Well, They're Actually Going Through With It

[Guest MikeSC]

Or maybe, just maybe, I AM far more moderate than our more left-leaning members.

 

The left thinks the center is extreme right.

 

News: I AM THE CENTER --- or closer to it than most anybody else. Live it, love it.

-=Mike

How can you be more moderate than the left-wing members? You've described yourself as an ultra-conservative in the past.

When compared to the left today, the center IS ultra-conservative.

How exactly does the left view more moderate conservatives as extreme right? Most of the time they go after the wackos who carry dead fetus signs to abortion clinics.

Hmm, the Republicans want to poison the air, poison the water, starve the poor, deny medicine to the elderly, lynch blacks...

Or the religious nuts who think all gays will burn in Hell. I myself have no problems with conservatives as long as they aren't the talk-radio variety.

Sad thing is, Rush is more moderate than, say, Dean.

It isn't surprising many liberals stereotype conservatives as Limbaugh-esque douchebags. Those are the only ones who are actually heard. In a way, Rush and his ilk hurt conservatives more than helping them.

Hmm, Rush did a lot to help the GOP win Congress in 1994. He saved talk radio from extinction. Yup, he causes more harm than good.

Also, if you're closer to the center than most here, why do so many of your posts focus on negative aspects of the DNC and/or liberals?

Because they make such easy targets. The Dems have had a steady pull to the left since Billy-boy left the White House.

 

I mean, they have NANCY PELOSI as the Minority Leader in the House.

-=Mike

-=Mike

[Guest JMA]

When compared to the left today, the center IS ultra-conservative.

That doesn't really make much sense. Do you have any proof of that statement? Or is it an opinion?

 

Hmm, the Republicans want to poison the air, poison the water, starve the poor, deny medicine to the elderly, lynch blacks...

Not all Republicans are conservative. The same is true for Democrats and liberals. The things you mentioned are mostly said by Democrats. You fail to mention that Republicans do the same thing. It isn't a "black and white" situation.

 

Sad thing is, Rush is more moderate than, say, Dean.

Rush has never EVER shown any traces of being a moderate on ANYTHING. He's a whore. Dean, on the other hand, doesn't always spew the same rhetoric. Tell me how many liberals would endorse the Confederate flag. Not many.

 

Hmm, Rush did a lot to help the GOP win Congress in 1994. He saved talk radio from extinction. Yup, he causes more harm than good.

He enforces a negative stereotype of conservatives and makes them look bad. It doesn't help that he and his ilk drown out the more intelligent conservatives.

 

Because they make such easy targets. The Dems have had a steady pull to the left since Billy-boy left the White House.

Again, the same could be said about the GOP and the right.

 

Remind me how many liberal Republicans there are.

[Vern Gagne 0]

If you'd ever listen to Rush's program, you'd know he's more than willing to criticize the President and Republicans on domestic issues. While over all he supports the President, he's a conservative before he's a Republican.

[Guest MikeSC]

When compared to the left today, the center IS ultra-conservative.

That doesn't really make much sense. Do you have any proof of that statement? Or is it an opinion?

When Nancy Friggin' Pelosi is your leader in the House, you're LEFT --- majorly so.

Hmm, the Republicans want to poison the air, poison the water, starve the poor, deny medicine to the elderly, lynch blacks...

Not all Republicans are conservative.

Ah, so CONSERVATIVES want to poison the air, the water, starve the poor, et al?

The same is true for Democrats and liberals. The things you mentioned are mostly said by Democrats. You fail to mention that Republicans do the same thing. It isn't a "black and white" situation.

The left seldom makes the distinction. I KNOW they didn't when they said a vote for Bush is a vote for more church burnings.

Sad thing is, Rush is more moderate than, say, Dean.

Rush has never EVER shown any traces of being a moderate on ANYTHING.

He's a whore. Dean, on the other hand, doesn't always spew the same rhetoric. Tell me how many liberals would endorse the Confederate flag. Not many.

Well, Rush never supported it. Rush has criticized Bush quite a bit and has no problem criticizing the GOP in the House. He'll bash "his side" when they do wrong, in his eyes.

Hmm, Rush did a lot to help the GOP win Congress in 1994. He saved talk radio from extinction. Yup, he causes more harm than good.

He enforces a negative stereotype of conservatives and makes them look bad.

Honestly, there is NOTHING a conservative could do to look good in the eyes of many on the left --- so they stopped trying. Good for them.

It doesn't help that he and his ilk drown out the more intelligent conservatives.

Thing is, he is actually a fairly bright guy and has better political insights than a lot of the talking heads on TV. He knows more than friggin' James Carville.

Because they make such easy targets. The Dems have had a steady pull to the left since Billy-boy left the White House.

Again, the same could be said about the GOP and the right.

 

Remind me how many liberal Republicans there are.

Chafee. Snowe.

 

That's one more than conservative Democrats.

 

And there aren't many GOP'ers as far to the right as Pelosi is to the left.

-=Mike

...Or the Democrat who claimed that the Arabs hate us and love bin Laden because Osama built schools and we don't.

[Guest JMA]

When Nancy Friggin' Pelosi is your leader in the House, you're LEFT --- majorly so.

I'm not really familiar with her. And I don't really care.

 

Ah, so CONSERVATIVES want to poison the air, the water, starve the poor, et al?

No, they don't.

 

The left seldom makes the distinction. I KNOW they didn't when they said a vote for Bush is a vote for more church burnings.

And the right hasn't made equally moronic comments?

 

Well, Rush never supported it. Rush has criticized Bush quite a bit and has no problem criticizing the GOP in the House. He'll bash "his side" when they do wrong, in his eyes.

If Bush had said the same thing about the Confederate flag, and liberals called him on it, he'd say they were being too politically correct. Count on it.

 

Honestly, there is NOTHING a conservative could do to look good in the eyes of many on the left --- so they stopped trying. Good for them.

Again, the right is no different. They do the SAME THING.

 

Thing is, he is actually a fairly bright guy and has better political insights than a lot of the talking heads on TV. He knows more than friggin' James Carville.

How exactly would you know he knows more than Carville? They've never even been in a debate. Rush doesn't debate anyone. So how can you compare his intelligence to that of other pundits?

 

Chafee. Snowe.

 

That's one more than conservative Democrats.

There are PLENTY of conservative Democrats here in Alabama. They call themselves "Southern Democrats" to distance themselves from liberals. Lieberman is also pretty conservative.

 

Seeing as how I don't want this to turn into a back and forth thing, I'll say my piece now and move on.

 

Anyone (left or right leaning)who loves one side and hates the other is not close to the center. IMO, one closer to the center would respect the different opinions of the other side and not group them together.

[Guest MikeSC]

When Nancy Friggin' Pelosi is your leader in the House, you're LEFT --- majorly so.

I'm not really familiar with her. And I don't really care.

Read up on her. Should the Dems win the House (*shudder*), she'd be the new Speaker.

Ah, so CONSERVATIVES want to poison the air, the water, starve the poor, et al?

No, they don't.

I wish the Dems would mention that once in a while.

The left seldom makes the distinction. I KNOW they didn't when they said a vote for Bush is a vote for more church burnings.

And the right hasn't made equally moronic comments?

NOTHING like that, no.

Well, Rush never supported it. Rush has criticized Bush quite a bit and has no problem criticizing the GOP in the House. He'll bash "his side" when they do wrong, in his eyes.

If Bush had said the same thing about the Confederate flag, and liberals called him on it, he'd say they were being too politically correct. Count on it.

Nope, he probably wouldn't. Rush never cared about the flag, far as I know.

Honestly, there is NOTHING a conservative could do to look good in the eyes of many on the left --- so they stopped trying. Good for them.

Again, the right is no different. They do the SAME THING.

But we don't bitch that any member of the left makes them look worse. I'll bash Moore because he's a tubby tool, but not because he makes the left look bad.

Thing is, he is actually a fairly bright guy and has better political insights than a lot of the talking heads on TV. He knows more than friggin' James Carville.

How exactly would you know he knows more than Carville? They've never even been in a debate. Rush doesn't debate anyone. So how can you compare his intelligence to that of other pundits?

And Carville DOES? Rush actually explains his positions out and does so quite nicely. You are clearly going with stereotypes of his program without having listened to it.

Chafee. Snowe.

 

That's one more than conservative Democrats.

There are PLENTY of conservative Democrats here in Alabama. They call themselves "Southern Democrats" to distance themselves from liberals. Lieberman is also pretty conservative.

Lieberman is whatever his handlers tell him to be that day. He sold out his views in 2000, so he doesn't count for anything anymore.

