Bored 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2003 (edited) Believe it or not the bowl season starts on Tuesday so figured it was time to start this thread. Obviously there will probably be a desire to have solo threads for the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl when those games are played but I think one thread will do for talking about the rest of the bowls. Oh and let's see if we can keep this thread from turning into another Oklahoma against the World thread for at least a little while, okay? Here is the complete television schedule for the bowl season. Tuesday, December 16 New Orleans Bowl: Memphis 27, North Texas 17 Thursday, December 18 GMAC Bowl: Miami of Ohio 49, Louisville 28 Monday, December 22 Tangerine Bowl: N.C. State 56, Kansas 26 Tuesday, December 23 Ft. Worth Bowl: Boise State 34, TCU 31 Wednesday, December 24 Las Vegas Bowl: Oregon State 55, New Mexico 14 Thursday, December 25 Hawaii Bowl: Hawaii 54, Houston 48 Friday, December 26 Motor City Bowl: Bowling Green 28, Northwestern 24 Insight Bowl: California 52, Virginia Tech 49 Saturday, December 27 Continental Tire Bowl: Virginia 23, Pittsburgh 16 Monday, December 29 Alamo Bowl: Nebraska 17, Michigan State 3 Tuesday, December 30 Houston Bowl: Texas Tech 38, Navy 14 Holiday Bowl: Washington State 28, Texas 20 Silicon Valley Bowl: Fresno State 17, UCLA 9 Wednesday, December 31 Music City Bowl: Auburn 28, Wisconsin 14 Sun Bowl: Minnesota 31, Oregon 30 Liberty Bowl: Utah 17, Southern Miss 0 Independence Bowl: Arkansas 27, Missouri 14 San Francisco Bowl: Boston College 35, Colorado State 21 Thursday, January 1 Outback Bowl: Iowa 37, Florida 17 Gator Bowl: Maryland 41, West Virginia 7 Capital One Bowl: Georgia 34, Purdue 27 Rose Bowl: USC 28, Michigan 14 Orange Bowl: Miami 16, Florida State 14 Friday, January 2 Cotton Bowl: Mississippi 31, Oklahoma State 28 Peach Bowl: Clemson 27, Tennessee 14 Fiesta Bowl: Ohio State 35, Kansas State 28 Saturday, January 3 Humanitarian Bowl: Georgia Tech vs. Tulsa, 12:00 PM EST/9:00 AM PST, ESPN Sunday, January 4 Sugar Bowl: #2 LSU vs. #1 Oklahoma, 8:00 PM EST/5:00 PM PST, ABC Edited January 3, 2004 by Bored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2003 North Texas has a good RB in Patrick Cobbs. Who may of lead the nation in yards per game. First bowl game for Memphis since the 1971 Pasdena Bowl. I'd except both teams to be fired up. Should be a close game, but I think North Texas is a slightly better team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2003 Oklahoma will take on the whole world! And win! As long as K-State isn't included in the world..........*sneaks out* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2003 I think the game I'm most interested to see in the pre-New Year's block is actually Navy/Texas Tech. One team that's huge passing, one team that's huge running, and two teams that probably wouldn't ever meet otherwise. That's a bowl game right there. In the end, I think Texas Tech is going to take it since I'm not sure Navy can put up the 40 points or so they'll need to win the shoot-out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King Kamala 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2003 I'm looking forward to the San Francisco Bowl since my hometown's hero Quentin Porter is the starting quarterback for Boston College. Besides football in Pac Bell is going to look fucking cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ANKLELOCK 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2003 I have yet, in all honesty, to see Dama make a post that was NOT OU related. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 I have yet, in all honesty, to see Dama make a post that was NOT OU related. Go to another forum. Or read a post I make in an NFL thread. See I wouldn't make so many if I didn't have assholes like you following me to every thread jumping on my back about OU. Maybe you should back off and then I'l back off. Bored said he didn't want this to become an OU thread. I just made a joke about it. But I was going to leave it at that. It should've been left at that. But no you had to be a jerk and follow me in here and start changing the threads topic. This is Bored's thread. If you wanna be an asshole then PM me or IM me. Anyways back to the thread. I am of course looking forward to the Sugar Bowl. But I am also looking forward to the Fiesta Bowl. I think that K-State has a good chance at putting Ohio State through the ringer. If they can play defense like they did against OU and get Darren Sproles moving then I think that Ohio State will have trouble keeping up. K-State's a different team than the one that lost 3 games earlier this year. Plus after becoming Big XII champions they will probably have even more desire and drive to prove themselves to America so that they can start high on the rankings next semester. K-State's coming to play and play hard....and I don't know if Ohio State will be able to stop them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 No DeAngelo Williams for Memphis. I'm guessing Ben Roethisberger will play is last game of his college career Thursday night. If you want points checkout the Hawaii Bowl between Hawaii and Houston. Houston led by true freshmen QB Chris Kolb, and Hawaii lead by the underachieving Timmy Chang. