Hhh/hogan

[Guest KOR420]

Hell Turn? I mean the smackdown spoiler indicate that the rock said Hogan should go for the title,wouldn't it just be right for the match at Backlash for Rock to interfere and Turn on Hogan

[Guest Shaved Bear]

makes sense, but the problem is that the Rock is still so over as a face that people are still gonna cheer for im and his heel turn is gonna look weak

[Guest buffybeast]

I don't think it will look weak going against Hogan.  Remember, people were booing Rock at WM against Hogan.  I think a heel turn would work for Rock and the fans would accept it, because the silly fans are cheering for Goblin right now.

[Guest Mik at Cornell]

I disagree Buffybeast. Right around Wrestlemania if they turned Rock that would have made sense, but he's gotten pretty much all his face heat back now and the boos of the Toronto crowd have all but been forgotten. I think a Rock heel turn wouldn't be a good idea at this point.

[Guest Ignatz Belzner]

He could always go Bret Hart-in-WCW  on Hogan...as in, he's been basically Hogan's smilin' good buddy since Wrestlemania, you could easily pull a double- or even triple-turn on Hogan.  

 

Firstly, if the HHH-Hogan match goes down, HHH beating Hogan clean won't happen because Hogan won't allow it, 'Taker is in no position to hold the title right now (I mean, why would he have it other than for HHH to win it off of him?) and there are exactly zero ways that HHH would job after just a month.  Sooo, the ending calls for an overbooked mess, and who better for that than the nWo.  Have Hulkamania run wild all over the other(s) and then, at the end, the nWo runs in, clobbers Hogan (duh) and then, just to be "bad-asses," they beat on 'Taker as well (which you could possibly use to turn 'Taker face again, seeing as how people refuse to boo the man) and then Rock runs in, beats up the nWo (why not, they beat him up a while back,) and seeimingly saves Hogan.  Hogan gets up, dusts himself off, and a smiling () Rock offers Hogan his hand.

 

Hogan goes to shake it (crowd = Happy) but then Rock gives his "mad face" (), whips Hogan into a Rock Bottom, then holds on for maybe another one or two.  I imagine three rolling Rock Bottoms on an unsuspecting face Hogan in front of a crowd which is likely ravenous for him would make rock the biggest.  heel.  ever.

[Guest RetroRob215]

It would make some sense.  Rock could cost Hogan the match and "severly injure" him.  Rock could say he did it because he saw that Hogan really was the bigger star in the WWF.  And now that Hogan is gone, Rock is the #1 star again.  Everyone boos, causing the Rock to revert back to his 1998 form.

[Guest Singular]

I like it.  I have been waiting for a turn from Hogan or Rock, and the way Ignatz described a turn sounds great.  

As long as Hogan is never Champion again it's all good.

[Guest Ignatz Belzner]

Hey, I forgot one last turn there.

 

In keeping with the horrendous overbooking going on in that match, hey, why not have HHH sit in the corner and watch (maybe laugh maniacally, that'd be a nice touch) as the nWo destroys Hogan.  I mean, he's the only ME face the nWo hasn't assaulted brutally, he's got the Kliq tie-in, and he sucks as a face, might as well make him an nWo heel.

 

However, that might be a bit much for one match, ya know?

[Guest goodhelmet]

I would prefer a Rock heel turn. The people have been ready to boo the Rock for over a year. At the last two Manias, the crowd had already turned on him. As for an NWO run-in, I don't see the point. I thought the whole point of the split was to keep the wrestlers from the two companies seperated. There's way too much overbooking in this thread.

[Guest Ignatz Belzner]

Hey, we are talking about the WWF.  Remember,

"Overbooking = BUYRATE!!!" - V. Russo

 

Really, it's horrendously overdone, but logical for the WWF right now, and it puts everyone involved right were they

a) should be based on crowd reaction

b) should be based on their character-acting strengths.

 

It could be drawn out over quite a while longer, which would be much better for character and angle development, but I personally am quite tired of HHH the face and the failed Undertaker heel turn.  And the Rock could do with a character refreshening, his face act is getting boring.  I mean, he's been face for, what, a year and a half now?  Two years?  More?

[Guest bcu1979]

A Rock heel turn at Backlash would make sense.  But doesn't Scorpion King open up a week before Backlash? I just cannot see the WWF turning Rock heel just after his $100 million dollar movie opens up in theatres.

 

I think a Triple H heel turn would be more likely. He has to know he's never going to be the number one face in the company as long as Rock and Austin are around.

 

Triple H could then reunite with the NWO on RAW and feud with Austin/Taker?/Kane while feuding with Rock and Hogan on Smackdown.

 

And once Triple H turns heel, we all know who'll be bouncing back to take up airtime and shreik a lot...

[Guest Mik at Cornell]

Eeew. Well in that case let's hope HHH never turns heel. I'd rather watch him suck the life out of every program as a face than watch him be decent as a heel and have Steph back on my TV.

[Guest Dangerous A]

"A Rock heel turn at Backlash would make sense.  But doesn't Scorpion King open up a week before Backlash? I just cannot see the WWF turning Rock heel just after his $100 million dollar movie opens up in theatres."

 

This is correct. The wwf has probrably learned from the Kurt Angle book debacle. The wwf is getting a production credit for Scorpion King and they are not going to risk the sucess of the movie by conditioning fans to hate the Rock. I could see a heel turn if the movie tanks or later down the line, but right now, better enjoy Rock playing Hogan's bitch. (read the SD spoilers)

 

"Eeew. Well in that case let's hope HHH never turns heel. I'd rather watch him suck the life out of every program as a face than watch him be decent as a heel and have Steph back on my TV."

