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Guest TheGame2705

Linda says it takes time and smarks say it takes pushing all the young guys. If you look back, new stars were created when there were no others available. In Late 1992, Flair was close to leaving and Savage was anything but a full time wrestler. Hogan would come back only to fight for 3 months in 1993 and Ultimate Warrior was once again AWOL. Thus you build up Bret Hart and Yokozuna. Bret Hart was done out of nowhere and he was only pushed at a time when he was needed. They also tried making new stars in Yokozuna (who only lasted for a year at most as a main eventer) and Lex Luger (who never did anything of note due to bad booking and later his own ignorance.) My plan for creating new stars is as follows.

 

You need the badass who not only beats the crap out of everyone but can also set a crowd on fire with a look ala Austin. I'd have to say this would be John Cena. The best part is, he doesn't even need to be a good wrestler. Austin never was at his height of popularity. Cena's proven he can connect and if he starts beating ass and continues not giving a crap about anyone, the fans will catch on like they're starting to do.

 

You need the charismatic cocky heel who can turn heel or face when needed ala The Rock. I'd have to say this would be Eddy Guerrero. Right now the fans will boo him unless he does face shtick then they cheer him and bonus, Guerrero will have the basic moves. The submission which never wins a match but fans still think it's cool (Lasso from El Paso), the finisher (something that is fast and deliberate), and he'll need a cocky move that the crowd will pop (frog splash with cocky taunt to set it up).

 

You need one guy from the old guard just to ease the fans into the new stars gradually who everyone knows has been around a long time ala Hart in 1997 and Taker in 98-99. I'd say that role would best go to Undertaker still. He plays the legend so well.

 

We need the sinister, do everything to win heel ala Triple H in 99-00. I'd say Chris Benoit would be good in this role as he won't need to speak much in this role, all he need to do is have the odds against him and prevail so you'll want to see his ass get beat.

 

Lastly we need the hero with the cool submission who can play heel well but the fans would rather cheer him. There's Jericho's deal right there.

 

They can't do this until everyone from the old guard except Taker is cleared out though. Undertaker plays a key part. He needs to eventually leave or take some time off to reinvent his character once the new stars are made. As for my plans for others:

 

Angle= He's a walking injury much like Austin now. Can't take chances with a guy like that. Let him have his fun while the stars are being made then talk about his retirement from the business he loved like Michaels did.

 

Shawn= The dude can work but he's gotta go. I don't think completely but make him a commentator. Right now both booths are suffering, moreso RAW. You need the guy who can call the action as best as possible, the guy who's clearly heel and has his own personal favorites, and then the wrestler who has the added knowledge of what's exactly going on.

 

Triple H= Another walking injury getting far more injured than Angle. Just retire him and have him talk about how the injuries did him in then keep him off-camera.

 

Lesnar= I see nothing to gain off him to be honest. Think Yokozuna. Not bad while it lasted. Send him to the IC title level and you're good.

 

Kane= Repackage him and have him come back 6 mos. down the road.

 

RVD= Solid upper midcarder.

 

Of course, the roster split must die.

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Guest Choken One

I'll say it again...The Roster Split is GOOD.

 

Jesus if we were still with the old way..Cena and Eddy never would be where they are now...

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Guest Kahran Ramsus

I won't say that the roster split is 'good', just that it is better than the alternative.

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Guest Trivia247

im a little disappointed with the Split PPVs though. you'd think with more matches needed to be filled they would allow the less exposed talent they got which are Good wrestlers to have matches.

 

Not everything deserves a overly dramatic angle for months.

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What? Repackage Kane? NOW? You're insane. Kane is the best thing on Raw sans Evolution in my opinion. He's a hot heel that's not HHH/Orton/Flair. A nice alternative for those of us who don't like Jericho's whining promos. Plus, his storyline is playing out nicely.

 

Benoit will could NEVER recapture the magic that was HHH '99-'01. As much as people try to downplay the great heel HHH once was, there's no denying that no one got the crowd in a heated frenzy more. He didn't use cheap heat or clever catchphrases, he wasn't particulalry funny. He went out there and said, "Hey, I'm going to beat you anyway I can," and he did, and the fans HATED it. And he got pure heat. No pops, no cheers, just straight boos for a good year. THAT's a heel. Benoit will never come close to that.

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Guest Lord of The Curry
I'll say it again...The Roster Split is GOOD.

 

Jesus if we were still with the old way..Cena and Eddy never would be where they are now...

Fuck yeah dude, I mean, Christ, Cena would still be a bland-ass, jacked up white dude with sub-par talent in the ring if he were left in OVW. Now look at him. He's the FUTURE~!.

 

FPB- What's w/ the Benoit hatred?

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Guest RavishingRickRudo

Um, if the WWE pushed Benoit like they pushed HHH (AAAALL the bells and whistles) I'm sure he'd get pretty darn close... but then again, there are a lot of guys who -given that push- would have gotten over as heels.

 

Making New Stars isn't hard. There are SO MANY formulas an organization can use, it doesn't take months or years to do.

 

The Brand Extentions major fault comes with the fact that the WWE does not know how to carry over storylines for 2 or 3 months. So what we get is one storyline getting a ton of attention and a lot of filler shows and pointless angles. It gets downright boring to watch.

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Guest Anglesault

So we're getting rid of Angle and Lesnar and keeping Cena and Kane...

 

Okay.

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Guest TheGame2705

Lesnar's not leaving and do you WANT Angle to get hurt anymore?

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Guest CanadianChick

I like your theory, but I still don't really think Jericho should be a face. He is about 10X better as a heel.

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Guest Anglesault
Lesnar's not leaving and do you WANT Angle to get hurt anymore?

Angle isn't nearly as injury prone as you claim.

 

And Lesnar is one of the most over guysin the company and he CAN work.

 

Replacing him the Cena, who is not quite a over and who really kind sucks in the ring really doesn't make sense.

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Guest ndzen

"Linda McMahon said"

 

Seriously: WHAT THE FRICK DOES LINDA McMAHON KNOW???

 

i mean honestly now. like her opinion isn't biased and retarded or something? gimme a break. (linda mcmahon... next you'll want to talk about g.w's brilliant wartime strategies from a guy who's never been to war such as "bring it on you silly iraqis")

 

i'm not saying you have to do something to understand it, but man it sure helps, and sometimes its obvious when people are just talking out the side of their necks.

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Lesnar is probably the most over hyped wrestler since Shawn Michaels.

 

I agree with your thoery. But instead of Taker, use Angle or, shit, Taker. There aren't many more old timers left. But we dont like old timers do we? Angle has the credibility of a legend, and he doesn't mind putting over new guys, and Rock too. He could put over people.

 

But Kane shouldn't be repackaged. Im one of the few internet fans who actually like the storyline, and Im pretty anti-WWE past 2001. Who was the last main event heel in the past year who was actually entertaining to watch? Chris Jericho? Yeah right. His heel promo skills nowadays could be compared to those of Essa Rios's. He should either turn face or write his own heel stuff. And if he is writing his own heel stuff, he has lost his touch from when he was in WCW. Triple H? He isn't entertaining and neither is Evolution. Never have been for that fact. (Speaking about Evo there)

 

But I think Cena is a star in the making, but how long can he keep the rapping gimmick up? I dont really buy a rapper as a champion credible. He should turn face, still be a rapper and just get his ass beat up by some heel and drop the rapping gimmick, but still cut rapping promos. I'd buy a champion in tights over one with a pad lock around his neck and a throwback.

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