Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I don't follow Puro at all just about, but Ultimo losing the mask is like Jushin Liger going maskless and pissing on his career with that character. I just can't see it happening. I've seen the picture of Ultimo back in the day w/o his mask, and why Vince wants to market that face on T.V. is beyond me. Obviously, King Cucaracha doesn't understand how important a mask is to people outside the United States wrestling scene, a.k.a circus o' roided freaks. Like I said in other topics, arguing over someones opinions is like arguing with a wall. No matter how much you argue, or prove your point the other person will rebutt and argue back with his points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.B. Buzzkill 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Yeah he is pretty damn ugly. I love the guy, but he looks like somebody shoved his grill in a boiling pot of lobsters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Ah if only Ultimo was reading this... No, Ultimo! Don't do it, its not worth it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatMuta Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I'm a big Ultimo fan, and I would rather him keep his mask than see this. . . . . . . . . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Hmm, do the people (person) who says Dragon going maskless is a good thing - did you think Dragon would have gotten a big push when he first debuted??? Putting your faith in Vince McMahon to do the right thing for Dragon - it's just stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I'm a big Ultimo fan, and I would rather him keep his mask than see this. . . . . . . . . . . BASTARD!!!! When was that picture anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I'm a big Ultimo fan, and I would rather him keep his mask than see this. . . . . . . . . . . And he's ugly compared to who? I don't watch wrestling to check out dudes....like you clearly seem to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatMuta Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Hmm, do the people (person) who says Dragon going maskless is a good thing - did you think Dragon would have gotten a big push when he first debuted??? Putting your faith in Vince McMahon to do the right thing for Dragon - it's just stupid. Are you kidding Ultimo Got the most famous push of all. Here's Ultimo on Smackdown. Rey: He's a future contender Cole: He's held a lot of belts, and look at his in ring style, impressive! Tazz: Wow the match is over, and look at Rey go shake his hand. And that was his mighty push. Now he's teaming up with the most bland cruiserweight ever on Velocity Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Hmm, I see your point. I have been silenced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I'm not as familier with masks in Japan as I am in Mexico. Is it just as big a deal over there as it is down south of the border? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.B. Buzzkill 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Damnit GM, did you *have* to post that pic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I'm not as familier with masks in Japan as I am in Mexico. Is it just as big a deal over there as it is down south of the border? I'm sure that they aren't THAT obsessed in the land of the rising sun, but they still respect wrestling traditions like in Mexico. Not like the Circus promotions with Roided Monsters. Has Hayabusa every unmasked after a stipulation, and wore it again in the same place? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 What in the world is wrong with the picture? Oh my God, it's a Japanese dude without a mask on, ewwwwwwwwwwww! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted December 22, 2003 What in the fuck is wrong with the picture? Oh my God, it's a Japanese dude without a mask on, ewwwwwwwwwwww! I just think the point is how do you market that look? With the mask he has the cool presence of his shiny ring attire and dragon-esque look. Without hes just another japanese guy along with Tajiri, Akio, Sakoda, Funaki, and any others I forgot. And one "Mask v. Whatever" match happened 6 months ago, and Kane still hasn't gotten the title in his UBER-PUSH. What makes anyone think Ultimo will get any kind of push? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wildpegasus Report post Posted December 22, 2003 (edited) If WWE force Ultimo Dragon to remove his mask, I will never watch their programming again. I said the same thing when Mr. Perfect beat Kerry Von Erich for the title by cheating and when Bigelow slipped on a bannana peal in the Survivor Series. And I'm still here as that only lasted for a few months or so. Just when you think you're out, you get pulled right back in. Curse Benoit. Curse Eddie. Why couldn't you have just stayed in Japan? Why? Why? Why? Why? ****Cries**** -----Was able to avoid most of the horrendous Attitude era---- What's wrong with Perfect beating Von Erich? Von Erich was about 2 years away from suicide anyway. I was just sick of unclean endings and the sideshow attractions during matches. All I wanted back them was clean cut finishes and loses. As a matter of fact, I still do. Edited December 22, 2003 by wildpegasus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I'm not saying I like the idea of him loosing the mask, I hate it with all of my being just as most others here do. I'm just currious why some here have acted like him without a mask in that picture is vomit inducing, that's all. I still can't believe that they have use Ultimo Dragon at all really. I mean...it's Ultimo Dragon, I just don't understand it at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I still can't believe that they have use Ultimo Dragon at all really. I mean...it's Ultimo Dragon, I just don't understand it at all. "Well Ultimo, for Smackdown, after factoring in my two segments, two segments with Morgan and Jones, two segments with Sable, two segments with Torrie, and two segments with people who aren't you, we've just decided there's not enough time on Smackdown for you" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 You don't understand how Ultimo "I-keep-getting-pops-despite-not-being-in-a-storyline-ever" Dragon doesn't have anything to do in the WWE?? ... Yeah, me either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Well, that's pretty much true. But, to me Ultimo Dragon is a Pro. Wrestling legend. Not just some chump off the streets from another fed, but a living legend. They gave him a great buildup, a one night of what looked like MIGHT be the START of a push, but they just ceased what they were doing right then and there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted December 22, 2003 He's 1 of a few reasons I rarely watch Velocity. The other is Sean O'Haire, and to see anything from SD I wanted to tape but didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I didn't find Dragons build-up to be very good. It seemed like a cheap imitation of Rey's from the year previous. You could pretty-much-well-tell by his opening theme that he was doomed (Standard Japanese Music, "dragon" sounds *shudders*) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Any smark who has faith in Vince to do the right thing with a cruiserweight needs to have their smark credentials re-examined And before anyone brings up ReyRey, I have two words: Stretcher to ringpost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I didn't find Dragons build-up to be very good. It seemed like a cheap imitation of Rey's from the year previous. You could pretty-much-well-tell by his opening theme that he was doomed (Standard Japanese Music, "dragon" sounds *shudders*) Touche. But still, he got a hell of a lot more than I even thought he'd get when I first heard he was coming into the group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Although his entrance does fucking rock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Yeah, I really love his entrance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 I like the fire in Dragons entrance and that's about it... and really, that's only because I am a bit of a pyromaniac... FIRE! FIRE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 You can never go wrong with fire...unless you're Kane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest croweater Report post Posted December 22, 2003 **Grabs shotgun from cupboard** It's time to end The MacMahon reign FOREVER. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Downhome 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2003 Every time news comes out that anyone dislikes, it's all "omg let's end WWE, it's over, the federation is dead forever". I like reading stuff like that, it humors me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Disbadger Report post Posted December 22, 2003 omg let's end WWE, it's over, the federation is dead forever. You're welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
