Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Get your logic out of the college football thread. Although...Then we would have had USC vs. Oklahoma (#1 in the stupid BCS rankings) and LSU would have gotten screwed. You really just need COMMON SENSE. Outside of Oklahoma fans...pretty much everyone knew before the bowls started that the crock of shit was that the game wasn't USC vs. LSU. And look...here we are. Actually more than just OU fans were defending them being in that game. As a matter of fact I remember them saying on the national broadcast on ABC "Many people believe Oklahoma didn't belong here. Not the case as we learned here tonight." Besides the writer's still view them as something special. They still have them as #3 on the AP Poll. Many believed they'd drop to 4 or 5 but they stayed at 3 which many say is a testament to the respect that everyone does have for them. On top of all of that there are a lot of people now saying that they aren't even a Top 5 team. That they aren't a good team at all. Which is a crock of shit. They're still a tremendous team. They just aren't as good as LSU or USC. But they could've beaten Michigan and Ohio State and even Miami. I gurantee that. Think about this. LSU's offense did not get ONE SINGLE first down in the second half. Not one. That's what OU's defense can do when they're on. If the offense had been their then I gurantee they would've won that game. But the offense went out their and played some shitty ass football. That's why they lost. Their defense played like fucking monsters in the second half. Anyways....yes Oklahoma belonged in that game. But they proved why they aren't the national champions in that game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Also I heard a lot of people calling in today to my local radio station dumping on OU and saying that they were pissed and that this team should be ashamed of themselves and that they were ashamed to be a Sooner fan. First of all those people are idiots. Second of all think of this morons(the people on the radio that is). 5 years ago OU was one of the worst teams in the country. Nobody even wanted to go watch them play football. They could barely sell 50% of the home tickets. Bob Stoops came in and turned that program around. They've gone 2-1 on Big XII championships, 1-1 on National Championships, and 2-1 on non-championship bowl games.......all since 1999! That's a very impressive turn around! I mean they won a National Title in 2000...Stoops 2nd year on the job! And also even if they don't win the national title you can gurantee that they will be in a bowl game for the next 10 years at least. Hell they'll probably be in a BCS bowl for the next 10 years(provided the system lasts that long)! So Sooner fans ask yourself this............do you want a team that made it to the National Title and didn't quite make it but still went down as the #3 team this year? Or do you want a team that doesn't even sniff a fucking bowl game and goes 2-10 on the season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 "They just aren't as good as LSU or USC." THAT'S BEEN MY POINT FOR A MONTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 "They just aren't as good as LSU or USC." THAT'S BEEN MY POINT FOR A MONTH. And why didn't I listen to you? Because you presented your point like a jerk. And you continue to. You ignore everything I said to come up with that. Like an asshole. Well that's just great. I really don't give a damn what you think. You didn't even give them a chance to go to the bowl game and prove it or not. They didn't prove it but you said it before the game was even played. You can quit trying to talk to me now b/c it's obvious I'll never get anything besides that out of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Get what out of me? "Look I was right"? Well...look...I...was...right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Get what out of me? "Look I was right"? Well...look...I...was...right. No you won't even discuss it. I made two long posts that someone could've easily said more about. But you picked the easy way of being an asshole about it. So kiss my ass. It's that simple. If anyone else wants to look at my posts and tell me if you agree or disagree and discuss it that's fine. I'd love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Robfather 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2004 Heard this quote on the radio... thought it was funny... USC are the national champs the same way Al Gore is the president Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 It doesn't matter anymore. USC is a national champion LSU is a BCS national champion Considering most of us had no respect for the BCS, I'm fine saying they are both champs but give the edge to USC. Who actually got THREE coaches in deep trouble because they went against the grain and voted USC #1 anyway. Those poor guys can't VOTE NEXT YEAR FOR CHAMPION! OH NO! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 WHAT? THEY DON'T GET TO VOTE??? ... the coaches don't really vote ANYWAY!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 WHAT? THEY DON'T GET TO VOTE??? ... the coaches don't really vote ANYWAY!!!!! it's NCAA Division I college football.... Do you really expect logic in anything they do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted January 7, 2004 It doesn't matter anymore. USC is a national champion LSU is a BCS national champion Considering most of us had no respect for the BCS, I'm fine saying they are both champs but give the edge to USC. Who actually got THREE coaches in deep trouble because they went against the grain and voted USC #1 anyway. Those poor guys can't VOTE NEXT YEAR FOR CHAMPION! OH NO! What I STILL don't get is --- Why are the polls so damned respected anyway? A system where WHEN you lose is of more importance than who you lose to is GOOD (let's be PERFECTLY honest here: Had LSU and USC'S losses switched (i.e LSU loses first), there is no debate as LSU is #1 right now)? A system where writers determine how good you are BEFORE YOU PLAY A DOWN and base ALL polls upon that for the rest of the season is GOOD? People keep saying "Well, USC did nothing to warrant being dropped from #1", and you are right. They probably didn't. But, I don't see what they did that WARRANTED them being #1 IN THE FIRST PLACE. I can't say for certain, but big money says that USC was ranked higher than LSU when the season started. Heck, I'll take a computer's projection over the writers. The writers have a habit of sticking overrated teams (*cough* Notre Dame) in the top 25 every friggin' season, whether they are remotely deserving or not. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Ghost of bps21 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 I don't care if you're losing to LSU or USC in the regular season (the #1 and #2 teams)... if you lose by 28 you...you don't belong in the championship game. It was just compounded by the fact that everyone watched it in the last game of the year...the same day they watched USC and LSU dominate. If you'd ask fans who belonged before the bowls...most said Lsu and Usc (as evidenced by this whole controversy). The bowls played out exatly that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 Enough. College football is done for the season. The same things are being said over and over again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted January 7, 2004 But... ellipses are fun... they... make what you say... seem... more important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites