman2561: So its a totalitarian system mattman2561: No one can break out mattman2561: No one can break in Prime: Right mattman2561: What about Optimus Prime? He's a robot, do robots age as men and women do? Can robots reach prime? mattman2561: Optimus Prime is also a truck mattman2561: Can automobiles reach prime? mattman2561: I know those questions seem a little ridiculous, but its the best way I know how to phrase them Prime: nope mattman2561: I think I understand mattman2561: Automobiles get worse as they age, yet people can add new parts and replace faulty ones and automobiles can get better as they age mattman2561: Yet people get better and then get worse as they get older mattman2561: Theres no way to stop the aging process with living things mattman2561: I can preserve a machine or even make it better mattman2561: Right? mattman2561: There's so much more I need to know mattman2561: In 1997, Deep Blue, a computer program, beats Garry Kasparov, the world chess champion, in a regulation tournament....had Mr. Kasparov been a 28-32er, would he have been able to defeat the computer? mattman2561: But its time for me to go Prime: Probably Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted July 26, 2003 (edited) Well, I asked him about a Transformer. Oh, Death_Angel, your edit ruins my post AND said post has already been quoted. What ever am I to do? Edited July 26, 2003 by Mattdotcom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted July 26, 2003 Well, I asked him about a Transformer. Dude your conversation with him totally ruled. He was thrown off his game with the bombarding questions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mattdotcom Report post Posted July 26, 2003 The names have been changed again, and when marked with a time beside them, mark my friend Jimmy against Prime. My Friend (6:25:22 PM): hey My Friend (6:25:26 PM): what's prime? Prime (6:25:32 PM): 28-32, the peak of life My Friend (6:25:36 PM): really My Friend(6:25:38 PM): :-\ My Friend(6:26:00 PM): the peak of life? Prime (6:26:05 PM): yes My Friend(6:26:08 PM): what's that Prime (6:26:13 PM): Apex Prime (6:26:15 PM): Zenith My Friend(6:26:20 PM): the tvs? Me: I heart you My Friend: haha My Friend (6:26:20 PM): the tvs? Prime (6:26:40 PM): no My Friend(6:26:43 PM): alright My Friend(6:26:50 PM): i would consider television to be a peak of life My Friend(6:27:21 PM): i was pretty sure prime was 69-34.5 My Friend(6:27:27 PM): since that's 69...and half of 69 Prime (6:27:36 PM): i am going to block this name and all the other ones except for the thedeathangel one My Friend(6:27:49 PM): wow i have no idea what you're talking about My Friend(6:27:54 PM): i was just seaking prime:-( My Friend: did i win? Me: Did he block you? My Friend: yeh:-( Me: I guess so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest King of Kingdoms Report post Posted July 27, 2003 This prime stuff seems really real. God argue guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest King of Kingdoms Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Has this guy been previously banned, and when, are two things I'd like to know. why would be be baned with such good arguments and he seems polite two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Eagan469 Report post Posted July 27, 2003 Has this guy been previously banned, and when, are two things I'd like to know. why would be be baned with such good arguments and he seems polite two. die Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
