Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 God dammit. OU started playing football in the 4th quarter. They started playing like OU in the 4th fucking quarter. And for that......they DESERVE to lose. They had a great season but they couldn't get the job done in the post season. They got out played by Kansas State and they got out played by LSU. The right team won. I love my Sooners but you know...this just wasn't their year. They may get a shot next year or they may not. Three deserving teams went in here, there should be only room for one. But there turned out to be room for 2. And I hate to say it....but OU just wasn't one of those 2. I just don't understand how a team goes out their and has the best season EVER and then goes and spectacuarly fucks it up in the post season. It just doesn't make sense. I guess White proved he's not a big game QB. I hope he can fix that. If not...you should've never came back...b/c you'll screw us up in the post season again. Ah hell I'm rambling. OU brought what they brought in the season in the 4th quarter. They should've brought it the whole game. But they didn't. And for that they deserved the loss. I love you OU...but good job LSU. Kudos' LSU you deserve that title. Enjoy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Damaramu, now isn't OU overrated? Yes they proved that they can do it in the season. But in the post season they can't handle the pressure and they lose the game. They were definetly overrated. They were a great seasonal team...but the greatest team ever doesn't crack in the post season. Like I said. OU started playing good in the 4th quarter. But they couldn't get the job done in the previous 4 quarters. And like I said. Good job LSU. You deserve that title. You did it. You proved yourselves as the best. God I feel sick over this...but not as bad as the KSU game. B/c there I thought it was a fluke and OU could do it better. But this game proved that I was wrong. There was no fluke. OU is very good. But they are very routine and if you have to correct strategy you can beat the shit out of them. But OU put up a good fight. It was a crappy 1st half but the second half was just plain awesome. OU played well in the 4th quarter. But LSU played well in the entire game. I think it was funny that once OU's defense came alive LSU couldn't do much against them. I wonder why they decided to come alive at the end? And there offense....I don't know what the fuck to say....it never came alive. There was a glimmer of life at one point....but it went away. I still blame Jason White. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 The O-Line played a horrible game. The one thing OU should of done on that last drive is run the ball. They where starting to have success, and with 2 minutes left and the ball at the 50 it wasn't that big a risk. I will however go back to what I said earlier. Oklahoma's offensive talent overachieved this year. It's not horrible, but it doesn't really have any superstars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 OU is having a press conference on the local news channel. Jason White's excuse: "We flat out got beat" Stoops: "They played better football" "We missed to many tackles" "We committed to many penalties" No excuses. He admits they lost. Well my team lost the NCAA championship. *sigh* Maybe my team(s) can win the Super Bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 LSU's defense was outstanding. They essentially scored 14 of LSU's 21 points. I was at least hoping OU could of gotten the ball down inside the red zone at the end of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Stoops also said: "The coaching was flawed. We made some horrible decisions." I will not listen to anybody that says "OU sucks". OU does not suck. They are the 3rd best team in the country. LSU and USC are better this year. Next year...we'll find out. Who knows...this year 3 teams that didn't even sniff the championship last year were battling over the championship. Next year it could be 2 new teams. Who knows.....someone else can come out! Our title game could be Kansas State vs. Miami! You never know. That's what makes college football so awesome. It changes every season. But still.........OU lost. They flat out got out played and out coached. They admit it. I admit it. They played poorly and LSU proved why they were better. Close game at the end. But LSU wouldn't have scored so many if OU had been playing defense like they did in that second half. Well.....is that an excuse though? Hell no! They are the 3rd best team in the country. I guess when there's 117 teams there's no shame in being 3rd. Ah dammit.....I'm still dissapointed. But I think they should've given their backup QB a chance. He throws about as good as White from what I understand and is 10x more mobile than White. Stoops looks dissapointed but he is giving LSU the props they deserve. OU finishes the season as a very good team. The 3rd best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 BTW I'm trying to take this defeat as graciously as possible. I'm doing everything in my power to restrain myself from going and killing every one of those guys that missed a tackle and resisting bitch slapping Jason White for playing like a damn high schooler. But Derrick Strait did a good job.......he was pretty much playing one man defense. Everything that was said about defense was about him. Dammit.........still angry at them.......well I still love them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Does anyone think that if OU had played like they did in the 4th quarter the whole game they might've won? I think they would've had a better shot.