Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 29, 2003 Now, call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever, but despite Vince's claims of "In competetion with ourselves" personaly feel that he doesn't want one of his shows to be decisively better than the other. That, in my opinion, is why when Smackdown started to get praised as head and shoulders better than Raw, he made an intentional decision to shit it up. The Al Wilson nonsense, Big Show push (which may have actually worked out for Smackdown in the long run) attempted Albert push, Hogan, Piper, Gowan, Sable, Stephanie and Vince himself dominating the show, and so on and so on. After three or four months of this sabotage, SD! was basically no better than Raw. Fast forward to Bad Blood. Raw managed to put on a show that was universally panned. It was worse than awful. If Smackdown's PPV did what it was capable of, it would blow Raw out of the water. Vince had to try his damndest to stop that, while still keeping a buyrate. He inserts himself on to the show. Stephanie gets a match. Gowan gets a match. Sable gets a match. Lord knows what Hogan and Piper would have been doing. Billy Gunn gets his ass on the show. Big Show is in the main, probably dropping the quality of that. Stupid Redneck Triathalon-esque Bar room brawl is added. Matt Hardy, Ultimo Dragon, Spanky and others have no match. The show looks awful going in. Well, as it turns out, everything that could have gone right for SD! did, and the show once again showed it's superiority to Raw. Anyway, the actual point is that with Summerslam coming up, Vince probably doesn't want SD! showing up Raw again, and with projected Raw clunkers in HHH/FGB, HBK/Suckbag, Y2J/Nash, Steiner/Test 2, Christian/Booker 90000, Kane/Someone and Dudleyz/Frenchmen, Raw's half of the show has absolutely NO decent looking matches. How will (if it will) Smackdown be shat on to compensate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted July 29, 2003 It could start to happen tomorrow night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted July 29, 2003 Vince/Lesnar Angle/Big Show APA/TWGTT Benoit/Rhyno (Not a bad match, but if that is the best the show contributes that is bad) That would be a quick way to fuck up SD's half of the show. Maybe throw in a Rey/Kidman match. Even if it is good I don't care about Kidman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Space_Cowboy Report post Posted July 29, 2003 They'll probably give us Lesnar/Vince, Angle/Show, maybe Sable/Steph 2, no cruiserweight title match, Taker going over someone useful, the usual crap they do to stink up the show. I wouldn't be surprised to see APA/TWGTT as well, just to ensure the tag title match won't be any good either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 (edited) Torch is reporting that Vince/Lesnar was never a serious idea for Summerslam and that Angle/Lesnar is pretty much a lock. I'll say: -WWE Title: Angle vs. Lesnar -US Title: Eddy vs. Benoit vs. Rhyno -CW Title: Mysterio vs. Kidman -Worlds Greatest/Big Show/Cena vs. Gowen/APA/Taker. That last one is more to get everyone on the PPV. I never realized how difficult it is with only half the spots per show. From RAW: -World Title: HHH vs. Goldberg -Kane vs. RVD -Tag Team Titles: La Resistance vs. Dudleys -HBK/Booker vs. Orton/Jericho Again that last one was to get more people on the show. Of course they could go for 9 or even 10 matches but that would make things shorter... Edited July 29, 2003 by Slapnuts00 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 29, 2003 -WWE Title: Angle vs. Lesnar -US Title: Eddy vs. Benoit vs. Rhyno -CW Title: Mysterio vs. Kidman -Worlds Greatest and Big Show vs. Gowen/APA -Stephanie vs. Albert Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 -WWE Title: Angle vs. Lesnar -US Title: Eddy vs. Benoit vs. Rhyno -CW Title: Mysterio vs. Kidman -Worlds Greatest and Big Show vs. Gowen/APA -Stephanie vs. Albert and Linda Mcmahon vs. Kane, there you go! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bps "The Truth" 21 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 This is so obvious. They'll do a Taker/Cena rematch. Unlike last time where Taker dominated the first half of the match than pulled Cena up from a pin like the jobber that he was made out to be, then kicking out of Cena's finisher, then pinning him clean to give the rub... THIS TIME: They'll have a one night only best of 7 series where Taker will win 4 straight and then proceed to beat him 3 more times to make sure that the rub is fully applied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted July 29, 2003 A house show is coming to my town August 10th (the same night as Pride: Grand Prix, which means I'm not going), and they are advertising these matches: Lesnar vs Angle Matt Hardy vs Rey Eddy/Tajiri vs TWGTT I don't know if this means anything for Summerslam, but I just thought I'd throw it out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted July 29, 2003 Well, it looks like another Albert push is coming. Maybe we'll get that Albert/Taker program at long last! And Taker puts the fellow hoss over at last unless he's completely heatless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest the pinjockey Report post Posted July 29, 2003 THIS TIME: They'll have a one night only best of 7 series where Taker will win 4 straight and then proceed to beat him 3 more times to make sure that the rub is fully applied. And if Taker shakes Cena's hand after the match, then what more could you ask? There is no bigger rub than the Taker handshake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 THIS TIME: They'll have a one night only best of 7 series where Taker will win 4 straight and then proceed to beat him 3 more times to make sure that the rub