Guest drdrainoscott Report post Posted August 19, 2003 Does anybody have any copies of OVW that they would be willing to sell? I'm looking for anything after March 2002. I bought a few shows and now I'm hooked. Scott Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hockeytown9321 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 I have september 2002, and February, March and April of this year, and should have May June and July soon. e-mail at [email protected] if you're interested Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Does anybody have any copies of OVW that they would be willing to sell? I'm looking for anything after March 2002. I bought a few shows and now I'm hooked. Scott Your hooked on OVW?........I'm so so very sorry to hear that..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest drdrainoscott Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 20, 2003 OVW sux Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 OVW sux For you to say that shows a lot about your wrestling knowledge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hockeytown9321 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 OVW is by far the best booked wrestling promotion in the world today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest drdrainoscott Report post Posted August 20, 2003 It is pretty astonishing how much better booked OVW is then WWE is. I was making this argument with my brother the other day. WWE was handed the biggest feud of all time in the Invasion, and the feud lasted exactly six months. OVW, on the otherhand, took four unknown, green wrestlers, and put on a feud that lasted from December 2001 to August 2003. I think it is amazing that in the wrestling age of crash TV and sports entertainment, that a feud can stay meaningful and interesting for almost two years. Seriously, if you want to see some well booked wrestling, start with the December 2001 or January 2002 tape and just enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hockeytown9321 Report post Posted August 20, 2003 Yeah actually try to have their shows make sense. What a novel concept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted August 21, 2003 I have seen minimal OVW, but must say, if everyone complains about how vanilla all the OVW guys are that come up to the Main roster, than how is OVW better than WWE when everyone is trained the same way? Not my arguement, cause right now ANYTHING is better than WWE, but it's something brought up a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 I saw an OVW DVD at Suncoast, but was a little hesitant to get it because of the cost. Dunno if it's any good or not--hoped some people could shed some light on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fökai 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 I have seen minimal OVW, but must say, if everyone complains about how vanilla all the OVW guys are that come up to the Main roster, than how is OVW better than WWE when everyone is trained the same way? Your answer? OVW is by far the best booked wrestling promotion in the world today. The guys down there aren't so "vanilla" and indistinguishable. It's when they make their transition to the WWE, when they have to conform to what Vince demands - yet most of the WWE folder will bitch that Orlando Jordan and Doug Basham are far too boring in a WWE ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TonyJaymzV1 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Goto wrestling gold and get the 4 pack dvd set. It's only 60 bucks(most of these dvds are 20 bucks a pop) and its worth it, especially Wrestling's Future Stars which proves that Randy Orton can wrestle pretty good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 I have seen minimal OVW, but must say, if everyone complains about how vanilla all the OVW guys are that come up to the Main roster, than how is OVW better than WWE when everyone is trained the same way? Your answer? OVW is by far the best booked wrestling promotion in the world today. The guys down there aren't so "vanilla" and indistinguishable. It's when they make their transition to the WWE, when they have to conform to what Vince demands - yet most of the WWE folder will bitch that Orlando Jordan and Doug Basham are far too boring in a WWE ring. "Best booked" sounds like it isn't too related to the wrestlers' skill. It sounds like it would just mean things actually make sense and are enjoyable to watch other than just for wrestling's sake. And I know that in OVW most of these guys had personas of their own--Leviathan, Prototype, Damaja, Rico Constantino, etc. However, when they show up in WWE they have very vanilla personalities... And usually they have basic and very boring move sets, or are sloppy. That's where the bitching comes from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Real Nosferatu Report post Posted August 21, 2003 I've seen Orlando Jordan before his WWE days and he isn't that bad. WWE is just making him look like a weak jobber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hockeytown9321 