 

Just because HHH turn heel doesn't mean we have to have Steph back. Why can't he just be a heel on his own. Last I checked he was pretty good at it.

[Guest mastermind]

I still don't think turning Rock heel NOW is a good move. I say if his movie bombs THEN turn him heel. He will have a legitimate reason to turn on the fans and the fans will have a legitimate reason to boo him. This was a big reason why Hogan's heel turn worked in 1996. Listen to his promo and how fans reacted. They had reason to boo him although some already were. Austin's heel turn didn't have a real reason for fans or even Austin to sell out the fans. The same with Goldberg. A bad guy act doesn't cut it anymore for certain people. Take into thought that Rock was a heel forced face by the fans. Turning Rock heel like you guys suggest will only make fans cheer him in a month's time maxiumum. Rock still has mileage as a face. I know he has been booed at the last two Manias, but he is up against two of the biggest draws in history. Turn Rock heel and when he faces people like Jericho or Benoit fans will cheer him.

 

This match has Triple H heel turn wirtten all over it. Especially with Kevin Nash's situation. Another thing to consider is where does Trips go when he loses the title? I think it would greatly improve RAW if Trips went to that "franchise".

[Guest Maurizio C... Version 2]

Mastermind's right here. Either Rock turn heel and keep his mouth shut or the moment he'll cut a promo he'll basically get cheered again.

[Guest thebear]

Bet Your Kicking Yourselves IN The ass now about bitching because Taker was getting the shot...

[Guest Maurizio C... Version 2]

personally, I'm cool with Hogan getting one last world title, if that's booked correctly. Who knows Hogan might be the revelation of the year. as for *booger red* getting a title match, his match with flair at WM was great, so maybe hhh can top that and carry his ass to a *** bout.

[Guest Some Guy]

I think if Rock turns heel on Hogan at Backlash a simple jealousy angle would work.  He could say he did everything for the people and they betrayed him at Mania and they forced him to turn on them.  It's simple and it's logical.

[Guest Human Fly]

Supposedly everyone's ready to boo Rock. But how long until they're ready to boo Hogan? Hogan's nostalgia trip won't last too long in my opinion. To have Rock turn heel to feud againt a flavor of the month like old-school Hogan would be a big mistake.

[Guest Maurizio C... Version 2]

Believe me, Hulk's getting horny with this Rock heel idea. Rock's the only guy willing to sell for Hogan and maybe job to him. You see, getting almost killed and getting friends with the man who tried to do it is great booking by Rock's mental standards since he can say he too wrestled Hogan.

[Guest gwf0704]

Actually a Rock heel turn would be good and the jealousy angle would work, but imagine:

 

Rock coming down to the ring during the HHH/Hogan match.

Rock interferes when it looks like HHH will smack Hogan with belt.

Hogan and Rock shake hands after Rock makes the save.

Rock pulls him close and Rock bottoms him.  Twice.

Rock standing over a fallen Hogan takes off his shirt to reveal:

NWO

Heat for Rock and a new leader for NWO that way NWO is in both RAW and SMACKDOWN, maybe adding one or two members for Rock's side.

 

A guy can dream!

[Guest Maurizio C... Version 2]

wow! so finally the lost remaining of wcw can be transformed into another short-lived wwf stable...

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Yeah, because this is the next logical step in the nWo storyline: they've already accelerated through the first "kick people out cause they arn't doing the job" stage, they've done the "add surprise new member" bit, and so now it's time for the nWo split. nWo RAW with red nWo shirts, and nWo Smackdown with metallic blue nWo shirts.

 

BTW, I do NOT want this to happen. And HHH turning nWo would be a lot better (and more sensible) than the Rock. Can you imagine heel Rock vs. face HHH at this point? Rock would eat him alive, and within a few weeks of "this ain't sing along with the champ!" the crowd would be eating out of his hand. The only way a Rock heel turn would work is if he were up against someone who is completely over as a face (i.e. Austin).

[Guest Maurizio C... Version 2]

Hogan Made Wrestling, not to get off-topic but the size of your pics is what got them eliminated in the first place...

[Guest Hogan Made Wrestling]

Funny...on mine it says the links are broken. Regardless I'll go fix it later

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

I don't think a Rock heel turn would make much sense at the moment, even though it is needed. I don't know what the hell HHH-Hogan is about. Squeezing money out of the Hulk before his novelty value runs out I guess.

[Guest muzanisa]

Either they have their match, with plenty of oppurtunities for HHH and Hogan to turn Heel (think Piper/Bret) at at the end HHH wins and gets the face heat from Hogan or the HHH heel turn is coming. Or it's all going to change again on Raw.

[Guest Mystery Eskimo]

Arghhh! Just thought of awful possiblity of HHH v Hogan v Taker at Backlash. Please God no.

[Guest]

I think Rock is taking time off again when the movie is released so I doubt we're gonna see much of him doing anything right now and I remember reading he's taking the summer off again to make an other movie. That's why he's Hogan's little BUTT buddy right now.

 

As far as the battle of the Triple H's. I hope they throw Taker in there. I been diggin' his heel character and to tell you the truth, I know it won't happen but, seeing Taker with the belt at this point can't be much worst then HHH's title reign or Jericho's.

[Guest]

I think a Triple H Heel turn is the best way to go.

 

Having said that though.....

 

I'm suprised they've swapped it to HHH, Hogan as that means most of the feud will go down on Smakedown.

 

I think Triple H needs to be on the Raw roster as apart from Stone Cold and Undertaker they haven't got an awful lot of Top Teir Performers, (Kane could join them if booked right, the NWO have been treated like a joke, Booker T NEEDS to go Face and Bradshaw is fine for the first month, but I don't think he'll get that over)

 

Hmmmmmmm. Thinking about it I don't know what is the best direction for the match to go?