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 16, 2003 Here is the Keys to the 2003 New Orleans Bowl from collegefootballnews.com 1. Ich Ein ‘Booger’ – The hulking defensive tackle…well, maybe hulking is not quite the word, more like the ‘lowrider’ – Brandon ‘Booger’ Kennedy has been a force playing the one or three technique for the Mean Green defense for the past three years. The 5’10” 312 lb Kennedy registered a team high 17 tackles for a loss and six sacks, helping him garner player of the year honors in the Sun Belt Conference in 2003. Kennedy, the brother of Broncos safety Kenoy Kennedy, is so difficult to block due to his stout nature. Typically, defensive tackles can be slowed through a good zone blocking or double team scheme, but Kennedy’s leverage prevents most teams from doubling him, effectively. He is able to ‘split’ the double team as 6’3” and 6’4” guards, centers and tackles attempt, with little success, to play lower in their stances to get ‘underneath’ Kennedy to get some movement. Memphis’ offensive line, led by Jeremy Rone and Gene Frederic, third team all CUSA offensive linemen, will have their hands full with Kennedy, in his last game as a Mean Greenie (what is the singular of Mean Green???) The Tigers offensive line, as a unit has been solid, helping the CUSA offensive player of the year, DeAngelo Williams, become the fifth leading rusher in the entire country. However, Williams tore his knee against Cincinnati, but is ably replaced by Derron Parquet, who riddled South Florida for 164 yards. Parquet, like Williams, is quick as a hiccup, and makes his line look very good with his vision, quickness and cutback ability. Thus, Kennedy has to lock up at least two linemen up front, not getting driven off the ball on the double team or pushed past the hole for Parquet to cutback behind Kennedy. Kennedy can and should dominate up front, but if he does not get tackling help from his linebackers – defensive player of the year Chris Hurd, Taylor Casey and Cody Spencer - Parquet will run wild. 2. P Diddy Cobbs – Quick, name the leading rusher in the nation in 2003. Sproles? Nope, good guess though. Perry? Again, nice try…but no. K. Jones? Uhhh…no. How about the Mean Green’s RB Patrick Cobbs? Very nice…took you long enough. Cobbs averaged 157 yards a game to…wait, one hundred fifty seven a game??? That is a staggering number, but not too surprising when you look at the conservative nature of the Mean Green’s offense, in particular, quarterback Scott Hall, a poor man’s Darrell Bevell (think Wisconsin 1993). Cobbs averages 25 more yards per game rushing by himself than Hall, the first team all Sun Belt quarterback, does throwing the football! Hall can throw the football effectively, if not efficiently, but Cobbs has been so incredible that he has been fed the ball throughout the year. So, in New Orleans, expect Cobbs to…not get the ball. WHA??? All year long, the Mean Green has relied on Cobbs to pound and pound and pound, but Memphis is only giving up 109 yards per game on the ground, led by linebackers Coot Terry, Derrick Ballard and Will Hyden, the Tigers’ leading tackler, and defensive tackles Eric Taylor and Albert Means (glad to see this kid has found a home after the Alabama fiasco). Plus, the Tigers know that Cobbs can destroy them, so their sole focus is going to be on stopping Cobbs – sending safeties flying to the LOS on run action, slanting linemen up front, and keying on Cobbs’ every move. Thus, Hall can use Cobbs as a decoy in play action to try to go deep on the Tigers secondary, utilizing talented redshirt freshman Johnny Quinn, averaging 22 yards per catch, to get behind the Tigers’ secondary. Cobbs has to get his carries, but using him in play action, off zone stretch or iso blast action, to draw pursuit and secondary run support, can get Quinn wide open deep down the field. 3. No whining about Wimprine – The Tigers’ QB Danny Wimprine started the year like a house o’ fire, throwing for 390 yards two weeks in a row against Tennessee Tech and Ole Miss, but finished the year doing his best Ryan Leaf impersonation (San Diego, not Washington State). He threw seven interceptions in his last two games, a win over Cincinnati and an unexpected loss to South Florida. Throughout the four game stretch prior to the Cincinnati game, Wimprine had been on some kind of roll, throwing nary an interception. Combined with the brilliant performances of DeAngelo Williams, Wimprine and the Tiger offense put up an average of 41 points a game during that stretch! However, as the season wore down, defenses focused on stopping the run, stopping Williams, putting the pressure on Wimprine to throw effectively to beat them. Now, Williams is out for the season and all of the pressure of this offense falls squarely in Wimprine’s hands. The Mean Green defense is similar to South Florida’s defense, in that they are very quick and disciplined, however, USF’s secondary is a typical Florida secondary – fast and physical. North Texas’ secondary, on the other hand, is giving up 217 yards per game, the 53rd ranked pass defense in the country. Wimprine has two good receivers, Darron White and Maurice Avery, that must take advantage of a less than average secondary. Avery, in particular, is going to be key for Wimprine as he should return to the lineup after missing the last two games of the season with an MCL injury. Wimprine is no Philip Rivers, but he is no Brock Berlin, either. Conclusion: The loss of Williams, on the surface, seemed to be the death knell for the Tigers, but Derron Parquet showed with a 164 yard performance against South Florida that he is just as effective as the CUSA offensive player of the year. North Texas has one of the best run defenses in the country, but they are suspect in the secondary. If Danny Wimprine can avoid turning the ball over as he had in the last two games of the year, the Tigers should be able to put