the jericho/trish angle

[Guest robvandam420]

And I'm still waiting for you to explain why your ideas that are failing on TV are better than ours that haven't even been given a chance.

they haven't been given a chance because they dont stand one.

None of us have even sent in our ideas so of course they don't stand a chance you moron...if we sent them in the WWE would probably thank us, use it on TV and tell us to fuck off

the wwe watches the internet. they see what you write. if it was any good it would be on tv right now.

[Guest robvandam420]

jericho would never be another test. test sucks and is a heat vacuum. jericho could do it and make it great tv. just imagine jericho being a player. it fits with the iotola of rockandrolla  gimic so well its not even funny.

Not really. It fits Test.

rock stars bang hot chicks dude, what are you saying?

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And I'm still waiting for you to explain why your ideas that are failing on TV are better than ours that haven't even been given a chance.

they haven't been given a chance because they dont stand one.

None of us have even sent in our ideas so of course they don't stand a chance you moron...if we sent them in the WWE would probably thank us, use it on TV and tell us to fuck off

the wwe watches the internet. they see what you write. if it was any good it would be on tv right now.

Yes but explain why what is on TV IS NOT GOOD! Why it isn't drawing ratings.

Like we've said. What we're all suggesting DREW HUGE in 2000 and they basically abandoned it for your style of writing and the ratings PLUMMETED. So once again you prove that you are a complete moron.

[Guest Askewniverse]

oh yeah, spelling on a bbs is a great indicater of intelligence... if thats the case dont make me break out math equations that before which you would piss your pants. how many theorems do you have genius boy?

What does BBS stand for? Bring Bad Spelling?

[Guest robvandam420]

Please...PLEASE explain how you know the business better than us just because

 

'i triked a sekretry into thinkin i was gerwitzer's school frend'

 

You have claimed to have ideas, you have claimed to know what draws...yet whenever someone asks you to prove it, you don't. When someone asks you to join SJL and prove you can write, you don't. You MUST be a gimmick poster. I'm waiting for you to reveal yourself as Russo on page 22...

 

IT WAS ME DAMARAMU...IT WAS ME ALLLLL ALONG!!!

 

 

Oh, and someone make this a classic thread...this guy has made himself look like an ass more times then...well...an actual ass.

i would never give any ideas to people who wouldn't appreciate them. its shock tv, you would not like it. i would not like to have my work torn to shreds by someone who's opinion represents a very small minority and is therefore useless.

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oh yeah, spelling on a bbs is a great indicater of intelligence... if thats the case dont make me break out math equations that before which you would piss your pants. how many theorems do you have genius boy?

What does BBS stand for? Bring Bad Spelling?

It's a new slang word, for BS that's so bad they added an extra B.

[Guest robvandam420]

I'm waiting for you to reveal yourself as Russo on page 22...

 

IT WAS ME DAMARAMU...IT WAS ME ALLLLL ALONG!!!

 

 

Oh, and someone make this a classic thread...this guy has made himself look like an ass more times then...well...an actual ass.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man...I'm going to die....that was great.......oh dear god. That right there makes this thread classic.

Damn Prince Paul returns...only instead of using all caps he uses no caps.......someone unban Eagan just so we can get one last "IT'S PRINCE PAUL! TROLL!"

im not prince paul. im new to this forum. i see how you guys welcome different points of view. reminds me of bin laden in a very watered down sense.

[Damaramu 0]

I'm waiting for you to reveal yourself as Russo on page 22...

 

IT WAS ME DAMARAMU...IT WAS ME ALLLLL ALONG!!!

 

 

Oh, and someone make this a classic thread...this guy has made himself look like an ass more times then...well...an actual ass.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man...I'm going to die....that was great.......oh dear god. That right there makes this thread classic.

Damn Prince Paul returns...only instead of using all caps he uses no caps.......someone unban Eagan just so we can get one last "IT'S PRINCE PAUL! TROLL!"

im not prince paul. im new to this forum. i see how you guys welcome different points of view. reminds me of bin laden in a very watered down sense.

