Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 30, 2003 ...should get the axe. Since I posted about Johnson hacking into my account, I've gotten several AIM's asking me to explain myself. Here goes: On the day the Iraq War began Johnson posted that he was opening up a message board. I decided to sign up and I used the same username and password there as I did here. Johnson and I didn't get along (what a surprise) at his board so I left. Soon after it went defunct. We also had a flamewar in NHB over perceieved biases Dames had against certain posters. A little bit after this, Zack Malibu sends me a reply to a PM that the computer says I sent, but that i don't remember sending. Obviously someone else did it, using my name, and tried to stir up shit between myself and the only person on my buddies list: Zack Malibu. This ruled out an OAOAST'er because they would have known well enough to send shit like this to all the OAOAST mods. But this didn't. He only sent to the one person on my Buddies List: Zack Malibu. I changed my password, and confronted Johnson with what I knew: He didn't deny it. I told Dames about it, but never got an answer. I talked to Tom, he said while there was no SPECIFIC passage saying this was a bannable action, that he could be banned under this. From the TSM Rules and Regulations: "Moderators are fully authorized to use their own discretion when dealing with any situation they encounter, and to mete out any penalties they see fit." In short Johnson was the only one who knew my Password. He had motive, means, and opportunity. There you have it, ladies and gentlemen: The case against Johnson1620. I leave the verdict up to the mods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Unless you have proof, it's no good. For all you know, it could have been Dames using your account. Anyways, Johnson hasn't posted here for a bit. Maybe he's left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Unless you have proof, it's no good. For all you know, it could have been Dames using your account. Anyways, Johnson hasn't posted here for a bit. Maybe he's left. He's the only one other then the mods who knew my PW. If you can build a case against one of them, it'd be a different story. Plus he could've denied it, and I would've given him the benefit of the doubt, but he didn't. He never replied Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Unless you have proof, it's no good. For all you know, it could have been Dames using your account. Anyways, Johnson hasn't posted here for a bit. Maybe he's left. He's the only one other then the mods who knew my PW. If you can build a case against one of them, it'd be a different story. Plus he could've denied it, and I would've given him the benefit of the doubt, but he didn't. He never replied Oh, I don't doubt it was him. But without any concrete proof, you can't do anything. If the mods banned him, they'd be opening up a whole new can of worms as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Unless you have proof, it's no good. For all you know, it could have been Dames using your account. Anyways, Johnson hasn't posted here for a bit. Maybe he's left. He's the only one other then the mods who knew my PW. If you can build a case against one of them, it'd be a different story. Plus he could've denied it, and I would've given him the benefit of the doubt, but he didn't. He never replied Oh, I don't doubt it was him. But without any concrete proof, you can't do anything. If the mods banned him, they'd be opening up a whole new can of worms as well. If you don't doubt it, I don't need any more proof then I have. I think this is "beyond a reasonable doubt." I'm sure if the mods were to check every computer that's accessed my account and cross referenc ethem with computers that have accessed Johnson's account they'd find proof. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I didn't give a shit about that board. And all this you are saying in complete bullshit. What reason would I have for doing that? I think it might be because MrZsasz sent me a PM about a week ago saying he agreed with me on the Kobe case and wanted me to talk to him about it on AIM, I ignored the PM. Sounds like somebody got thier feelings hurt and is trying to pay me back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Unless you have proof, it's no good. For all you know, it could have been Dames using your account. Anyways, Johnson hasn't posted here for a bit. Maybe he's left. He's the only one other then the mods who knew my PW. If you can build a case against one of them, it'd be a different story. Plus he could've denied it, and I would've given him the benefit of the doubt, but he didn't. He never replied Oh, I don't doubt it was him. But without any concrete proof, you can't do anything. If the mods banned him, they'd be opening up a whole new can of worms as well. If you don't doubt it, I don't need any more proof then I have. I think this is "beyond a reasonable doubt." I'm sure if the mods were to check every computer that's accessed my account and cross referenc ethem with computers that have accessed Johnson's account they'd find proof. If they can, and are willing to do so, then fair enough. Johnson's post above, and others like them from people who sympathise with him, are the reasons not to do that without proof though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I didn't give a shit about that board. And all this you are saying in complete bullshit. What reason would I have for doing that? I think it might be because MrZsasz sent me a PM about a week ago saying he agreed with me on the Kobe case and wanted me to talk to him about it on AIM, I ignored the PM. Sounds like somebody got thier feelings hurt and is trying to pay me back. That was an attempt by me, to bury the hatchet, It doesn't change the fact that you never answered my PMs. I took this up with dames before. Ask him dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted July 30, 2003 RAPIST~! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Eagan469 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I didn't give a shit about that board. And all this you are saying in complete bullshit. What reason would I have for doing that? I think it might be because MrZsasz sent me a PM about a week ago saying he agreed with me on the Kobe case and wanted me to talk to him about it on AIM, I ignored the PM. Sounds like somebody got thier feelings hurt and is trying to pay me back. 1 - You're a douche for ignoring the PM 2 - You're using that as an excuse for something totally unrelated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AM The Kid Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Riiight, Zsasz would go and make that up because you didnt reply to a board PM. I remember the thing about you going into his account, that was a long time ago. Zsasz just brought it back up because the new trend is to hate you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 But the thing is I never did it. I would never thin to do that. I have never had problems with him at all. This is just a ploy to get me banned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I would never thin to do that. Would you, "FAT", to do that? *dodges