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 And I know that in OVW most of these guys had personas of their own--Leviathan, Prototype, Damaja, Rico Constantino, etc. However, when they show up in WWE they have very vanilla personalities... And usually they have basic and very boring move sets, or are sloppy. That's where the bitching comes from. Are OVW guys flashy like you'd see in something like Toryumon? No, but they are better overall fundamental wrestlers. If you'd watch OVW, you'd realize that it is WWE that screws up their characters. There's like one guy on the writing team that even bothers to watch OVW so its no surprise. Its like if the Yankees had a prospect they brought up without ever seeing him play. The guy might be an awesome pitcher, but they have him play right field. There were people in the crowd actually crying at the end of the loser leaves OVW match between Damaja and Doug Basham a few weeks ago. You have to be over as a personality to make fans care that much, its not just booking. Name me one other promotion that can produce that kind of emotion. As far as guys being sloppy, yeah because WWE rushes them up. Rene Dupre should be nowhere near the WWF for at least another year. Guys like Jindrak are never going to get it, no matter what James E. does. As for boring movesets, everybody's entitled to their own opinion on that. My opinion is that a good wrestler doesn't have to rely on highspots to make their match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Rico is an excellent wrestler, and he showed that in OVW. WWE has completely missed the boat with him. No one is saying that the actual wrestling in OVW is better than WWE. WWE has a ton of great wrestlers. But it's about more than just that. Matches have to mean something - that's what pro wrestling is all about, not just throwing something out there. Wrestling is totally about booking. Put Benoit and Guerrero out there and they'll have a great match. Put them out there when they're fighting for a reason that everyone cares about, and their match is that much better, and they will draw $$$. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 21, 2003 OVW sux For you to say that shows a lot about your wrestling knowledge. look at the workrate......so there shows your knowledge of wrestling. If you like restholds and boring ass shit then OVW is for you..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TonyJaymzV1 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 OVW has great storylines, that make sense and actually have continunity. Also, 9 times out of 10, the wrestlers wrestle far better and more well versed in OVW than WWE. Ever see Rany Orotn pull of hiss full nelson slam, wheelbarrow suplex and the like? What about Rico's sudden impact? Or Levaithan's badass moves that are different than generic spinebuster. And the WWE gives the call up to who they want: Cornette never wanted Grenier to get called up, but he does, then we have Mr. Wrestling Nick Dinsmore, a great wrestler, who only gets called up as Doink The Clown. OVW is the anti-ROH, in a good way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Askewniverse Report post Posted August 21, 2003 (edited) OVW isn't as bad as some people might think. It's a good way to check out the wrestlers before they get called up. Most OVW wrestlers/alumni shouldn't be judged by just their WWE work, since their OVW work can be significantly different. In addition to "dumbing down movesets," the WWE also has a habit of ignoring OVW storylines when they call up wrestlers (ex: Damaja and Doug Basham). Cornette, much to his credit, has been able to come up with reasonable and logical storylines when something like that occurs. The OVW site is a good place to buy OVW videos. The prices aren't that bad and you know that it's legit. Edited August 22, 2003 by Askewniverse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Keep in mind I am not judging the wrestlers by their WWE work. I just despise the WWE style, which for all intensive purposes is what they work in OVW. So in MY OPINION.....OVW isn't very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2003 Keep in mind I am not judging the wrestlers by their WWE work. I just despise the WWE style, which for all intensive purposes is what they work in OVW. So in MY OPINION.....OVW isn't very good. Have you actually seen any OVW? The OVW I've seen is very good. Cornette is a good booker and gets the most of his guys. It sounds like you're just whining cause WWE stlye is what Cornette is TOLD to instill down there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted August 22, 2003 look at the workrate......so there shows your knowledge of wrestling. If you like restholds and boring ass shit then OVW is for you..... So which is it? Here you are saying that all it is restholds and "boring shit." Later in another post, you say that all they do is implement the WWE style in OVW. Last time I checked, no matter what management is saying, there haven't been restholds all over the place in WWE. Is it "boring shit" if guys aren't doing consistent highspots and getting thrown on their heads all match? You thinking that restholds are boring is one of the key reasons why wrestling has a big problem right now. People think that if it's not non-stop spots, then it's not good wrestling. Watch Flair and Steamboat work an armbar for 10 minutes, and tell me that it's "boring shit." Were you a fan in the 80's? If not, when did you start watching wrestling, or do you think wrestling started with ECW? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 22, 2003 Keep in mind I am not judging the wrestlers by their WWE work. I just despise the WWE style, which for all intensive purposes is what they work in OVW. So in MY OPINION.....OVW isn't very good. Have you actually seen any OVW? The OVW I've seen is very good. Cornette is a good booker and gets the most of his guys. It sounds like you're just whining cause WWE stlye is what Cornette is TOLD to instill down there Yea, I've seen OVW before plenty of times. I don't blame Cornette for implementing the style that he is forced to do. I like Cornette. If it wasn't for him OVW would be 10 times worse than it is now. I am not whining about them having to use this style. I just don't like it. If you do then that's your thing, but it's not for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 22, 2003 look at the workrate......so there shows your knowledge of wrestling. If you like restholds and boring ass shit then OVW is for you..... So which is it? Here you are saying that all it is restholds and "boring shit." Later in another post, you say that all they do is implement the WWE style in OVW. Last time I checked, no matter what management is saying, there haven't been restholds all over the place in WWE. Is it "boring shit" if guys aren't doing consistent highspots and getting thrown on their heads all match? You thinking that restholds are boring is one of the key reasons why wrestling has a big problem right now. People think that if it's not non-stop spots, then it's not good wrestling. Watch Flair and Steamboat work an armbar for 10 minutes, and tell me that it's "boring shit." Were you a fan in the 80's? If not, when did you start watching wrestling, or do you think wrestling started with ECW? First off, I am sure I have been watching this sport longer than your ass. Second comparing guys in OVW to Flair/Steamboat obviously shows your intelligence level. I don't mind, "rest holds" when done correctly they are an asset to the match. Highspots are the same way. I was a fan in the 80's and wrestling definately did not start with ECW, so next time you wanna respond to one of my posts use some intelligence.....fucktard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2003 Coming from someone who in a thread where someone asked where to buy OVW and you responded- OVW Sux And you're the same person who called someone stupid but spelled it wrong- you're REALLY one to talk about being intelligent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2003 Second comparing guys in OVW to Flair/Steamboat obviously shows your intelligence level He wasn't comparing Steamboat v. Flair to OVW now was he? He was talking about how matches can be great without non stop spots. OVW is a federation that doesn't rely on insane spots or holy shit moments- They have logical well booked storylines with matches that can get great crowd heat without resorting to tables breaking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 22, 2003 Second comparing guys in OVW to Flair/Steamboat obviously shows your intelligence level He wasn't comparing Steamboat v. Flair to OVW now was he? He was talking about how matches can be great without non stop spots. OVW is a federation that doesn't rely on insane spots or holy shit moments- They have logical well booked storylines with matches that can get great crowd heat without resorting to tables breaking. well, let him speak for himself, this is getting retarded....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TDinDC1112 Report post Posted August 22, 2003 First off, I am sure I have been watching this sport longer than your ass. Second comparing guys in OVW to Flair/Steamboat obviously shows your intelligence level. I don't mind, "rest holds" when done correctly they are an asset to the match. Highspots are the same way. I was a fan in the 80's and wrestling definately did not start with ECW, so next time you wanna respond to one of my posts use some intelligence.....fucktard 1. My Ass has never had the pleasure of watching a professional wrestling match. I'm sure it would enjoy it though. 2. Bob responded for me in that I never compared the wrestlers in OVW to Flair and Steamboat. 3. I find it too mentally taxing to try to talk logically about something with a person who would call someone a "fucktard" if that's how you even spell it - as I know you have issues with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dynamite Kido Report post Posted August 22, 2003 wow, that's funny......have fun watching all your OVW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