Oh man. Now he's really flamebating. OMG BAN PLZ~!

Anyways....it's not that you have a different point of view it's that your presenting it like this:

"My ideas are better than yours. I'm smarter than all of you. You are all idiots. My ideas are the best despite the fact they draw very low ratings and yours draw very high ratings. Idiots."

So now maybe you can see where there would be a conflict.

[Guest robvandam420]

Also have you had access to the backstage area RVD420? Just cause you "almost" got in as a writer doesn't mean you know more about the business, it just means you can write pretty well according to their standards. Face it, you know just as much as we do so don't pull this holier then thou bullshit on us. Fact is, some of our storylines are not only original but pretty good(Check out the Fantasy Folder or the EWR Forums on Ryland's site for proof) but we choose to use them as a fun outlet rather then trying to get onto the writing staff.

thats cool. the only person i really have a problem with a damaruru or whatever his name is. he's really stupid. like you know, mentally impotent. i will check the folders you mentioned for the hell of it, but im warning you guys im pretty damn good.

Right....because you started flaming me first because I disagreed with your stupid idea. And now I've made you look like an idiot over and over again. Is that why you don't like me? Don't hate your betters son...

hahaha. it was a good idea and you told me that it sucked. so for your lack of respect and returned the same thing. you will never make me look stupid, because its not even you talking. you share the exact same points of view with all the internet writers, especially wade keller. your a fucking carbon copy. you say the same thing over and over. but your not correct. if your way worked it would be on tv. and dont even go telling me that you know what all the fans want. you dont. people dont care about your kind of wrestling anymore. its history. poeple care about shit that makes their jaw drop. thats why when kane burned jr the ratings soared. they just didn't follow it up right.

[Damaramu 0]

Also have you had access to the backstage area RVD420? Just cause you "almost" got in as a writer doesn't mean you know more about the business, it just means you can write pretty well according to their standards. Face it, you know just as much as we do so don't pull this holier then thou bullshit on us. Fact is, some of our storylines are not only original but pretty good(Check out the Fantasy Folder or the EWR Forums on Ryland's site for proof) but we choose to use them as a fun outlet rather then trying to get onto the writing staff.

thats cool. the only person i really have a problem with a damaruru or whatever his name is. he's really stupid. like you know, mentally impotent. i will check the folders you mentioned for the hell of it, but im warning you guys im pretty damn good.

Right....because you started flaming me first because I disagreed with your stupid idea. And now I've made you look like an idiot over and over again. Is that why you don't like me? Don't hate your betters son...

hahaha. it was a good idea and you told me that it sucked. so for your lack of respect and returned the same thing. you will never make me look stupid, because its not even you talking. you share the exact same points of view with all the internet writers, especially wade keller. your a fucking carbon copy. you say the same thing over and over. but your not correct. if your way worked it would be on tv. and dont even go telling me that you know what all the fans want. you dont. people dont care about your kind of wrestling anymore. its history. poeple care about shit that makes their jaw drop. thats why when kane burned jr the ratings soared. they just didn't follow it up right.

Right......I disrespected a good idea....do you do this everytime someone disagrees with your opinion. Oh man if you are going to be a scientist I can't wait until one of your theories is proven wrong

"It is not! I'm smarter than you! If your theory was right then it would've been used long ago! Idiot!"

And I say the exact same thing over and over? Right...this coming from the guy who can't even defend his own opinion if the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Oh and you're right...I can't make you look stupid. You've done a pretty good job of that yourself bucko.

[Guest robvandam420]

And I'm still waiting for you to explain why your ideas that are failing on TV are better than ours that haven't even been given a chance.

they haven't been given a chance because they dont stand one.

None of us have even sent in our ideas so of course they don't stand a chance you moron...if we sent them in the WWE would probably thank us, use it on TV and tell us to fuck off

the wwe watches the internet. they see what you write. if it was any good it would be on tv right now.

Yes but explain why what is on TV IS NOT GOOD! Why it isn't drawing ratings.

Like we've said. What we're all suggesting DREW HUGE in 2000 and they basically abandoned it for your style of writing and the ratings PLUMMETED. So once again you prove that you are a complete moron.

no actually it didn't. vince russo was responsable for winning the monday night wars. he did it with attitude and shock tv. are you now going to tell me that its not the reason they won? its because they were bringing something to the table that people were surprised to see. surprised draw viewers. old mindless predictable angles dont do shit except waste the companys money.

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guerrero is one of my favorites, but i dont think they will ever push him hard enough to reach austin's level. his in ring is the best in the company, his promo work is solid, as well as his crowd interaction. the only problem is the stereotypical mexican gimic. if they toned down the accent and made him more serious he would have a chance, but it would still be a slim one.

Exactly. It's because they won't push him. That's it! So how can you pretend like the storylines of 98-00 won't work because there's not enough talent..... when in reality they have all the talent they need, they only refuse to use it?!

 

jericho is great too, but we've seen how much faith they have in him ala the lucy the dog angle.

 

They did give him the world title though and sometimes he's in 4 segments a night. Maybe your soap opera writers are just clueless about wrestling and don't have any idea on how to build anyone up. Here's a solution. Hire back all the writers from 97-00.

 

angle is really good all around, but he as a person just cant play the kind of character that wwe needs for the next superstar. angle is really good, but kinda corny regardless of what role he's in.

 

Go back and watch the coldplay video. There's nothing corny about it.

 

benoit is a workrate god, but thats all. people pop for his matches, but they dont really have a choice, just look at him out there. unfortunatly he will never be big because he just cant talk and doesn't have charisma. you know vince, man.

 

They did, in the summer of 2001. They didn't exactly get many chances to besides that. He was a heel before the Royal Rumble and he went to waste afterwards. Shawn and Bret weren't big either but Vince didn't have a problem with them. And please note that even though they aren't doing anything with him, he's still over and according to the ratings chart, brings in a ton of viewers.

[Guest robvandam420]

I'm waiting for you to reveal yourself as Russo on page 22...

 

IT WAS ME DAMARAMU...IT WAS ME ALLLLL ALONG!!!

 

 

Oh, and someone make this a classic thread...this guy has made himself look like an ass more times then...well...an actual ass.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man...I'm going to die....that was great.......oh dear god. That right there makes this thread classic.

Damn Prince Paul returns...only instead of using all caps he uses no caps.......someone unban Eagan just so we can get one last "IT'S PRINCE PAUL! TROLL!"

im not prince paul. im new to this forum. i see how you guys welcome different points of view. reminds me of bin laden in a very watered down sense.

Oh man. Now he's really flamebating. OMG BAN PLZ~!

Anyways....it's not that you have a different point of view it's that your presenting it like this:

"My ideas are better than yours. I'm smarter than all of you. You are all idiots. My ideas are the best despite the fact they draw very low ratings and yours draw very high ratings. Idiots."

So now maybe you can see where there would be a conflict.

the reason im here is because i've been seeing the things on this forum and it seems you all think the same. well i wanted to give another point of view, namely mine. ovcoarse i beleive mine is better and vice-versa. all you say is look at the ratings but i brought up the kane angle and you had nothing to say.

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And I'm still waiting for you to explain why your ideas that are failing on TV are better than ours that haven't even been given a chance.

they haven't been given a chance because they dont stand one.

None of us have even sent in our ideas so of course they don't stand a chance you moron...if we sent them in the WWE would probably thank us, use it on TV and tell us to fuck off

the wwe watches the internet. they see what you write. if it was any good it would be on tv right now.

Yes but explain why what is on TV IS NOT GOOD! Why it isn't drawing ratings.

Like we've said. What we're all suggesting DREW HUGE in 2000 and they basically abandoned it for your style of writing and the ratings PLUMMETED. So once again you prove that you are a complete moron.

no actually it didn't. vince russo was responsable for winning the monday night wars. he did it with attitude and shock tv.