is fully applied. And if Taker shakes Cena's hand after the match, then what more could you ask? There is no bigger rub than the Taker handshake. And don't forget a good ol' pep talk at the end. Taker: "Kid....you're something else" Did wonders for Jeff Hardy's career Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 By the way, the proper way to crap up Smackdown's side: WWE Title: Kurt Angle© vs. Big Show Brock Lesnar vs. Vince McMahon US Title: Eddie Guerrero© vs. The Undertaker A-Train/John Cena/Matt Hardy vs. APA/Rey Misterio and, the rematch to end ALL rematches. Stephanie McMahon vs. Sable in an Evening Gown Match ! Now THAT's WrestleCrap ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted July 29, 2003 Shane vs Kane - Shane will run around the ring for 5 minutes with the big spot finish of getting thrown thru the ramp off of the titan tron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted July 29, 2003 OlympicHeroRVD: No Albert? No Nathan Jones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Space_Cowboy Report post Posted July 29, 2003 There'll have to be at least one McMahon match, there's no way they can keep themselves of the 2nd biggest show of the year. I wouldn't be shocked to see Vince, Steph and Shane all on the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYU 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 No, we got Albert. He'll be going over Rey Misterio in the 6-Man. See ? As for Nathan Jones....I don't know. Have him punk out Ultimo Dragon in the back. Nathan's big. Ultimo's small. Nathan's tough. Ultimo's light. It's money in the bank ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CanadianChick Report post Posted July 29, 2003 THIS TIME: They'll have a one night only best of 7 series where Taker will win 4 straight and then proceed to beat him 3 more times to make sure that the rub is fully applied. And if Taker shakes Cena's hand after the match, then what more could you ask? There is no bigger rub than the Taker handshake. And don't forget a good ol' pep talk at the end. Taker: "Kid....you're something else" Did wonders for Jeff Hardy's career And Rey Mysterio's. He sure was shot up the ranks after getting the handshake after the first round match to determine the number one contender for Backlash. Oh, and didn't Undertaker give cena the 'rub' last year when Cena was still the rookie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rockfan Report post Posted July 29, 2003 SPOILER....MOLES MOMMY COMES BACK FROM THE DEAD ON SMACKDOWN! I LIKE TO FOLE MOLES MOMMY! POEMS RULE, PP FOREVER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nWoScorpion Report post Posted July 29, 2003 Vince Mcmahon def. Kurt Angle clean for the title. A-Train def. Eddie Guerrero in 30 seconds. Big Show def. Ultimo Dragon, Moore, Hardy, Kidman, Mysterio in 1 minute. Undertaker def. Rikishi APA def. TWGTT now THATS a shitty line up lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rockfan Report post Posted July 29, 2003 MOLES MOM IS A GOOD LAY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AndrewTS Report post Posted July 29, 2003 No, we got Albert. He'll be going over Rey Misterio in the 6-Man. See ? As for Nathan Jones....I don't know. Have him punk out Ultimo Dragon in the back. Nathan's big. Ultimo's small. Nathan's tough. Ultimo's light. It's money in the bank ! Eh, I still didn't notice "A-Train" as being his new name. And remember that Nathan did that awesome spin kick so he can show Ultimo how to work kicks into his match right. Oh, and didn't Undertaker give cena the 'rub' last year when Cena was still the rookie? Yeah, he gave him a pat on the back and congrats for his near-upset of Angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted July 29, 2003 Have we gotten justification for this attempted Albert push yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted July 29, 2003 The Smackdown! House Show coming to my town is 2 days after SummerSlam. So whatever matches they advertise will probably be enough for us to figure out who's going to be at the PPV, what titles, if any, change hands, and so on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 29, 2003 He's Big. Isn't that enough for you bitter, jaded, cynical, negative, smarks! RRR: Likes Albert. Doesn't "get" burying him down the card only for him to quickly rise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CronoT Report post Posted July 29, 2003 He's Big. Isn't that enough for you bitter, jaded, cynical, negative, smarks! RRR: Likes Albert. Doesn't "get" burying him down the card only for him to quickly rise. Albert is a worthless, festering piece of crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RavishingRickRudo Report post Posted July 29, 2003 But he has such a neat moveset~!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 Worst thing I can see happening on Smackdown's side for SS would definitely be an APA / TWGTT match. Not even the talents of Benjamin and Haas can make APA look good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
{''({o..o})''} 0 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 I really don't get the A-Train hate. He tries hard, is constantly adding some to a pretty good moveset, and could become quite a worker if he went on a couple of tours in Japan or put in with some more skilled opponents. I think if Vader, one of the best big men ever, was debuting today he would get booed just because of his fatness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slapnuts00 Report post Posted July 29, 2003 I dont doubt he tries hard but he can't keep up with the better workers because he's big and fat and does BIG MAN OFFENSE~!©Dames2003, plus him in short trunks is not a pleasent site... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites