Team xtreme haters

[Guest]

The team name should be the "we have no mic skills and have to steal all our moves from RVD & Sabu, stale, not over except with 9 year old girls team".

[Guest Shaved Bear]

God, whenever the "HardyZ" come out did you notice that their screams are different, its like a high pitched shriek ..... at first i thought it was recorded onto the song, but then I learned better, send em down to OVW, and does anyone remember when they would all say Jeff Hardy is the next HBK

[Guest Downhome]

Personally, my hope is that Brock Lesnar will end this damn Lesnar/Hardyz feud by eating all three of them, and then spits them the hell out. Because really...

 

...what monster could even stomach them if most of US can't?

 

After the regergitation of "Team Cream", they can then go to the WWF's "farm club" to work on their mic skills, ring work, and working a heelish gimmick. Then, they can come back under that, WITHOUT Lita. It would be interesting for them to come back after being gone, as heels, and join Heyman's "group". I can just imagine him forcing them do do crazy sh*t jumping around the outside of the ring, lol. Hell...

 

...Heyman can say that if they don't do what he says he'll have Brock Leanar eat them again also if they want.

 

But yeah, that's my thoughts on them right now, and what I'd like to see.

[Guest]

The team name should be the "we have no mic skills and have to steal all our moves from RVD & Sabu, stale, not over except with 9 year old girls team".

How amazingly idiotic of you.  How do they steal moves from RVD and Sabu?  Moves, of which, were more than likely used before RVD and Sabu became wrestlers.

[Guest]

Sabu & Van Dam did almost all of the Hardyz double team moves. Jeff stole the senton bomb from dick togo and Matt doesn't have a good move in his arsenal.

[Guest]

Sabu & Van Dam did almost all of the Hardyz double team moves. Jeff stole the senton bomb from dick togo and Matt doesn't have a good move in his arsenal.

Were those moves copyrighted by RVD and Sabu?  Did they own those moves?  I highly doubt it.  About 50 years worth of professional wrestling and you don't think those moves (double team or singles) were done before?  Gimme a break.  Matt and Jeff, I highly doubt, stole those moves from anyone.

[Guest Downhome]

Sabu & Van Dam did almost all of the Hardyz double team moves. Jeff stole the senton bomb from dick togo and Matt doesn't have a good move in his arsenal.

Were those moves copyrighted by RVD and Sabu?  Did they own those moves?  I highly doubt it.  About 50 years worth of professional wrestling and you don't think those moves (double team or singles) were done before?  Gimme a break.  Matt and Jeff, I highly doubt, stole those moves from anyone.

I believe the point that this guy is trying to make, is the fact that The Hardyz are simply stale. They are famous for doing moves, that others are MORE famous for, thus, they "stole" them.

 

Yes, wrestlers do moves that others do all the time, but what I think he's trying to say, is that The Hardyz are HARDLY original.

[Guest nWoScorpion]

Sabu & RVD were Superstars while the hardly over anymore guys dressed like ninjas caled the Jinx Brothers. Reason why they were jobbed to hell for 5 years....THEY SUCK! I mean, when was the alst time someone quoted a hardy or lita the bitch with ZERO Mic skills at all.

 

Favorte Hardy Moment: Kane debuting on Raw (i think) double chokeslamming them when they were jobbers..

[Guest Ripper]

You know whats funny though.  The Hardy's get REALLY BIG pops when they come out and everyone says "Oh its only 9 year old girls."  Ok, maybe I am seeing things, but 9 year old girls don't populate much of the audience.   They get those screams from GROWN ASS WOMEN and basically it just sounds like pathetic jealeousy when people try to say that the pops don't matter.  Women pop for LITA.   Women Pop for Jeff.  Hardys get big pops.(sorry Matt, no one really cares that much about you).  

 

And for the RVD/Sabu thing.  The DID take thier offense from them.  Yeah, all of the moves were probably done in wrestling before, but if the do ALL of the moves that RVD/Sabu were doing then they patterned their offense after them.  If you saw thier pre WWF stuff, you know that their offensive move set looked NOTHING like that.  They came to the WWF and for some reason adopted the RVD/Sabu  moveset minus the tables.

[Guest]

To this day, Lita is the only female wrestler I've heard get her name chanted by the arena crowd...without a pejorative add-on like "sucks" or "swallows" as often (and deservedly) accompanies the chants for the "departed" Stephanie.

 

Maybe she should revert back to being Miss Congeniality?

 

Here's my idea:  Turn HER heel on the Hardys ("you've fizzled out. You've gone as far as you can go.  I'm sick of you.  I want a team that can get to the next level.")  Give her the old Miss Congeniality look from ECW days (which put her on my "magically babelicious" list) and a week or so later, The Hardys confront her in the ring, and get on her case.  They tease the beatdown, because Gratuitous Misogyny = Face Pop nowadays (GRRR [except when it's Stephanie]), but the day is saved by her new team, which beats the shit out of the Hardys.  I'm thinking this would be a great way to bring Danny Doring and Roadkill [a team I miss very much, and the last ECW tag team champions, maybe that could be a way to get a tag championship on raw?] into the WWF.

 

Maybe come out with a gag "The band is back together" T-shirt to spoof all the NWO/Kliq nonsense.

 

Personally, I don't think Lita's that bad a wrestler, but if we ABSOLUTELY MUST limit her wrestling (in accordance with Smark Cult Commandment #23 line 2 paragraph A) then making her strictly a manager who shies away from getting physical and "hides behind her boys" might be the way to do it.

 

Oh, and the Hardys keep losing to Doring and Roadkill, in close but no cigar fashion, leading to frustration, and after a while, they start blaming each other, and one turns on the other Rocker style (heck, they're so similar, might as well break them up the same way).

 

Let one of them sit on the sidelines for a while (and learn to cut a promo?) while the other sticks around as a moderately successful heel (unlikely to go far unless they suddenly turn out to be a WICKED~! stick worker after a couple of lessons).  Then in a few months bring the other one back to a large face pop and get the revenge win.

 

Hell, why stop there?  Have Lita -- er, Miss Congeniality -- tease and taunt them and maybe keep playing them off each other, the idea being to try and prevent their reunion because "They could be a threat to us if they ever reunited" or something.

 

But of course eventually even a dummy dumb face can figure out he's being played, and they get back together and come back, now fresh again, and can finally beat Doring & Killer.

[Guest dreamer420]

I like that idea, but unfortunatly I don't think the WWF wouls ever hired Doring and Roadkill.  Could you hear JR doing commmentary and calling all of Doring's moves?

[Guest notJames]

Jeff stole the senton bomb from dick togo...

I thought Togo's senton bomb was more like Bub Buh Ray's "senton that never hits until last week", the kind without the forward flip.

 

I'm only basing this assumption on the limited exposure he got in the Fed and the handful of Michinoku Pro matches I've seen.

 

As for Doring and Roadkill, I could see Roadkill getting over... maybe... but Doring's schtick and overall look are pretty bush league to me. Not to say I don't like him, but I don't see a good future for him in the Fed.

 

I like the whole "Hardyz as hit-and-run deviants" heel gimmick. I don't know how it would play out, but there's too much blandness in a lot of these wrestlers and something like that would be pretty left of centre (right up Jeff's alley)  

[Guest pinnacleofallthingsmanly]

I liked the Hardy Boyz when they were jobbers because their offense was pretty exciting. Matt and Jeff would do tandem stuff but it eventually got to the point where Matt wouldn't venture above the middle rope. At that point, the only thing people liked them for was the TOF, senton bomb and Jeff's bumps. If you ask me Matt is trying to bulk up and get a singles push as a heavyweight because he seems to have abandoned any type of cruiserweight offense.

[Guest nWoScorpion]

Matt HArdy i can live with on TV, but Jeff.......he needs a makeover.....fast! And i dont mean a chuck & Billy type.

[Guest Loss4Words]

I'm a firm believer that the Hardys still have a lot of gas in the tank, but I agree that they do need to make some changes to their images. I think the main problem is that they're so typecast that even the WWF won't let them try to expand. Matt and Jeff tried to work a different style at Vengeance and actually got bitched out and suspended over it. I don't think either of them are main event material at this point, but Raven brainwashing both of them convincing them to turn heel on Lita, thus bringing back Kanyon and reuniting the Flock would be perfect booking here but I'm not holding my breath. If they're not going to turn heel, I really think they should start constructing their matches a little differently. Jeff is the more over team member so I really think he should be clean up guy while Matt plays face-in-peril. Unfortunately, they usually have Matt play cleanup guy, but the truth is that Matt is a better seller and is better at drawing sympathy while Jeff is a better offensive wrestler and highspot artist. I think they work backwards sometimes.

 

A new entrance theme and an actual serious push toward titles couldn't hurt either. The truth is that the tag division is dead because they broke up Edge & Christian, who were the glue that kept the division together. If the Hardyz could either turn heel and get an "agent" (still trying to transition away from managers here) to do their speaking for them or turn face and be allowed to work a more varied style (which they did quite well in OMEGA), then I think they could still be valuable.

 

The Hardyz are just a few of a long list of wrestlers that are victims of bad booking and HHH. HHH squashed Jeff last year and they still haven't recovered from it. Bottom line.

[Guest Cataclysm911]

I don't mind Team Xtreme that much. Sure, they may be stale, but I think that is in large part due to not getting enough ring time. They only have time to hit their spots, then it's "time to go home." The Swanton Bomb is still a good move, and a move that gets people to their feet when they are at the arena. The Twist of Fate is a credible finisher, though not as flashy. The Poetry in Motion is a good idea, that has been hindered thanks in part to an ignorant name. Other than those few spots, the Hardyz never seem to get time to do anything else, because you have to factor in their opponents spots. The Hardyz hardly get time to work. Maybe they should change their names to the Hardlyz?

 

Lita can be very attractive. Like when she was in the hotel w/ Dean Malenko or when she was trying on Lingerie at WWF New York. The problem is, she always looks strung out. She looks like she is on drugs. If she comes out and looks normal, she is really hot. I do think that she is sloppy in the ring though. Then again, most of the WWF women are, so it doesn't really matter.

[Guest nWoScorpion]

If Lita isnt sloppy, she takes dman too long (watch WM X-8) to execute or sell a move. Her moonsault ususally hits the persons feet or misses 2 feet entirely from the opponent, and her Shity-canrana is nothing to brag home aboot. Atleats most WWF women can make up ring talent with looks, but Lita is too butch looking to stand out.