Vince mcmahon denounces heels and faces

[Guest mastermind]

"Thing is, looking back, the WWF had a lot of horrible storylines in 1998. The Undertaker/Kane storyline STILL makes no sense. And I won't even get into Russo's Corporate Ministry debacle.

 

Russo's ideas were different, I'll give him that. And he definitely tried to give the mid-carders stories (a good idea). But, most of his ideas just weren't good and needed serious editing to work".

 

You are correct there was some crap as well in 1998. However, I don't think it compared to the crap in 1999. Kane/Taker STILL doesn't make sense I'll give you that. Taker believing his character and other junk in 1999 was much worse.

 

 

"Well, the WWF started heading more towards the soap opera area with the initial success of the love triangle involving Kurt/HHH/Steph. I still point to THAT angle as the beginning of the WWF's problems".

 

Amen on that!

 

"I disagree on both accounts. KOTR 2000 wasn't a great show, but unless you think UT v Mankind at KOTR '98 is a great match (which I do not), that show was quite bad. And SSeries '98 had poor---at best---wrestling while 2000 had mediocre---at best---wrestling.

 

And how much of the success of Austin/Foley/McMahon was due to writing and how much was due to all 3 of those guys being rather good performers and able to make almost anything look decent?"

 

I agree Survivor Series '98 had very poor wrestling. The booking was off the chains though. I still think KOR '98 was the best over all show for the event. Austin/Foley/Mcmahon were gold for real in 1998 I agree.

 

"Well, in the case of SD, it dropped a significant percentage of its audience right after the announcement of the Hogan v HHH ME at Backlash.

 

If the rating stays that low again, it will only verify something I and a few others noted at WCW---Hogan draws pops from crowds---but he doesn't actually draw crowds.

 

The fans that are there might go nuts for him, but few people go to the show just to see him".

 

I think Smackdown got a poor rating because the show basically sucked last week. Even I tuned out at times. I think it's kind of obvious what the Hogan syndrome is. Fans are popping for him because it's his last run. The last line I don't know about. I was at skydome and many people I think just showed up because Hogan was back. 1.3 million rumoured buy-rate. That is the first time EVER Mania broke a million homes. I think Hogan draws in certain circumstances. In others he doesn't because simply the guy isn't exactly in his prime. Even in his wcw days.

 

"Well, their head writer, I believe, quit in Sept. 2000 and then Steph took the reigns in Oct. or Nov.---and the WWF has never been as good since".

 

Well, I can't argue with you there. It's pretty obvious and the wwf obvuiosuly feels otherwise.

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[Guest Risk]

Good points.  I do think Heyman should be on the team, Raven described him as very good at booking storylines.