Guest CanadianChick Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 It's shit like this that gives the IWC a bad name.
Guest Eagan469 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 It's shit like this that gives the IWC a bad name. the what?
Guest CanadianChick Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 IWC: Internet Wrestling Community.
Guest Loss4Words Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 "Because Kevin Nash is a human being who has never done anything more terrible than be a pretty bad wrestler and play politics at his job." He helped bankrupt a multi-million dollar company that was part of the largest media conglomerate in the world by playing politics to ensure his spot was kept and his enemies were humiliated on national television. By doing this, he ended up narrowing the opportunity of advancement and pay for hundreds of would-be wrestlers who have less options on where to work. I'm sure the indy guys are forever indebtted to him for killing WCW and they're probably very sad to hear that he fainted. "To wish him serious health problems because of those factors is classless and ignorant." I didn't wish it. I just wasn't upset that it happened. "Its like being happy some guy you don't like at work got colon cancer." No, it's not. And that's subjective anyway. If your wife has an affair with your best friend, are you really going to tell me you're going to feel bad to find out that they were together and fainted at a party? "It equates only in that making fun of an injury indicates that because you aren't a fan of someone, that they somehow deserve said injury." It's not a moral issue. At least I don't see how it is. When bad things happen to bad people, it doesn't bother me. Sue me. "But as some people might actually be fans of that wrestler, they reverse the situation's perspective and hope that you'll notice that you're being rather fucking silly." Yeah, so if Benoit faints out of nowhere, Kevin Sullivan has a right to laugh. Am I being fair now? "It's not wrong to like Chris Benoit's work more than Kevin Nash's. It is wrong to make value judgments on their character based on that." It's not based on that. I don't remember anyone insulting Yokozuna when he died just because they didn't like his work. "It's like nominating Babe Ruth for sainthood because he could hit a lot of dingers. Fact is, you can't really like either of these people more than the other based on any kind of information other than what you ascribe to them." Point taken, but the information is there. "Because from wishing injury on a person its only a short hop to being really glad he's dead." No, it's not. And I never wished any injury. "Why you would bring bias into this in the first place, I don't know. " Oh come on. So you're saying it's wrong to be more distraught if your mother passes away than it is if your worst enemy does? Everything is subjective except what actually happens.
Guest Goodear Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 Whatever you say- I still think it's funny What's really funny is that fat ass William Regal is still sitting at home with some sort of intestinal parasite that made his belly swell... EVEN MORE. HAHAHAHA! I bet that stewardess he pissed on is enjoying the KARMA in Buckets! See how fucking STUPID you sound?
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 I hope it isn't serious. Oh and saying shit like "Nash plays politics and can't work so I'm glad he fainted" is immature, sad and fucking pathetic. Especially considering it is based on internet rumours.
Guest Dangerous A Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 What's really funny is that fat ass William Regal is still sitting at home with some sort of intestinal parasite that made his belly swell... EVEN MORE. HAHAHAHA! I bet that stewardess he pissed on is enjoying the KARMA in Buckets! See how fucking STUPID you sound? Doh!! Was Regal pissing on a stewardess on a random tour, or was that on the plane ride from Hell?
Guest bob_barron Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 What's really funny is that fat ass William Regal is still sitting at home with some sort of intestinal parasite Nope- that's not what Regal had. Try again. See how fucking STUPID you sound?
The Dames Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 It's shit like this that gives the IWC a bad name. Agreed. DA is also right. I doubt that most people here truly wish death on a wrestler just for playing politics. Those that do have some serious problems. The way I see the Nash quad tearing incident is this. I can see the comical value in the irony of it, as Nash came back from an injury only to be injured again by simply walking. However, to see him clutching his leg and screaming in pain is NOT a valid reason alone to laugh hysterically. That's just cruel. Think about this... If you saw a stranger in the street and all of a sudden, this person fell and began screaming in pain, how would you feel towards the person who's looking on and dying of laughter? Dames
Guest Eagan469 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 What's really funny is that fat ass William Regal is still sitting at home with some sort of intestinal parasite that made his belly swell... EVEN MORE. HAHAHAHA! I bet that stewardess he pissed on is enjoying the KARMA in Buckets! See how fucking STUPID you sound? Doh!! Was Regal pissing on a stewardess on a random tour, or was that on the plane ride from Hell? pissing on stewardess = 1998 Plane Ride From Hell = 2002
Guest bob_barron Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 What's really funny is that fat ass William Regal is still sitting at home with some sort of intestinal parasite that made his belly swell... EVEN MORE. HAHAHAHA! I bet that stewardess he pissed on is enjoying the KARMA in Buckets! See how fucking STUPID you sound? Doh!! Was Regal pissing on a stewardess on a random tour, or was that on the plane ride from Hell? Regal pissed on the stewardness in late 97-98- this is when he was a total junkie.