points on the board. Keep an eye on the looks that North Texas throws as Wimprine to take advantage of his propensity of turning the ball over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Der Kommissar 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Well, I turned on the New Orleans Bowl. This has been some good stuff so far. I really like North Texas' offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Cobbs scooted through for a 26 yard TD, 17-10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 god damn....what a rocket thrown unfortunately it gets tipped. Thrown roughly 55 yards in the air Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Well despite the loss, I think North Texas is a growing program. Possibily in a few years, they'll make the jump up to the WAC, or Conference USA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2003 Well despite the loss, I think North Texas is a growing program. Possibily in a few years, they'll make the jump up to the WAC, or Conference USA. Considering how most of the conferences were just shredded, I wouldn't be shocked if they could jump into the Big East at this point. Conference USA or WAC are fine choices, cept the WAC gets less respect than any conference in sports. C-USA would be a great move for them and if they keep rising, I think you are right on with the advancement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Louisville/ Miami (Ohio) Watch Ben Roethlisberger one last time in a Redhawk uniform. IMO...he's leaving for the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Louisville/ Miami (Ohio) Watch Ben Roethlisberger one last time in a Redhawk uniform. IMO...he's leaving for the NFL. Is anyone even giving Louisville a chance? Remember.....the teams that have nothing to lose and everything to gain are the most dangerous........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2003 Louisville/ Miami (Ohio) Watch Ben Roethlisberger one last time in a Redhawk uniform. IMO...he's leaving for the NFL. Is anyone even giving Louisville a chance? Remember.....the teams that have nothing to lose and everything to gain are the most dangerous........ I don't think anyone is expecting them to get blown out of the water and yes, I think they have a damn good chance of winning. But I just think Miami (OH) and the MAC has more to prove than Louisville. The MAC is trying to get any respect they can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2003 Ben Roethlisberger referred to his college career in past tense after the game so I'd assume he's going to the NFL as expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2003 Ben Roethlisberger referred to his college career in past tense after the game so I'd assume he's going to the NFL as expected. I had never seen him play but........I was god damn impressed with this kid. Great passer. He should go to San Fransico. They love the pass happy game.....plus I hate Garcia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2003 Damn I just read the schedule again. I gotta work during the Rose Bowl and the Cotton Bowl(2 games I want to see)......well........guess I'm going to have to try the old "Tape it and avoid the score at all costs" technique. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2003 Oh........since this is the most active college football thread..........Jason White just announced he's returning to the Sooners next year! WHOO! We have the same team as this year.....with more experience! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2003 Could have posted in the original college football topic since it has nothing to do with the bowls. Anyways...to keep on topic here's a little useless bowl fact. The Tangerine Bowl is on Monday and the game is only 13 years old but it has under gone four name changes. First it was the Blockbuster Bowl (as in Blockbuster Video), then the Carquest Bowl, then the Micron PC Bowl, and finally settling on the non-corporate Tangerine name. Blockbuster Bowl (1990-1993) 12/28/90 Florida State 24, Penn State 17 12/28/91 Alabama 30, Colorado 25 1/1/93 Stanford 24, Penn State 3 Carquest Bowl (1994-1997) 1/1/94 Boston College 31, Virginia 13 1/2/95 South Carolina 24, West Virginia 21 12/30/95 North Carolina 20, Arkansas 10 12/27/96 Miami 31, Virginia 21 12/29/97 Georgia Tech 35, West Virginia 30 Micron PC Bowl (1998-2000) 12/29/98 Miami 46, N.C. State 23 12/30/99 Illinois 62, Virginia 21 12/28/00 N.C. State 38, Minnesota 30 Tangerine Bowl (2001-present) 12/20/01 Pittsburgh 34, N.C. State 19 12/23/02 Texas Tech 55, Clemson 15 And there is your Tangerine Bowl history lesson...not that anyone cares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2003 Eh....it still has something to do with a Bowl....it means OU is going to a bowl next year! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Whoo! Time to watch Me and Dam get our Kansas pick wrong, heh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 NC State strikes, 45 yard TD throw to Washington Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Not to say you guys were wrong or anything...but NC State just scored 1:02 into the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 This could turn into a shoot out since NC State has the 2nd worse pass D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Kansas down to the NC State 40 and putting together a solid drive Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 TD for Kansas, 7-7 already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Man, this NC State pass defense sucks. Why wasn't I informed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
