The One and Only Angel Season 5 Thread

[LaParkaYourCar 0]

I might have missed it, but did anyone know that yesterday was Joss Whedon's birthday?

[Guest Brian]

I saw it. Big Four-Oh.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

The board is similar to this one, how is it hard?? All the places you need to know is up in the top left corner - if you want the messy board, you go to the messy board; if you want chatty rooms, you go to chatty rooms. I'm in a chatty room right now and there's 10 others in it.

[Guest Brian]

RRR, where's you're attempt to summarize the series in twelve or fewer episodes?

[Guest Brian]

Anybody want to suggest a title for the first script? I was thinking "A Brave New World", since it's not just a minor line but also harkens back to Connor's arrival in LA from Quor'toth.

 

Opening scene, epsidoe 2.

 

Scene 1:

 

<The street is grimy. Cars are overturned. Buildings are smashed, glass on the street. The sun is setting. Camera fades up from the foot level. A woman rushes by. A winged creature swoops down on her, with red eyes. She falls to the ground, and the winged creature lands. Suddenly Connor lands next to the monster, wielding a sword. He takes a swing, but the creature blocks his arm it with his wing. Connor drops the sword and catches it with the other hand. He tries an uppercut but the creature takes flight. Connor jumps and grabs it leg, whipping it down hard. He drops the sword into its chest.>

 

Young woman: <crying> What happened? What’s going on?

 

Connor: Death. And pain. That’s all there is left in this place.

 

Young Woman: You saved me from that monster.

 

Connor: It’s my job.

 

<Connor begins to turn away, as a pack of hell beasts emerge and pounce on the woman. Connor turns back, sighs, and lifts his sword. Fade to intro.>

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

It's too hard. I can't compromise anything. If we could do 25 episodes - 5 per season with allowance for shifting unused slots - then it's doable. But you're asking for half that, and its impossible.

[AnonymousBroccoli 0]

Brian, from watching Home last night, I noticed that Connor seemed to have "sisters" given to him. One younger, and one older. I don't know if you want to do anything with that.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

We need a strong female character, right? Maybe one of the sisters could go all Slayer.

[Guest Brian]

I want to stick with the "Connor's lost his family" thing, and burden him with these new repsonisbilities. Then when he gets to that point where he's accepted his role and it looks like there's some stability, things get out of hand and his memories really start getting worse, then he snaps. But that's second season stuff.

[Guest Brian]

Scene 2:

 

<Camera enters the sewer through a pipe, focusing on two images. The sound of punches is heard in the background. Camera turns around the corner, revealing that Connor and Kent are sparring. Connor delivers a series of lightning quick blows, ending by knocking Kent into a wall.>

 

Kent: You’re stronger than I was led to believe.

 

Connor: It doesn’t help.

 

<Kent puts down his pads.>

 

Kent: It can’t hurt.

 

Connor: And yet, people are still dying out there.

 

Kent: People always die. In the risk that we take by going outside, by picking up this sword, by living everyday.

 

Connor: There’s nothing I can do about it. I watched a woman die in front of me after I saved her. And that’s all I’ll ever see. I’ll save them, and they’ll die later.

 

Kent: It’s not hopeless, though. You can’t change things by sitting back and letting it play out; you need to risk yourself. You need to give it all up to win sometimes. You need to fight like there’s no tomorrow. Because sometimes there’s not.

 

Connor: Like today. Or yesterday. Nothing changes. I kill a few, and they keep coming. For every one, there’s a hundred more. So what am I fighting for?

 

Kent: For yourself. And don’t forget it.

 

<Fade out of scene. Camera is blurry, then focuses on a sign titled “Wolfram & Hart”. Camera turns to Connor and Kent.>

 

Connor: This is the source. This is where we last fought together. This is where the evil has come from.

 

<Camera reveals a battered down building, with debris scattered.>

 

Kent: They didn’t leave anything. They no longer have to conceal what they do.

 

Connor: I was here when they destroyed this place.

 

Kent: This was their base of operations, wasn’t it? Why would they get rid of it?

 

Connor: Because they don’t need it anymore.

 

<Connor bends down. He picks up a handful of gravel.>

 

Connor: I can still smell him.

 

<Connor throws the debris and begins to walk away.>

 

Kent: You can’t live in the past forever.

 

Connor: <Under his breath> I try not to.

[Mole 0]

That's not what I mean. I am talking about FE and Jasmine. Their own schemes contradict each other. Jasmine can't have her peaceful world if ubies are overrunning it. She surely knows of the FE and what's it's doing. Same for FE knowing of her. Yet neither do anything to stop each other.