 

And, on a national stage, the ONLY conservative Democrat who comes to mind is Miller of GA.

Seeing as how I don't want this to turn into a back and forth thing, I'll say my piece now and move on.

 

Anyone (left or right leaning)who loves one side and hates the other is not close to the center. IMO, one closer to the center would respect the different opinions of the other side and not group them together.

If one side is wrong on an issue --- or a host of them --- it's not unfair to point it out.

-=Mike

[Guest JMA]

NOTHING like that, no.

It wasn't moronic when Coulter said she wished Tim McVey had bombed the NY Times building? C'mon, the right has said plenty of moronic things. I can find transcripts if you doubt this. But again, the pundits who say these things are fanatics and whores to their ideology.

 

And Rush loves Coulter, too.

[Guest Wildbomb 4:20]

Read up on her. Should the Dems win the House (*shudder*), she'd be the new Speaker.

 

Hell, I'm a liberal and I shudder when I hear her name. (Holy shit, Mike and I agree on something! The world is ending)

 

I wish the Dems would mention that once in a while.

 

The Democrats are referring to the acts implemented by this Administration that has relaxed the standards of clean air for power stations in the Midwest, something that was fought extremely hard for during the Clinton years. I live in the Northeast, and am affected by this change, and don't like the fact that my air is now dirtier, which is in part caused by the Republicans.

 

It's overgeneralized, yes. But it is based on the fact that policy changes by the Bush Administration have had an adverse effect on the environment.

 

Anyone remember the oil pipeline from Alaska?

 

NOTHING like that, no.

 

"Did you know there's a White House dog?" *holds up a picture of Chelsea Clinton*

-Rush Limbaugh

 

Anyways.

 

Nope, he probably wouldn't. Rush never cared about the flag, far as I know.

 

I don't know if he did or didn't care. Better off asking kkk.

 

But we don't bitch that any member of the left makes them look worse. I'll bash Moore because he's a tubby tool, but not because he makes the left look bad.

 

What about Moore's right-wing counterpart, Ann Coulter? I despise them both on account of their want for their own beliefs to become revisionist history, and just plain stupidity.

 

And Carville DOES? Rush actually explains his positions out and does so quite nicely. You are clearly going with stereotypes of his program without having listened to it.

 

Rush has gotten far better than his fantastically bullshit TV days. And no, I'm not talking about ESPN. He still manages to come out with gems though, such as this one when a liberal caller tried to criticize Rush for hypocrisy on his stance on Whitewater and Bush's Harken Oil stock sale:

 

"Everybody knows that Bill Clinton was corrupt, everybody knows that Bill Clinton was a lying, scheming SOB, everybody knows Bill CLinton violated the law, he was held in contempt of court. Everybody knows that he was having BJs given to him in the Oval Office by an intern while 19 rangers and Delta Force members were dying in Somalia. Now if you want to campare him to Bush, you go right ahead..."

 

Too bad that the blowjobs were in 1995, and Somalia ended in 1993, the same year Clinton took office. Sure, Clinton wasn't perfect. At least get the FACTS right.

 

Lieberman is whatever his handlers tell him to be that day. He sold out his views in 2000, so he doesn't count for anything anymore.

 

And, on a national stage, the ONLY conservative Democrat who comes to mind is Miller of GA.

 

I. Hate. Lieberman.

And I don't know too many truly conservative Democrats

 

If one side is wrong on an issue --- or a host of them --- it's not unfair to point it out.

 

True. But also try to show when both sides are wrong.

[Guest Cerebus]

And Rush loves Coulter, too.

He loves doughnuts and painkillers too. What does THAT tell you?

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

"Did you know there's a White House dog?" *holds up a picture of Chelsea Clinton*

-Rush Limbaugh

 

Anyways.

 

And just for the record, Rush got blasted, and rightly so, for doing that stunt on his TV show. He apologized shortly thereafter. Oh, wait. All of his listeners stood in line and cheered. My bad.

 

Nope, he probably wouldn't. Rush never cared about the flag, far as I know.

 

I don't know if he did or didn't care. Better off asking kkk.

 

Sadly, I wasn't listening to him at the time of the great Confederate Flag debate. Although yesterday he was talking about how his bum chum Newt Gingrich was at odds with him over this retarded Medicare drug bill...