Guest Loss4Words Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 "Serious" doesn't mean sidelined for nine months and unable to wrestle. "Serious" means unable to use your bladder for the rest of your life, loss of a limb or loss of a body function. If Nash tears his quad and he can have surgery and rehab and be fine, it's not like something is permanently happening to him.
Guest bob_barron Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 Depends on how they get hurt- it could be funny. I've given myself a concussion and threw out my back- and people were laughing when both incidents happened. You know why? Because they were funny. Therefore- I didn't mind it one bit.
Guest Ripper Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 "Because Kevin Nash is a human being who has never done anything more terrible than be a pretty bad wrestler and play politics at his job." He helped bankrupt a multi-million dollar company that was part of the largest media conglomerate in the world by playing politics to ensure his spot was kept and his enemies were humiliated on national television. By doing this, he ended up narrowing the opportunity of advancement and pay for hundreds of would-be wrestlers who have less options on where to work. I'm sure the indy guys are forever indebtted to him for killing WCW and they're probably very sad to hear that he fainted. "To wish him serious health problems because of those factors is classless and ignorant." I didn't wish it. I just wasn't upset that it happened. "Its like being happy some guy you don't like at work got colon cancer." No, it's not. And that's subjective anyway. If your wife has an affair with your best friend, are you really going to tell me you're going to feel bad to find out that they were together and fainted at a party? "It equates only in that making fun of an injury indicates that because you aren't a fan of someone, that they somehow deserve said injury." It's not a moral issue. At least I don't see how it is. When bad things happen to bad people, it doesn't bother me. Sue me. "But as some people might actually be fans of that wrestler, they reverse the situation's perspective and hope that you'll notice that you're being rather fucking silly." Yeah, so if Benoit faints out of nowhere, Kevin Sullivan has a right to laugh. Am I being fair now? "It's not wrong to like Chris Benoit's work more than Kevin Nash's. It is wrong to make value judgments on their character based on that." It's not based on that. I don't remember anyone insulting Yokozuna when he died just because they didn't like his work. "It's like nominating Babe Ruth for sainthood because he could hit a lot of dingers. Fact is, you can't really like either of these people more than the other based on any kind of information other than what you ascribe to them." Point taken, but the information is there. "Because from wishing injury on a person its only a short hop to being really glad he's dead." No, it's not. And I never wished any injury. "Why you would bring bias into this in the first place, I don't know. " Oh come on. So you're saying it's wrong to be more distraught if your mother passes away than it is if your worst enemy does? Everything is subjective except what actually happens. I can tell you that Time Warner had no interest in having a wrestling company and THATS why WCW went out of business. About 11 different guys were making over a million dollars each. About 40 were making over 500, shit, guys like Lanny Poffo who never even worked for the company was making 350,000 a year. Nash booking WTF ever didn't kill WCW. Dumb business moves killed them and trying to say he did is just simply ignoring all of the facts about the company as a whole.
Guest Ripper Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 "Serious" doesn't mean sidelined for nine months and unable to wrestle. "Serious" means unable to use your bladder for the rest of your life, loss of a limb or loss of a body function. If Nash tears his quad and he can have surgery and rehab and be fine, it's not like something is permanently happening to him. Something like that will never be the same. He won't be able to walk correctly when he is older. Yes, he can get back in the ring NOW, but it will have serious reprecussions down the road. It is serious.
Guest netslob Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 If you saw a stranger in the street and all of a sudden, this person fell and began screaming in pain, how would you feel towards the person who's looking on and dying of laughter? i'd probably would be too busy laughing my own ass off to notice.
The Dames Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 Would you say that you were able to find the comical value of your injuries the moment they occured or when you looked back on them? I've been in situations where I was hurt and people laughed...and while I didn't say anything, I was upset that they found it funny. Dames
Guest bob_barron Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 The moment they occured. I was laughing along with everyone else even though my head was throbbing. When I found out I had a concussion- I found it even funnier. I just have a sense of humour and find a lot of things to be very funny. That's why I can laugh and don't mind other people laughing when I get hurt.
Guest Nevermortal Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 And Nash tearing his quad was funny- I still watch the video from time to time. I do too.
Guest CanadianChick Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 "Serious" doesn't mean sidelined for nine months and unable to wrestle. "Serious" means unable to use your bladder for the rest of your life, loss of a limb or loss of a body function. If Nash tears his quad and he can have surgery and rehab and be fine, it's not like something is permanently happening to him. Question: Would you consider the neck injuries Angle, Benoit, Edge, Austin, Rhyno, Lita, Scotty 2 Hotty, ect. have had serious? Just a question.
Guest TheGame2705 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 "Serious" doesn't mean sidelined for nine months and unable to wrestle. "Serious" means unable to use your bladder for the rest of your life, loss of a limb or loss of a body function. If Nash tears his quad and he can have surgery and rehab and be fine, it's not like something is permanently happening to him. When I think of serious I also think of something that requires surgery. I'm sure Nash was thinking in his head, "AHHHH!!! MY QUAD!!! BUT IT'S OK LAUGH AT ME BECAUSE WITH A LITTLE AHHH!!!! REHAB AND SURGERY IT'LL BE FINE"
Guest webmasterofwrestlegame Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 I find it ironic that all of these 'don't laugh and make jokes when someone gets injured' posters haven't said ANYTHING in the 'HHH injured again' thread when people started making jokes. Indeed, some of them even joined in with the jokes.
Guest Eagan469 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 Question: Would you consider the neck injuries Angle, Benoit, Edge, Austin, Rhyno, Lita, Scotty 2 Hotty, ect. have had serious? Just a question. yes...because they were potentially career/life-threatening It's just a muscle in his leg. Big whoop.
The Dames Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 I find it ironic that all of these 'don't laugh and make jokes when someone gets injured' posters haven't said ANYTHING in the 'HHH injured again' thread when people started making jokes. Indeed, some of them even joined in with the jokes. I know I didn't join in on that. There is a difference between a groin pull and someone fainting, however. A groin pull isn't nearly as serious. Dames
The Dames Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 It's just a muscle in his leg. Big whoop. That injury to Nash WAS career threatening. Dames
Guest CanadianChick Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 I find it ironic that all of these 'don't laugh and make jokes when someone gets injured' posters haven't said ANYTHING in the 'HHH injured again' thread when people started making jokes. Indeed, some of them even joined in with the jokes. I did. I always say something...anyone can be a witness for that. Everybody gets annoyed with me when I do it, but too bad for them! yes...because they were potentially career/life-threatening It's just a muscle in his leg. Big whoop. But the majority of them were back (or are going to be back) in a year. And people could retire from a torn quad.
Guest BionicRedneck Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 It's just a muscle in his leg. Big whoop. Yup, and that was career threatening to Nash.
Guest Loss4Words Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 However had WCW continued to turn $55 million profit annually like they did in 1998, all of those things wouldn't have mattered. The reason TBS/Time Warner had no interest in WCW was because of declining profit, and the reason the profit sank was because the product sucked, and the reason the product sucked was because of Nash and many others. It's a chain reaction.
Guest Ripper Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 Question: Would you consider the neck injuries Angle, Benoit, Edge, Austin, Rhyno, Lita, Scotty 2 Hotty, ect. have had serious? Just a question. yes...because they were potentially career/life-threatening It's just a muscle in his leg. Big whoop. Never did anything remotely athletic in your life, have you?
Guest Eagan469 Posted August 1, 2003 Report Posted August 1, 2003 Never did anything remotely athletic in your life, have you? I played football in high-school for 4 years. Started my senior year at left-guard, thank you.
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