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Ray Ratto of ESPN.com and the San Francisco Chronicle has some humerous suggestions for changing the BCS. So the Bowl Championship Series performed as expected -- inadequately -- and we are left with the surprisingly agreeable result of a split championship. But the people who defend the BCS (largely drunkards, rounders, madmen and athletic directors) say the system needs just a little tweak to become the perfect instrument of college football supremacy that ABC is paying for it to be. Well, they're right, but the tweaking they have in mind doesn't address the right area. The problem isn't in the math, or in the extrapolation of the numbers. It's in the polls. The BCS uses the wrong ones. With one exception, that is. The Associated Press poll, voted on by sportswriters, remains the gold standard for in-your-underwear voting, because of three indisputable truths. Sportswriters are inherently brighter, kinder and just all-around better people. A sportswriter's poll is not actually filled out by a sports information director. Enough sportswriters vote in the AP poll to spread the bias relatively evenly. But the other polls need work. Well, actually, they need large-scale replacing. And while you all know why the other polls have their flaws, we can name the polls the BCS ought to use to legitimize their inherent illegitimacy. THE WEEKLY WORLD NEWS TOP 25: It would replace The New York Times poll, which keeps trying to slip Notre Dame past us when it thinks we're not watching. The WWN poll, on the other hand, does not blindly use a computer to make its news, but staff writers who live under porches and look increasingly like Gollum the longer they work there. The advantage is that schools who recruit aliens, 375-pound babies, three-headed nuns and linebackers made entirely of cheese will finally become part of the process, a badly needed act of both inclusion and diversity. Problem: Neptune A&M and Louisiana-Ninth Circle Of Hell are Division 1-AA schools. THE "QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT GUY" TOP 25: In which the Fab Five -- Sneezy, Blitzen, Jeckle, Nostradamus and Shemp, or whatever the hell they're called -- will vote weekly on the teams with the best uniforms, dreadlocks, cornrows, tats and use of eye-black. Problem: Miami's orange and green color scheme essentially eliminates them in August, while teams willing to dress in mauves and taupes will have inherent advantages. STEPHEN HAWKING'S MASTER LIST: Look, you want a super-bright bookworm, get the best. The man wrote coherently about time and space, so how hard is it to separate Kansas and Kansas State? Problem: Oxford and MIT could sneak into the poll the way Notre Dame does in the Times' poll. THE DEGENERATE GAMBLERS TOP 25: Replacing the coaches, who have other things on their minds, the gamblers pay attention every day to every team because, well, because they have to. Problem: Rutgers covered each of the first nine weeks, which would put them in the BCS title game, and America just isn't ready for that yet. THE SPORTS INFORMATION DIRECTORS TOP 25: Why take away the one bit of fun they have every week? Problem: Some SIDs are just too busy and will delegate their vote to the head coach. LEE CORSO NAKED, STANDING ON THE ROOF OF A 7-11 AND SCREAMING AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS TOP 25: A devoted follower of the game who knows what he sees. Problem: Convincing him to vote only once a week. THE "LAW & ORDER: SVU" TOP 25: In which Benson, Stabler, Munch and Tutuola vote each week on the teams who use crime-scene-tape yellow as one of the school colors. Problem: Too many schools to pay attention to at one time. THE HALFTIME SHOW PARTICIPANTS TOP 25: Just to see if Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson could identify 25 schools. Problem: The days spent waiting for them to get to 25. THE SOUTHERN LIVING TOP 25: As every available school races toward the Cuba end of the map trying to get into the ACC, natives who know that Saturday isn't just for NASCAR 200-mile prelims will be conscientious and serious voters. Problem: Washington State, Boise State and The Not Really Miami are so screwed. THE VIEW TOP 25 POLL: Gotta be cute, gotta be buff, gotta have a movie to promote to get the panel interested. Problem: Barbara Walters is likely to vote every week for Oklahoma A&M, even if it is now known as Oklahoma State. THE NBC POLL: Notre Dame is No. 1 every week as you might figure, so being No. 2 means a lot more than it did even this year. Problem: Notre Dame will also be Nos. 2, 3, 5, 7 and 12. And finally ... THE NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION TOP 25: In which professors across the country vote on the teams whose athletes attend class, turn in assignments, achieve good grades, and are all-around swell folks. Problem: What are you, high? