Remember when the rock...

[Guest Pidgerii-4q2]

Does anyone remember The Rock's dropkicks?  Lol they were awful.  It scares me just how much Rock relies on his opponent to execute his moves, his Samoan Drop is very sloppy (in addition to those already mentioned).  And that floatover, I can recall when he screwed that up mightily during the Iron Man Match.  He just doesn't seem to care when it comes to execution.  This is coming from someone who likes The Rock.

[Guest]

Since this thread has become more about WWF "Style" I thought I would post this. I just found it on 411's ask411 Column.

 

Matt P. – Q: have somewhat of a more subjective rather than objective question to ask you. It's well publicized how protective the WWF is of its "style." I don’t' think I need to describe it in too much detail but things like brawling for transitions, signature moves for every wrestler, spots repeated in every match, unique finishers etc. Now, I'm not saying this is a bad style by any means as there have been numerous 4-5 star matches put on by the WWF's top performers recently, but why is it that WWF is so opposed to featuring any others on their program…why is it we have to keep being reminded by J.R. that RVD's style is "very unorthodox" and the Hardyz are "high risk?" And just an additional addendum, what's your favorite non WWF style? It can be anything from classic American styles to modern indy stuntfests to foreign stuff like All Japan, New Japan Cruiser, Lucha, etc.

 

A: The WWF style makes it very easy for the newer entertainment fans to get into the matches. They know their cues – Spell W-O-R-M for Scotty, Cheer like mad for the People’s Elbow etc etc. Fans can easily get involved in the matches without too much actual knowledge or interest in the match quality itself. The WWF has had great success with this style and are very hesitant to change things that worked for them. That being said it looks like they are going to really try again to stray from their formula by bringing in Guerrero, drafting Benoit and pushing his return so heavily and bringing up new wrestlers from the developmental territories. I guess they also make RVD and the Hardyz very unique by limiting the amount of wrestlers with similar styles. They are a novelty and not the norm. If the WWF set the bar too high on the high risks only cruiserweights and hardcore monsters could compete. We saw where that got ECW.

 

Speaking of that I guess my favorite style is the hardcore lucha style that Tajiri and Super Crazy showcased so many times in ECW. I also really liked the stiff, scientific Stampede style that formed my first wrestling memories in the 70s and Bret eventually brought to the WWF.

[Guest Goodear]

I watch alot of CZW Who was on the show? I can tell you if they were some of the better guys at puting matches together or not.

 

Lets see, the matches were

1) Quiet Storm vs. "Softcore" Insert that guys real name

  Result: 15 minute Time Limit Draw

- Storm seemed determined to slap on some submission holds, but none of them got sold long term or strung together with each other.  Another major problem in the match for me was that they didn't set up major spots very well.  Like Quiet Storm used a punch to immobilize "Soft Core" long enough to hit a frog splash, but not long enough to get a three count.

 

2) Chris Cash vs. GQ

     Result: No Contest when they hug and punch the referee

- Talk about your poor striking.  Jesus.  Cash could hit a swank 360 spinkick, but his chops and punches were about as terrible as terrible could be.  It was pretty obvious these guys were pretty young, so I'm sure they could learn if given some proper learning.

 

3) Rukus vs. W*inger vs. Trent Acid

    Winner: Rukus pins W*inger with a 450 splash

- Rukus needs to learn to do a move without doing a cartwheel first.  There were at least 3 in this one match!  But at least he was somewhat memorable, W*inger was as boring as the day is long.  Trent Acid was mighty fine though, and could have a cruiserweight future.

 

And does the WWF tell people to do only a few moves? I hear stuff about the WWF but what is it? I'm sorry if This Was answered before

 

Yeah, like when Doring and Roadkill came in for a try out match and got reemed out for using other guys' finishers inside their match.   By taking a less is more philiosophy, the WWF hopes to have it be more important when someone hits , lets say, a shooting star press.

[Guest BaldGhoti]

I guess they also make RVD and the Hardyz very unique by limiting the amount of wrestlers with similar styles. They are a novelty and not the norm. If the WWF set the bar too high on the high risks only cruiserweights and hardcore monsters could compete. We saw where that got ECW.

Gee, where DID it get ECW?  Hm, let me think...

 

...oh yeah, it made ECW the most well-known and popular American promotion not backed by Millionaire Ted or Millionaire Vince!  How silly of me!