The thing is that Jasmine's plan was planned out from the beginning of time, while the First just decided out of the blue to fuck with Buffy.

 

And the timeline works out; I figured it out one time. If memory serves me correct, once Willow goes to LA, the stories connect. If you think about it, things happen quicker when Faith arrives than before hand.

[Anya 0]

FE had at least a year to plan. Even if it just started that year, it would have been interested in what Jasmine was doing.

 

 

weird item on ebay

 

 

"Nick Brandon" and "Emma Canfield"....

[Golgo 13 0]

Didn't get a clear look at the slain Anya in the series finale?

 

I liked that part of the auction the best.

[Mole 0]

FE had at least a year to plan. Even if it just started that year, it would have been interested in what Jasmine was doing.

 

 

weird item on ebay

 

 

"Nick Brandon" and "Emma Canfield"....

If you noticed, the First wasn't the smartest evil in the world.

 

The damn thing didn't even know how to open a seal.

 

But whatever anyone says about season 7, you'll spin it into something negative. Unless it is about Andrew, because he is sooo funny....

[Anya 0]

Andrew is sooooo funny.

[Anakin Flair 0]

Andrew sucked. I'll NEVER get the love for this guy.

[Tawren 0]

Andrew sucked. I'll NEVER get the love for this guy.

That's my opinion. Really, really, not funny.

[Ravenbomb 0]

The first was concentrating on Sunnydale when it wasn't having Bringers kill the potentials. And the Bringers were what its army consisted of at the time, so they couldn't exactly see Jasmine to get infected (if she would have had any affect on them at all anyways), and people would be easy to kill if they were all shiny and happy. So Jasmine's plan wouldn't really effect FE's plan in any significant negative way. And Sunnydale seemed relatively cut off for most of the season, so Jasmine might not have gotten to them through the media, and people weren't exactly flocking to go to SD, so it's entirely plausible that Jasmine's influence wouldn't have reached there. And since Jasmine's plan had apparently been so intricately weaved into the events of both shows, it's entirely possible that the FE's plan was forseen, and that they had a way to prevent it, had she not been exposed as a gross maggoty thing and had her head punched in by Conner. It's hard to say, since I'm still not sure how the timelines work out.

[fazzle 0]

Andrew sucked. I'll NEVER get the love for this guy.

That's my opinion. Really, really, not funny.

There isn't enough WORD in the world.

[Jingus 0]

I see Andrew a lot like I see Fat Bastard: a great concept, hilarious in small doses, but please for the love of God don't make him one of the main characters. But still, in a season as full of horrible dumb shit as 7 was, Andrew was one of the more minor problems you could complain about.

[Anya 0]

Andrew is the best thing to happen to Buffy since Anya.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

"The Slayer of the Vampyres" was fucking brilliant. And the Homestar Runner references own you. Andrew ruled it on Buffy. Angel? Not so much. Him riding on the motorcycle with Spike is money.

[LaParkaMarka 0]

He was supposed to be a different person on Angel. I thought he was brilliant on both shows. Zooming past the lesbos, the "We are as gods" bit, the constant geeky pop culture references. Good stuff.

[RavishingRickRudo 0]

He was a lil bitch on Angel and they should have fucking killed him off for what he did, that motherfucker.

[Anya 0]

This is cool......Lorne takes Angel to meet the Fell Brethren in Life of the Party.

[Guest Brian]

Next three scenes should all be done within an hour:

 

<Scene 3>

 

<Connor is walking down a suburban street, sword in hand. Kent follows behind with his crossbow, a bag over his shoulder. Kent is nervously looking around.>

 

Kent: The sun’s going down. We have to get underground soon.

 

Connor: We still have another half hour. Besides, some of them are feeding. The blood is in the air.

 

<Connor looks around. His ears twitch. He begins to run.>

 

Kent: Connor, wait!

 

<Inside a house. Furniture is turned upside down. Couch is ripped. Three people are sitting, crouched into the ground. A young girl, fifteen, is crying. Two monsters are talking to each other. One has scales and a spiked tail. The smaller monster also has scales but has gills.>

 

Bigger monster: I like this place. Food all over; defenseless. <Heads over to girl, looks her over and gives a lick.> And virgin blood for desert. <Girl breaks down again.> Don’t worry honey, you’ll get to outlive your parents. And it won’t take too long.

 

<Door flies out and Connor is standing in the opening.>

 

Connor: Am I interrupting something? I saw the door was closed, and just figured I should let myself in.

 

<The smaller monster attacks Connor. Connor blocks a punch and delivers a series of punches to its stomach, followed by a roundhouse kick, knocking him backwards.>

 

Smaller monster, to larger monster: A little help.