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 (edited) As mentioned in the Who's #1 thread, USC has been voted #1 in the final AP Poll and LSU in the Coaches Poll. Ya I know not really news but what some were looking for is how many coaches broke ranks in the coaches poll? The answer was...three. No word who the other two besides Pete Carroll were. Oh and here's the final AP Poll: 1. USC 2. LSU 3. Oklahoma 4. Ohio State 5. Miami 6. Michigan 7. Georgia 8. Iowa 9. Washington State 10. Miami of Ohio 11. Florida State 12. Texas 13. Mississippi 14. Kansas State 15. Tennessee 16. Boise State 17. Maryland 18. Purdue 19. Nebraska 20. Minnesota 21. Utah 22. Clemson 23. Bowling Green 24. Florida 25. TCU Other receiving votes 26. Oklahoma State 27. Arkansas 28. Virginia 29. Northern Illinois 30t. Auburn 30t. Oregon State 32t. Pittsburgh 32t. N.C. State 34. West Virginia 35. Connecticut Edited January 5, 2004 by Bored Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Dama I'm not saying OU isn't a good team, they just didn't deserve to be there as we saw. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Dama I'm not saying OU isn't a good team, they just didn't deserve to be there as we saw. And I'm not disputing that. They proved that tonight. I thought they did before this game. They however didn't. If they had played that whole game like they did the 4th quarter then they might've one and there case could be made. But as of right now they have no case and they won't have a case until next season. And I remember Caroll saying he doesn't vote in the coaches poll........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 The Lee Corso voting suggestion would so rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 "23. Bowling Green" Hooray! Top 25 goodness. Two MAC teams in the top 25 (three in the top 30) WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Oh yeah...........why the hell wasn't Jason White taken out of the game!? I was just thinking more about it. That guy was visibly in pain! He was limping and he could barely throw a football! They had nothing to lose if they put the backup in! Hell he's more mobile than White and might've been able to establish a running game! Jesus........the thing that sucks the most it that OU could've won that game. But they made so many stupid mistakes it was just absurd. I have never seen a team that is so good just fuck it up in their last 2 games like that. It's like "I know I can play better than this...but I'm going to play like shit." They played like dumbasses and they got slammed for it. They made stupid mistakes that shouldn't have been made and they paid for it. You can't do that against an LSU or a USC. *puts face in hands* God dammit......I can't believe they did that....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 5, 2004 Also....just a thought. I think that with the way OU was playing in that first half last night that they would've gotten whooped up on by any of the top 10 teams. Anyone agree with that? Or do you think that LSU and USC would be the only 2 to really pound them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 I would think LSU and USC would be the only teams to really beat OU. Because OU's defense did hold up fairly well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Well...Kansas State pounded them worse... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 And I remember Caroll saying he doesn't vote in the coaches poll........ Honestly, Carrol doesn't seem like he'd break ranks. Even if it's his own school he's voting against. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 I would think LSU and USC would be the only teams to really beat OU. Because OU's defense did hold up fairly well. Yeah LSU didn't get one first down in the second half. So yeah...the defense held up very well. It was the offense that played like shit. I think that they would've beaten any other team in the BCS bowls. Yes even K-State. That game is going to be an absolute barn burner next year. I can't believe it's not in Norman, I ain't going to Kansas to watch it. But yeah if Stoops follows his pattern he started this year of humiliating teams that beat him the previous year(A&M and OU) then KSU will have a long saturday next season. But anyways yes the OU defense played like OU's defense in that second half. The offense played like.....well a shitty team. If you came from another planet and saw only this game you'd think "Wow that team has a great defense. They'd really be something special if they had a good offense. What!? This is for the national title!? How'd they make it this far with that offense!?" And I'd have to answer with "No clue. The offense is usually better than this." Then again Stoops admitted that LSU is the best defense he's played since taking over the reigns at OU. Oh and......Carrol said that he doesn't vote in the Coaches poll. He said "I'm glad I don't vote in that poll. I'd hate having to vote against my team." Carrol's a good guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Agent 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 OU could have won if they would have tried the running game more than the failed passing. Oh and if White would have made a mad dash for it when he had nowhere to throw... dumbass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites