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Guest Anglesault
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Then it's time for him to retire, because he hasn't done anything funny in two and a half years.

 

I enjoyed his insults to Cena, but to each his own.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

That was funny.

 

The rap offs and the midget were some of the most absurdly unfunny "comedy" this side of Edge.

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Guest PowerPB13
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See, now this is down to a matter of opinion. Deon enjoyed the segment, Anglesault didn't. Purely a matter of personal taste.

 

I don't really watch wrestling shows with the mindset "will this pop a rating" or "will this draw a buyrate"...if a segment entertains me, it's all fine and good. *I* know how good the participants are and that they'll deliver come match time.

 

-Patrick

Guest TheZsaszHorsemen
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Well, they had to have done something right with the build to Angle/Cena because it was the hottest match since Austin/Rock at WM.

Guest Anglesault
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See, now this is down to a matter of opinion. Deon enjoyed the segment, Anglesault didn't. Purely a matter of personal taste.

Well explain it.

 

What the hell is so damn hilarious about a midget?

Guest Anglesault
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Well, they had to have done something right with the build to Angle/Cena because it was the hottest match since Austin/Rock at WM.

I don't even know where to begin with that.

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Well, they had to have done something right with the build to Angle/Cena because it was the hottest match since Austin/Rock at WM.

Don't forget it had the buildup of Austin/Hart.

Guest TheZsaszHorsemen
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Well, they had to have done something right with the build to Angle/Cena because it was the hottest match since Austin/Rock at WM.

I don't even know where to begin with that.

You can start by naming a match that year that had more heat. Because I can't think of a single one, AS. And I don't care how many snide remarks or pithy comebacks you bring until you can name me one you're just wasting both our time.

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Well, they had to have done something right with the build to Angle/Cena because it was the hottest match since Austin/Rock at WM.

I don't even know where to begin with that.

You can start by naming a match that year that had more heat. Because I can't think of a single one, AS. And I don't care how many snide remarks or pithy comebacks you bring until you can name me one you're just wasting both our time.

HBK/HHH - Last Raw of 2003. Granted it's not BEFORE Angle/Cena but it definitely had more heat.

Guest Anglesault
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Well, they had to have done something right with the build to Angle/Cena because it was the hottest match since Austin/Rock at WM.

I don't even know where to begin with that.

You can start by naming a match that year that had more heat. Because I can't think of a single one, AS. And I don't care how many snide remarks or pithy comebacks you bring until you can name me one you're just wasting both our time.

I actually had a mental block and thought you were saying the Austin/Rock X-Seven match. Sorry. :)

 

I'll stick by my originally planned answer and say that Vince McMahon/Stephanie McMahon had more heat.

 

Which segues into the fact that McMahon/McMahon was a brutally bad feud, so clearly you didn't have to operate a good feud to get heat that night.

Guest PowerPB13
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And until something actually happens on TV, all of this is just rumor and speculation. Newsletters can blab all the POSSIBILITIES they want, but a lot can happen between now and Wrestlemania and things get changed even down to the last minute.

 

-Patrick

Guest TheZsaszHorsemen
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Well, they had to have done something right with the build to Angle/Cena because it was the hottest match since Austin/Rock at WM.

I don't even know where to begin with that.

You can start by naming a match that year that had more heat. Because I can't think of a single one, AS. And I don't care how many snide remarks or pithy comebacks you bring until you can name me one you're just wasting both our time.

I actually had a mental block and thought you were saying the Austin/Rock X-Seven match. Sorry. :)

 

I'll stick by my originally planned answer and say that Vince McMahon/Stephanie McMahon had more heat.

 

Which segues into the fact that McMahon/McMahon was a brutally bad feud, so clearly you didn't have to operate a good feud to get heat that night.

Okay, sorry about being kind of an ass there.

 

Yes, that did have more heat, but it's not every day that a six month angle gets blown off. If Angle/Cena had gotten that build what kind of heat would it have gotten.

 

Interestingly enough, the build for Vince/Steph was ALL sketches and almost nothing in the ring, so I don't see how it helps prove your point there.

Guest Anglesault
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Interestingly enough, the build for Vince/Steph was ALL sketches and almost nothing in the ring, so I don't see how it helps prove your point there.

My point is that quality of the feud seemed to have precious little to do with heat that night.

Guest TheZsaszHorsemen
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Interestingly enough, the build for Vince/Steph was ALL sketches and almost nothing in the ring, so I don't see how it helps prove your point there.

My point is that quality of the feud seemed to have precious little to do with heat that night.

I think the reason for that match was that the characters of Angle and Cena were so liked by the fans that they cheered for them. Also, the fact that both men put on a good match didn't hurt.

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I don't expect comedy all the time, but it is important. How else would have The Rock and Cena gotten over?

Guest Mulatto Heat
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The witty "this isn't sing-a-long with the Rock" is quite different from the mindless shit-spraying and midget skits that are more and more common these days.

Guest TheZsaszHorsemen
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The witty "this isn't sing-a-long with the Rock" is quite different from the mindless shit-spraying and midget skits that are more and more common these days.

So you're saying it's more a problem with writing then with the actual straegy of using comedy skits to enhance a feud. That kind of contradicts what AS was saying earlier.

Guest Mulatto Heat
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It is. Back then they wrote to 16 year olds. Now they write to 10 year olds. Retarded 10 year olds.

Guest Anglesault
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The witty "this isn't sing-a-long with the Rock" is quite different from the mindless shit-spraying and midget skits that are more and more common these days.

So you're saying it's more a problem with writing then with the actual straegy of using comedy skits to enhance a feud. That kind of contradicts what AS was saying earlier.

There's a huge difference between telling a joke and running a comedy skit.

 

If in their promos they make fun of each other a little, fine.

 

It's when you start skits and comedy routines that everything goes to hell.

 

If Angle wants to tell a joke about how Eddy hasn't accomplished anything in the company, fine. If he walks out with a lawn mower, no.

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I subscribe to the Roger Ebert belief that I can't tell you what's funny and I can't tell you what to get off on - but I can say what's good. Comedy, for the most part, doesn't make for "good" storylines. At least, not for "good" main event storylines. I don't say "oooh, I got to see this now!" when something funny happens. I think the only time this past year when something funny happened that made me want to see a match more was with Quinton Jackson making fun of Wanderlei Silva in an interview before Pride 26 - "why you on yo knees Wanderlei" and calling him names in different languages. And that was funny in the "holy shit I can't believe he's saying that about Silva!" "Silva is going to kill him" kinda way.

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