 

<The larger monster wipes blood from his teeth. He stands to his feet, the mother and father both slain. He whips his tail out, hooking Connor’s leg and throwing him into the wall.>

 

Smaller monster: You started without me.

 

Bigger monster: He’s getting up.

 

<Smaller monster pounces on Connor, mounting him. His mouth opens wide, revealing a second set of teeth. Connor punches him once but the monster doesn’t flinch.>

 

Bigger monster: This doesn’t look good for you.

 

<Connor throws a left. The smaller monster smiles and bends down to take bite. Connor headbutts the monster in the mouth. The smaller monster raises its head and spits out a tooth.>

 

Bigger monster: You going to let that human do that to you.

 

<The smaller monster tries a right, but Connor blocks it. Connor hooks his arm. The smaller monster tries a left, but that gets caught and hooked. Connor delivers a series of headbutts while rising to his feet. Connor releases both arms and drives his knee into the monsters head, denting the skull and dropping it to the ground. Connor turns and sees that the other monster has left. He picks up his sword. Kent comes running through the door.>

 

Kent: What did I miss?

 

<Connor brushes by him and heads straight to the motorcycle. He grabs the bag and looks through it. He grabs a double-headed axe.>

 

Kent: It’s getting dark, and they’ll have the numbers.

 

Connor: I’m not going to let this one die.

 

Kent: Let who die?

 

Connor: The girl. I should have saved her. I’m going to save her.

 

<Connor heads to the manhole. He lifts up the cover.>

 

Connor: Head back to cover. I’ll take care of this.

 

Kent: You’re being rash and unreasonable. He’s heading straight to a nest, and you don’t have the firepower.

 

Connor: I’m tired of watching people die.

 

Kent: Connor, people die. It’s natural, and it happens.

 

Connor: And all this, does all this just naturally happen. I don’t fight, people die. I fight, people die. Well, I’m already tired of it all. I’m not going to let it happen again.

 

<Connor drops down the manhole. Kent heads over to the manhole, gathers his things, and starts the cycle.>

[Mole 0]

I'm a little annoyed right now.

 

I lent my Buffy season 2 to this kid Dustin. I decided to drop out of summer session at school, so I went to get it back from him and the fucker went to Texas.

 

Plus I can't find the Angel VCD I bought on eBay. Grrr, I am in the mood to watch Angelus fuck with Buffy right now.

[Jericholic82 0]

storyteller is my fan season 7 episode, and it calls for a buffy quote od the day

 

Andrew is in the bathroom on the toilet filming himself talking

 

Anya: What are you doing in here for so long? (or somethin like that)

Andrew: I am enlightining and entertaining.

Anya: Can't you just masturbate like the rest of us?

 

 

 

anyways I was watching some season 1 eps on fx and its weird to see how far the characters came and the chnages on the show. s1 is far more lighthearted and fun than s7.

 

one question, was willow always gay, because in s1 she clearly is in love with xander and later years dates oz. is she bi or was she lying to herself the whole time until she met tara.

 

not that I hated the character being gay, cuz I thought it was ingenious. and the fact that all the buff fans bought that and learned to love tara too is great and shows that sometimes tv shows can echo real life and can bring us together and make us more understadning

 

man that was real cheesy

 

 

one more thing on angel

why does everybody hate cordelia so much? as far as her in s4, it wasn't so bad. Sure the year had almost as much swerves as a vince russo booked edition of nitro , but it was different. you never knew what was going to happen next.

 

btw what was the original plan if cc hadnt become pregnant in real life?

 

 

I saw cc on craig kilborn a couple of weeks ago and she was talking about her baby. Man I f I was on the show, I wouldve had to ask her if the baby was evil lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

and to wolfram&mole, you should know better than to lend something to a member of the rhodes family (only wrestling fans will get the joke)

[BlackFlagg 0]

one question, was willow always gay, because in s1 she clearly is in love with xander and later years dates oz. is she bi or was she lying to herself the whole time until she met tara.

The way I saw it at first was Willow and Tara were soul mates. It showed that true love had no bounds, that sex didn't matter....but then they went and made Willow a full blown lesbo which killed that, especially when they hooked her up with Kennedy, bleh.

[Mole 0]

one question, was willow always gay, because in s1 she clearly is in love with xander and later years dates oz.  is she bi or was she lying to herself the whole time until she met tara.

The way I saw it at first was Willow and Tara were soul mates. It showed that true love had no bounds, that sex didn't matter....but then they went and made Willow a full blown lesbo which killed that, especially when they hooked her up with Kennedy, bleh.

Joss and crew wanted to stress that Willow and Tara fell in love first, rather than saying that Willow turned gay.