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can steiner do it?

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Guest TripleHater

He's a shitty Wrestler so thats why they boo'd him as a face in his shit matches.Steiner sucks,Every Match I seen him

in on Raw you could hear Boo's.You are,Wrong.

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steiner can be a good brawler. but i am mainly interested in his sports entertainment value. if all i cared about was workrate, i wouldn't watch raw. why do you?

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Guest TripleHater
hhh is a good wrestler.

Like Steiner? Thinks HHH is a good Wrestler,Hmmm What the hell are you doing on a "Smarks" Forum? Anyways

HHH a good Wrestler? Since when is Punching 20 Times,Clothesline,NeckBreaker,Hit Opponent With Sledge Hammer

make you a Good Wrestler? Damn Im gona have to set another HHH Fan straight today.

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it would work. i backed up my words with an explanation. its pretty hard to argue with my point. try though.

 

 

and if it did turn jericho face, i would be happy.

Your explanation was something like "I think it would work because they're fun to watch"

 

And the answer is no, because of course the crowds need someone to cheer for and get behind. Or else it'll put them to sleep. They would cheer for Jericho, but that would turn him face and that would be horrible. Jericho sucks as a face, seriously.

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hhh has good psycology, has the look, can cut a promo, and rarely has a bad match(when healthy). its a shame your blinded by being a smark sheep

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it would work. i backed up my words with an explanation. its pretty hard to argue with my point. try though.

 

 

and if it did turn jericho face, i would be happy.

Your explanation was something like "I think it would work because they're fun to watch"

 

And the answer is no, because of course the crowds need someone to cheer for and get behind. Or else it'll put them to sleep. They would cheer for Jericho, but that would turn him face and that would be horrible. Jericho sucks as a face, seriously.

thats true they need someone to get behind. are you telling me no one likes/cares about steiner and/or jericho?

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can cut a promo

Who cant when supposed to?

i mean "a promo" as in a good promo. tell me the backstage promo he cut on goldberg before their ppv match on raw wasn't intense, beleiveable, and more of a reason to buy a ppv.

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I'm saying that everyone really hates Steiner now and it'll turn Jericho unless they do something with him to make him really evil and heelish. Which would only make them both get apathy from the crowds.

 

Think about the time Jericho turned on Montreal after Shawn just ripped on them for about 10 minutes straight. You could just feel the energy draining out of that place.

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I'm saying that everyone really hates Steiner now and it'll turn Jericho unless they do something with him to make him really evil and heelish. Which would only make them both get apathy from the crowds.

 

Think about the time Jericho turned on Montreal after Shawn just ripped on them for about 10 minutes straight. You could just feel the energy draining out of that place.

i think this trish stratus angle is going to make him a super heel. something tells me hes going to bang her, and then dump her or treat her like a dog. either way it makes for some great television.

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That Promo was not good.It was Bad just like His Wrestling Skills.I was about to fall a sleep,Yeah that

was when the ballons was coming from the rafters and The Mic went off on him.Yep that promo SUCKED. "yeah

chant goldberg" "I will beat you and Retain the World Heavy Championship" "I beaten the best,Rock,Angle,etc"

That promo SUCKED,Intense yeah fuckin right.His promos are like the fuckin same,Nothin new. Im the world championship,I beaten so and So,Im the diamond,The best today. *yawn*

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hhh is a good wrestler.

Like Steiner? Thinks HHH is a good Wrestler,Hmmm What the hell are you doing on a "Smarks" Forum? Anyways

HHH a good Wrestler? Since when is Punching 20 Times,Clothesline,NeckBreaker,Hit Opponent With Sledge Hammer

make you a Good Wrestler? Damn Im gona have to set another HHH Fan straight today.

What the hell are you doing on a Smark forum? The S stands for smart, and by reading your posts....that quality is not reflected.

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That Promo was not good.It was Bad just like His Wrestling Skills.I was about to fall a sleep,Yeah that

was when the ballons was coming from the rafters and The Mic went off on him.Yep that promo SUCKED. "yeah

chant goldberg" "I will beat you and Retain the World Heavy Championship" "I beaten the best,Rock,Angle,etc"

That promo SUCKED,Intense yeah fuckin right.His promos are like the fuckin same,Nothin new. Im the world championship,I beaten so and So,Im the diamond,The best today. *yawn*

first of all, all that stuf he always says, thats his CHARACTER. and i was referring to the BACKSTAGE promo anyway. although when the mic went out that hello hello hello had me laughing. his wrestling skills are good when he wants them to be, just look at last years summerslam. and his promos are beleivable. oh and by the way... all i hear from you is what i would expect to, that being that you are a smark robot who just echos the words of whoever originated them.

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What's wrong with my posts? Got a problem with them? Dis-Agree with them? Say so.

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What's wrong with my posts? Got a problem with them? Dis-Agree with them? Say so.

the only problem is that you add nothing to a discussion. your a fucking tag along.you remind me of that little dog in the warner bros cartoons that used to follow spike around.

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Damn HHH Fans say the same damn thing.Watch last year's summerslam,Yeah I got the damn thing on DVD,Why?

Where is HHH good "single" matches? HHH Fans come quick to name Bad Blood's(HIAC),SS's(NO DQ)JD's(HIAC)

The ones I argue with.Any Wrestler can Wrestle a 20 Minute Match and Use Chairs,Barbwires,Table,Ladder and

A WWE Fan(Not all but some) Will say "Did you see so and So Match,It was Good"! I just knew you was gona say

somethin about SS.I like Technical Wrestlers not Brawlers,I prefer Single Matches maybe you dont.

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Damn HHH Fans say the same damn thing.Watch last year's summerslam,Yeah I got the damn thing on DVD,Why?

Where is HHH good "single" matches? HHH Fans come quick to name Bad Blood's(HIAC),SS's(NO DQ)JD's(HIAC)

The ones I argue with.Any Wrestler can Wrestle a 20 Minute Match and Use Chairs,Barbwires,Table,Ladder and

A WWE Fan(Not all but some) Will say "Did you see so and So Match,It was Good"! I just knew you was gona say

somethin about SS.I like Technical Wrestlers not Brawlers,I prefer Single Matches maybe you dont.

i like singles matches too, as well as technical wrestlers. and cruiserweights. and...

i like all of it. surely even you can remember back in 2000 when he was churning out 4* matches. one that comes to mind is that last man standing match against jericho. that was a great match. just because he injured his quad it doesn't mean that he injured his brain. he remembers how to work a match the wame way, maybe even better. you must also keep in mind the fact that the office books the matches.

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plus you're like Sean Waltman, you capitalize words that don't need to be.

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It's not 2000 anymore its 2003 and He's a Bad Wrestler.

well whatever , your brain seems to be impervious to logic. graze my lamb, graze.

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and btw, the reason you hate his matches are the way they are booked. if he was booked to look like a pussy you would probably love that match.

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Guest TripleHater

"BTW" Again? The "Edit" button is on here for a Reason.Anyways HHH has been Booked to look like A pussy before

and I think the maches were bad so you are wrong.HHH is the Booker ;)

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i think this trish stratus angle is going to make him a super heel. something tells me hes going to bang her, and then dump her or treat her like a dog. either way it makes for some great television.

See, I don't know why they do stuff like that. It never turns out good. Like the time HHH came down to the ring and everybody thought he was gonna help Rock. The crowd was deafening. They had WANTED to cheer for HHH. But then he turned, and they ruined it all. It didn't make him a stronger heel like they thought it would, it just didn't do a whole lot of anything. Because they wanted to root for HHH and WWE didn't let them. What good does pissing fans off ever do? It didn't help ratings, that's for sure.

 

As for Montreal, it didn't only drain the energy outta that one segment. Before that, the crowd was hot. After it, everything was quiet. It killed the whole entire night. When Jericho came out later, he didn't get cheered or booed. He got no reaction at all. So I don't think that's a good way to go.

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I can't believe we're actually having a discussion on the worth of Scott Steiner....he's worthless guys. Face it. The guy is through. He can't even do basic wrestling moves anymore. Yes there was a time when he was the best in the world. However this isn't 1994 anymore. Steiner's greatness has passed.

Witness Royal Rumble and No Way Out where he fucked up EVERY move he tried and ended up turning the crowd on him. It's just absurd to think that the guy can be used anymore. He can't wrestle, his promo's are all "freaks! fuck you! jabberdey dooo!", and on top of that...nobody gives a damn about him.

Oh and heel/heel feuds NEVER draw. Witness Angle/HHH from Royal Rumble 2001. The fans did not give a shit about who won that match. If a heel/heel feud has never worked before....then why would it work now!?

Oh and about HHH being a good worker....I'm not even going to touch that.....the guy WAS a good worker. But he can't physically do it anymore. No his mind has not changed but his body has. And he can't move at the same pace that he used to. His matches have become slow, plodding, and boring. And I say this as a wrestling fan who enjoys good wrestling. HHH does not give it.

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The only thing I'm worried about is if they're gonna continue the Test / Steiner relationship once Test heals...

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Body builder oversized muscles CHECK

Blond hair CHECK

Catch phrases CHECK

 

Scott Steiner has all of the qualities that JR and Vince mark out for...............that does not mean that it will be fun to watch on tv.

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Guest BionicRedneck
hhh has good psycology, has the look, can cut a promo, and rarely has a bad match(when healthy). its a shame your blinded by being a smark sheep

Yeah, and he was "the best in the world in 2000!" too, right? :lol:

 

It's a shame you are blinded by the shit that has been shovelled to you by Vince and Co.

 

Oh, and on the "but he is still a decent worker" comment: Yeah, a "decent" worker who hasn't had a decent match this year. I guess he is just saving all his decent performances for some other time.

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