LMAO, if he won the ratings wars, why couldn't he win them over at WCW?

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no actually it didn't. vince russo was responsable for winning the monday night wars. he did it with attitude and shock tv. are you now going to tell me that its not the reason they won? its because they were bringing something to the table that people were surprised to see. surprised draw viewers. old mindless predictable angles dont do shit except waste the companys money.

Yes, but shock tv is not what the audience wants to see anymore, they've had their fill for awhile. I wouldn't mind if WWE did a couple shock angles, as long as they backed it up with GOOD wrestling.

 

What the WWE needs right now is balance. They can still do shock tv angles to bring in the calibre of fan who enjoys that, but they should also have more traditional feuds based on simple premises so everyone has something they want to see. And above all, if the angle is based around shock tv, make sure it is set up around GOOD wrestling.

 

Wrestling foremost, the angles and stories should just keep things interesting inbetween matches and to set them up. Angles should not be the focus of the shows.

[Guest robvandam420]

Also have you had access to the backstage area RVD420? Just cause you "almost" got in as a writer doesn't mean you know more about the business, it just means you can write pretty well according to their standards. Face it, you know just as much as we do so don't pull this holier then thou bullshit on us. Fact is, some of our storylines are not only original but pretty good(Check out the Fantasy Folder or the EWR Forums on Ryland's site for proof) but we choose to use them as a fun outlet rather then trying to get onto the writing staff.

thats cool. the only person i really have a problem with a damaruru or whatever his name is. he's really stupid. like you know, mentally impotent. i will check the folders you mentioned for the hell of it, but im warning you guys im pretty damn good.

Right....because you started flaming me first because I disagreed with your stupid idea. And now I've made you look like an idiot over and over again. Is that why you don't like me? Don't hate your betters son...

hahaha. it was a good idea and you told me that it sucked. so for your lack of respect and returned the same thing. you will never make me look stupid, because its not even you talking. you share the exact same points of view with all the internet writers, especially wade keller. your a fucking carbon copy. you say the same thing over and over. but your not correct. if your way worked it would be on tv. and dont even go telling me that you know what all the fans want. you dont. people dont care about your kind of wrestling anymore. its history. poeple care about shit that makes their jaw drop. thats why when kane burned jr the ratings soared. they just didn't follow it up right.

Right......I disrespected a good idea....do you do this everytime someone disagrees with your opinion. Oh man if you are going to be a scientist I can't wait until one of your theories is proven wrong

"It is not! I'm smarter than you! If your theory was right then it would've been used long ago! Idiot!"

And I say the exact same thing over and over? Right...this coming from the guy who can't even defend his own opinion if the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Oh and you're right...I can't make you look stupid. You've done a pretty good job of that yourself bucko.

umm, you have no evidence. there are so many factors involved in ratings analysis. the only way you can prove me wrong is by the wwe using your methods, and then seeing the ratings rise. but they wont do that because they know those methods are outdated, and were meant for a society with less intelligence and education.... namely children. they use these new methods because it will get more adults interested. its more fun for me to watch, i know that. and anyway, austin/mcmahon was shock tv, like when austin beat up mcmahon with the bedpan. and the security guards. and what ever else you may remember. and thats why you remember it, because its good writing.

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You mentioned before, RobVanDam420, that Vince is trying to compete with sitcoms. Why would he do that? Because he has lost touch with his fans and, some might say, reality.

 

The best example I could think of off the top of my head was if MLB was losing ratings to the NFL and Golf. They wouldn't start intergrating football and golf elements into their sport and make sure that the actual baseball takes a back seat in the hopes of luring over some viewers, now would they?

 

That is exactly what Vince McMahon and company are doing right now. They are trying to be something they are not, and are putting the thing that makes WRESTLING WRESTLING, the actual WRESTLING, into the back of the line. When you have some 30 odd minutes of wrestling on a 2 hour wrestling show, something has gone terribly wrong and it's time to step back and re-evaluate.

[Guest robvandam420]

And I'm still waiting for you to explain why your ideas that are failing on TV are better than ours that haven't even been given a chance.

they haven't been given a chance because they dont stand one.

None of us have even sent in our ideas so of course they don't stand a chance you moron...if we sent them in the WWE would probably thank us, use it on TV and tell us to fuck off

the wwe watches the internet. they see what you write. if it was any good it would be on tv right now.

Yes but explain why what is on TV IS NOT GOOD! Why it isn't drawing ratings.

Like we've said. What we're all suggesting DREW HUGE in 2000 and they basically abandoned it for your style of writing and the ratings PLUMMETED. So once again you prove that you are a complete moron.

no actually it didn't. vince russo was responsable for winning the monday night wars. he did it with attitude and shock tv.

LMAO, if he won the ratings wars, why couldn't he win them over at WCW?

because without vince to control those ideas they went down the shitter. namely making arquette champ.

[Guest robvandam420]

no actually it didn't. vince russo was responsable for winning the monday night wars. he did it with attitude and shock tv. are you now going to tell me that its not the reason they won? its because they were bringing something to the table that people were surprised to see. surprised draw viewers. old mindless predictable angles dont do shit except waste the companys money.

Yes, but shock tv is not what the audience wants to see anymore, they've had their fill for awhile. I wouldn't mind if WWE did a couple shock angles, as long as they backed it up with GOOD wrestling.

 

What the WWE needs right now is balance. They can still do shock tv angles to bring in the calibre of fan who enjoys that, but they should also have more traditional feuds based on simple premises so everyone has something they want to see. And above all, if the angle is based around shock tv, make sure it is set up around GOOD wrestling.

 

Wrestling foremost, the angles and stories should just keep things interesting inbetween matches and to set them up. Angles should not be the focus of the shows.

i agree. good matches are definately important, but these days the angles are just as important imo.

[Guest robvandam420]

You mentioned before, RobVanDam420, that Vince is trying to compete with sitcoms. Why would he do that? Because he has lost touch with his fans and, some might say, reality.

 

The best example I could think of off the top of my head was if MLB was losing ratings to the NFL and Golf. They wouldn't start intergrating football and golf elements into their sport and make sure that the actual baseball takes a back seat in the hopes of luring over some viewers, now would they?

 

That is exactly what Vince McMahon and company are doing right now. They are trying to be something they are not, and are putting the thing that makes WRESTLING WRESTLING, the actual WRESTLING, into the back of the line. When you have some 30 odd minutes of wrestling on a 2 hour wrestling show, something has gone terribly wrong and it's time to step back and re-evaluate.

the thing is vince is not satisfied with viewership. he's hungry and wants as many viewers as he can get. i enjoy it.

[Guest jm29195]

Bloody hell, this bloke has been here for 2 days and he's already beaten my post count by keepimg it all in one thread and not saying anything that makes any sense.....how sad....

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umm, you have no evidence. there are so many factors involved in ratings analysis. 

Like what? The economy? Ratings went down and excitement is at an all time low, face facts.

 

the only way you can prove me wrong is by the wwe using your methods, and then seeing the ratings rise. but they wont do that because they know those methods are outdated, and were meant for a society with less intelligence and education.... namely children. they use these new methods because it will get more adults interested.  its more fun for me to watch, i know that. and anyway, austin/mcmahon was shock tv, like when austin beat up mcmahon with the bedpan. and the security guards. and what ever else you may remember. and thats why you remember it, because its good writing.

 

It had some shock TV but the main reason people were tuning in was to see Austin buck authority and make his boss's life a living hell. Security guards aren't shock TV. What's shocking about that?

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no actually it didn't. vince russo was responsable for winning the monday night wars. he did it with attitude and shock tv. are you now going to tell me that its not the reason they won? its because they were bringing something to the table that people were surprised to see. surprised draw viewers. old mindless predictable angles dont do shit except waste the companys money.