tomatos* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest AM The Kid Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I don't believe so...I remember the argument quite clearly. You did admit to doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 30, 2003 But the thing is I never did it. I would never thin to do that. I have never had problems with him at all. This is just a ploy to get me banned. No, Johnson. This is not a ploy. This is me, sick of your shit, and sick that I let you get away with this because I thought people were out to get you. You bring it on yourself, you sad sack of shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Eagan469 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 But the thing is I never did it. I would never thin to do that. I have never had problems with him at all. This is just a ploy to get me banned. This guy is pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I didn't give a shit about that board. And all this you are saying in complete bullshit. What reason would I have for doing that? I think it might be because MrZsasz sent me a PM about a week ago saying he agreed with me on the Kobe case and wanted me to talk to him about it on AIM, I ignored the PM. Sounds like somebody got thier feelings hurt and is trying to pay me back. Why would ANYONE want to talk to YOU on AIM about ANYTHING? That alone is enough proof for me. Only the dumbest motherfucker alive would want to do that. Thus, Johnson would be the only person who would want to chat with Johnson over AIM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I would never thin to do that. Would you, "FAT", to do that? *dodges tomatos* That was pretty funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Then show me where I admitted it because I don't ever remember that happening at all. And this is a ploy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Thus, Johnson would be the only person who would want to chat with Johnson over AIM. And then a black hole would open and devour us with stupidity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Then show me where I admitted it because I don't ever remember that happening at all. And this is a ploy. Anyone who was a member of the OAOAST at the time can attest to this. I started a thread about it. Zack, SP, BPP, they should all remember it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rising up out of the back seat-nuh 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I didn't give a shit about that board. And all this you are saying in complete bullshit. What reason would I have for doing that? I think it might be because MrZsasz sent me a PM about a week ago saying he agreed with me on the Kobe case and wanted me to talk to him about it on AIM, I ignored the PM. Sounds like somebody got thier feelings hurt and is trying to pay me back. Why would ANYONE want to talk to YOU on AIM about ANYTHING? That alone is enough proof for me. Only the dumbest motherfucker alive would want to do that. Thus, Johnson would be the only person who would want to chat with Johnson over AIM. All well and good, but Zsasz already admitted to doing that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Old Me Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I would never thin to do that. Would you, "FAT", to do that? *dodges tomatos* That was pretty funny. Thank you, Thank you. I'm here 4 nights a week! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SP-1 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I remember it happening. But, naturally, that's pretty much all I can attest to is that PM's were sent, shite got stirred, etc. I can't take a stab at anything specific since I was only watching from afar, making random contributions to run damage control downstairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 30, 2003 I didn't give a shit about that board. And all this you are saying in complete bullshit. What reason would I have for doing that? I think it might be because MrZsasz sent me a PM about a week ago saying he agreed with me on the Kobe case and wanted me to talk to him about it on AIM, I ignored the PM. Sounds like somebody got thier feelings hurt and is trying to pay me back. Why would ANYONE want to talk to YOU on AIM about ANYTHING? That alone is enough proof for me. Only the dumbest motherfucker alive would want to do that. Thus, Johnson would be the only person who would want to chat with Johnson over AIM. All well and good, but Zsasz already admitted to doing that... Yes, and if that doesn't convince I'm being entirely truthful... what will? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Retro Rob Report post Posted July 30, 2003 The man makes a point. He admits to lowering himself to Johnson's level. I would give him the benefit of the doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Then show me where I admitted it because I don't ever remember that happening at all. And this is a ploy. Anyone who was a member of the OAOAST at the time can attest to this. I started a thread about it. Zack, SP, BPP, they should all remember it. Didn't you get kicked out over that incident as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheZsaszHorsemen Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Then show me where I admitted it because I don't ever remember that happening at all. And this is a ploy. Anyone who was a member of the OAOAST at the time can attest to this. I started a thread about it. Zack, SP, BPP, they should all remember it. Didn't you get kicked out over that incident as well? I was kicked out because I didn't think Kotz should be an OAOAST mod so quickly after joining. I argued with Zack over PM, and he kicked me out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Angle-plex Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Then show me where I admitted it because I don't ever remember that happening at all. And this is a ploy. Anyone who was a member of the OAOAST at the time can attest to this. I started a thread about it. Zack, SP, BPP, they should all remember it. Didn't you get kicked out over that incident as well? I was kicked out because I didn't think Kotz should be an OAOAST mod so quickly after joining. I argued with Zack over PM, and he kicked me out. Ah. OAOAST Drama. I miss it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Grand Pubah of 1620 Report post Posted July 30, 2003 Then show me where I admitted it because I don't ever remember that happening at all. And this is a ploy. Anyone who was a member of the OAOAST at the time can attest to this. I started a thread about it. Zack, SP, BPP, they should all remember it. Didn't you get kicked out over that incident as well? I was kicked out because I didn't think Kotz should be an OAOAST mod so quickly after joining. I argued with Zack over PM, and he kicked me out. Now that sheds a new light on things... I may not be the most liked person around here, but I do enjoy myself. And I had no reason to do what I am being accused of. Plus it's quite funny that this is only coming up now. Also, I never start shit with anybody, yet people are constantly starting shit with me. And I will defend myself. How does that make me the bad guy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites