Is edge ready for the top?

[Guest]

There's no way Angle should be jobbing to Edge. A man who lost the IC belt in EVERY feud he was in over the belt. It wouldn't make much sence for Kurt to job to a single spear when at Summerslam he survived FOUR Stone Cold stunners.

 

As for Edge, he's so not ready for a main event push. The fans just pop for his seizure inducing intro and then promptly fall asleep once his match starts. Maybe he needs a more interesting mid card feud. Maybe a run with Christian is in order

[Guest Risk]

I don't know how much reforming E&C could do. I'm sorry but in my opinion, tag team wrestling is the most boring waste of a good wrestling match there could possibly be. You can ALWAYS see the finish coming, and I HATE that damn spot where two wrestlers slowly climb back to their corner.

 

Yeah...I hate the HOT TAG~!  Tag wrestling in Japan is much better.

[Guest]

I repeat forget edge, TEST should destroy Angle at Backlash.

[Guest Anglesault]

forget Edge what if Test came in and beat Angle clean that would be awesome.

Don't even joke about that.

[Guest]

Only way I wanna see Edge go over Angle is if Christian helps Edge. E&C getting back together would be the only good reason to job Angle out. Other wise, WWF better not even think about Angle losing Clean.

[Guest]

To put it simply, Edge sucks.  Don't get me wrong, he has his good points, but in it's current form Edge is a Billy Gunn or Test character, where the WWF responds to a failed push by pushing even harder, instead of trying to make corrections. Frilly Billy, Test, and Regal are now forgotten because of it, and Edge will be next if nothing changes.

 

On a good note, while I don't condone the impending Angle job in any way, i think Angle can recover from it. Angle actually has the skills and promos to recover lost heat. Maybe if certain orange goblins at the top of the card could say the same, they could job once in a while too.

[Guest the BURNHAM]

I don't know who said it about them pushing Y2J, and angle right now so there was no room for an Edge Push.  Are you condoning them only pushing a few wrestlers and everyone else wallows in medicority?  Perhaps edge isn't ready for being put over Angle yet, and Angle will squash edge.  So Edge goes of TV for awhile comes back in a few and attacks angle, (without the spear).  ONce he comes back, if he's bigger, he should be more over.

 

And whatever happened to the perennial midcarder, whose high goal was to get the IC belt.  People who were never considered main eventres or future main eventers?

[Guest Anglesault]

I don't know who said it about them pushing Y2J, and angle right now so there was no room for an Edge Push.  Are you condoning them only pushing a few wrestlers and everyone else wallows in medicority?  Perhaps edge isn't ready for being put over Angle yet, and Angle will squash edge.  So Edge goes of TV for awhile comes back in a few and attacks angle, (without the spear).  ONce he comes back, if he's bigger, he should be more over

 

Or, Edge loses to Angle at Backlash and we never utter the words "Edge vs. Angle" again!

[Guest Shawn]

Is Edge ready for the...

 

...arm-breaking Anglesault? Lets see...

[Guest Anglesault]

Oh please. It happened ONE TIME. Besides, it was only Bob Holly.

[Guest]

Who really cares where Angle is right now? Because, with in the next month Benoit's gonna be back and we're gonna get a Classic Part 2 of the Angle/Benoit Feud.

[Guest goodhelmet]

Amen to that Fearhavoc, and in the meantime, Angle can carry Edge to a possible **** match, something he couldn't do with Kane.

[Guest Anglesault]

I don't really wnat to see that just now. They both need to be in the main event. I'll wait for part two when one of them is champ.

[Guest Anglesault]

Amen to that Fearhavoc, and in the meantime, Angle can carry Edge to a possible **** match, something he couldn't do with Kane.

Edge never had and possibly never will have a **** match.

[Guest goodhelmet]

Edge vs. Lance Storm Summerslam 2001

 

And if Storm can carry him there then why wouldn't Angle be able to. Do you think Storm is a more talented wrestler than Angle? I don't think so.

[Guest Anglesault]

1. I didn't think that was ****

2. Kurt is (understandably) less motivated lately.

[Guest goodhelmet]

Well, I just popped it in the vcr a couple of days ago and it's worlds better than anything the WWF has done this year from a working standpoint.

 

Also, since when has it been proven Kurt is less motivated. His last two feuds were against Trips and Kane for chrissakes. Two lumbering slugs who Kurt was able to get decent matches out of. Kurt could easily carry Edge to a **** match. Give them 15 minutes and watch and see.

[Guest Shawn]

Some of those E&C matches were **** but that was probably just Christian carrying the team like always.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

well i normally wouldn't care who won the edge/angle feud i hope angle wins so we don't have to see anglesault break down in tears....

[Guest Anglesault]

Kurt could easily carry Edge to a **** match. Give them 15 minutes and watch and see.

If you say so.

 

But is it really worth the boring feud and midcard staus for Kurt?

[Guest El Satanico]

well i normally wouldn't care who won the edge/angle feud i hope angle wins so we don't have to see anglesault break down in tears....

Oh come now Cobain you know you'd get enjoyment from witnessing that. As would many of the people from round these here parts.

[Guest Anglesault]

I will stay strong.

 

 

On a sidenote, how do ya'll like my new sig picture? I now have four that I can cycle

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

very nice anglesault

[Guest]

And if Storm can carry him there then why wouldn't Angle be able to. Do you think Storm is a more talented wrestler than Angle? I don't think so.

 

OK, this might get some heat from Anglesault, but if you don't compare characters and charisma then YES I would say Lance Storm is just as much talented if not more talented a wrestler then Kurt Angle! And I'm not talking on the mat Olympic wrestling, I'm talking "PRO" Wrestling.

[Guest goodhelmet]

"But is it really worth the boring feud and midcard staus for Kurt?"

 

hey I'd rather see a good wrestling match in the midcard then see Angle pushed in the Main and get squashed by Trips or Hogan or Taker. It's similar to WCW in '97-'98. I had already tuned out the NWO main event scene and looked at the midcard to get my wrestling fix. In the perfect scenario, Angle, Jericho and Benoit would be the top guys and everyone else would grovel at their feet but that's not happening anytime soon. So right now, I would rather see good wrestling which is something that the WWF is not providing right now.

[Guest Anglesault]

And if Storm can carry him there then why wouldn't Angle be able to. Do you think Storm is a more talented wrestler than Angle? I don't think so.

 

OK, this might get some heat from Anglesault, but if you don't compare characters and charisma then YES I would say Lance Storm is just as much talented if not more talented a wrestler then Kurt Angle! And I'm not talking on the mat Olympic wrestling, I'm talking "PRO" Wrestling.

Who would argue that?

[Guest]

When Vince first bought WcW I was waiting for a small feud or at least a few matches between Storm & Angle. The Canadian Hero Vs The American Hero. I remember them having one match that was like 3 minutes long and Angle won. Just like many things with the Invasion, I was left Disappointed.

[Guest Anglesault]

It was a VERY good match though.

[Guest OSIcon]

Edge has Billy Gunn-d the King of the Ring big time. I'd forgotten he even won it.

 

This is such a dumb comment.  After King of the Ring, Edge went from a semi-comedy tag team wrestler to the second (and sometimes top) mid card face.  Its hard to argue that Edge isn't over, also.  He gets great crowd reaction that has increased since his kind of the ring win.  So if Kind of the Ring is supposed to elevate someone, it did in Edge's case.  In fact, it elevated him more then most people.  Edge didn't "Billy Gunn" his kind of the ring win and neither did the bookers in the case.  He got elevated in status right after and is more over now.  I venture to say that the reason that you and others don't remember he won the tournament  is because at the pace that angles move in the WWF (too fast) and the writers' tendency to not mention any history that took place more then a month ago.

 

Edge isn't on the upper card roster. Now we're in the territory of losing to midcarders CLEAN. He'll just look inferior.

 

So then how do any midcarders can elevated?  You can't say that just putting them in the ring with main eventers is enough.  Look at Jericho. After winning the World title and beating Rock several times and Austin does it finally look that he is cemented on the upper cusp of the card.  And even that's debatle.  

 

The whole point is Angle is solidified as a main eventer.  Putting over Edge is going to hurt him.  Cheating to beat Kane didn't hurt him.  If it is played off as an upset (but legitimate) and bing win for Edge, Angle will be just fine.  I think the real question is weather WWF is willing to do that, as over the past several years, they really haven't given any midcarder legitimate wins (time and time again) over main eventers in order to establish them.  Maybe that's why the upper card is so stale.

[Guest Anglesault]

I think edge most definately DID Billy Gunn the KotR. I really don't see any progression.

 

And You have to remember, there is a HUGE difference between getting Chickenshit heel victories while cheating your ass off to beat An extremely established face (Jericho-Rock, Austin) then beating a not so established heel CLEAN (Edge-Angle)