Yes, but shock tv is not what the audience wants to see anymore, they've had their fill for awhile. I wouldn't mind if WWE did a couple shock angles, as long as they backed it up with GOOD wrestling.

 

What the WWE needs right now is balance. They can still do shock tv angles to bring in the calibre of fan who enjoys that, but they should also have more traditional feuds based on simple premises so everyone has something they want to see. And above all, if the angle is based around shock tv, make sure it is set up around GOOD wrestling.

 

Wrestling foremost, the angles and stories should just keep things interesting inbetween matches and to set them up. Angles should not be the focus of the shows.

i agree. good matches are definately important, but these days the angles are just as important imo.

Your opinion sucks. Get a better one.

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the thing is vince is not satisfied with viewership. he's hungry and wants as many viewers as he can get. i enjoy it.

But he has lost viewers because of it. If he wants to bring in new viewers, he's not doing a good job. Ratings are currently steady around a 3.5 mark, but they were much better a couple years ago.

 

Like I said, balance is what the WWE needs. You need stuff to appeal to a broad range of tastes. You can have one or two shock angles, and then balance those out with one or two more traditional, simple premise angles. And then mix it up with at least 1 hour of wrestling every show. At least 1 hour.

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because without vince to control those ideas they went down the shitter. namely making arquette champ.

This ignores the fact that 2000 was a better year for WWE than any one Russo was a part of. If ratings went up for Russo, they should have immediately went down when he left, right?

[Guest robvandam420]

umm, you have no evidence. there are so many factors involved in ratings analysis. 

Like what? The economy? Ratings went down and excitement is at an all time low, face facts.

 

the only way you can prove me wrong is by the wwe using your methods, and then seeing the ratings rise. but they wont do that because they know those methods are outdated, and were meant for a society with less intelligence and education.... namely children. they use these new methods because it will get more adults interested.  its more fun for me to watch, i know that. and anyway, austin/mcmahon was shock tv, like when austin beat up mcmahon with the bedpan. and the security guards. and what ever else you may remember. and thats why you remember it, because its good writing.

 

It had some shock TV but the main reason people were tuning in was to see Austin buck authority and make his boss's life a living hell. Security guards aren't shock TV. What's shocking about that?

yes it is. its un conventional. and not expected from a normal wrestling show that you guys would like. might as well give up on wwe and start ordering tapes from japan.

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I'm out.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Holy shit, this topic is 15 pages now!!!!

 

O_O

[Guest robvandam420]

no actually it didn't. vince russo was responsable for winning the monday night wars. he did it with attitude and shock tv. are you now going to tell me that its not the reason they won? its because they were bringing something to the table that people were surprised to see. surprised draw viewers. old mindless predictable angles dont do shit except waste the companys money.

Yes, but shock tv is not what the audience wants to see anymore, they've had their fill for awhile. I wouldn't mind if WWE did a couple shock angles, as long as they backed it up with GOOD wrestling.

 

What the WWE needs right now is balance. They can still do shock tv angles to bring in the calibre of fan who enjoys that, but they should also have more traditional feuds based on simple premises so everyone has something they want to see. And above all, if the angle is based around shock tv, make sure it is set up around GOOD wrestling.

 

Wrestling foremost, the angles and stories should just keep things interesting inbetween matches and to set them up. Angles should not be the focus of the shows.

i agree. good matches are definately important, but these days the angles are just as important imo.

Your opinion sucks. Get a better one.

a better one, like the one all of you share. sorry thats not an opinion, thats a cult beleif. and its wrong. these are the opinions of wade keller and such. who cant get a job with the wwe. did you ever wonder why? probably because they aren't good enough.

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yes it is. its un conventional.  and not expected from a normal wrestling show that you guys would like. might as well give up on wwe and start ordering tapes from japan.

What the fuck? The time we're talking about is 98-00. That's what we want. And security guards aren't shock TV.