TSM's Best Year of the 2000's

[alfdogg 0]

I'd like to challenge CWM to fisticuffs, RIGHT NOW.

Edited February 23, 2004 by alfdogg

[Sass 0]

You can't make everyone happy as the head honcho of a message board, especially one as large as TSM, and so far Tom has managed to do his job which is lead the board.

 

I just find all the sniping of late towards Tom to be unwarranted because he's the only one (myself included) in my view who can fill Dames' shoes while he is away (it was either him or Popick so pick your poison). I wish some folks here would realize that Tom *is* human and prone to mistakes like the rest of us and he doesn't need to be chided for them when he's just trying to do his job. When Tom is wrong about something (WWE folder change's premature launch) he'll own up to it and apologize without mincing words and flat-out say he was wrong for whatever it was he did and that's something I find admirable in him and other folks. It's also not something very easy for someone in power here to do since any sign of "weakness" can be like blood in the water where the sharks might come swarming over the body and that can cause some of us mods to feel like we need to have the brick wall held up in every post we make which can take it's toll on us after a while (as well as the posters who we interact with).

 

But that's what comes with job of being a mod at a board the size of TSM and I wouldn't expect things to go any other way.

 

Both Dames and Tom are different in their approaches to handling board matters. Tom is very hands-on while Dames isn't and would let the mods more or less handle matters unless something called for his direct attention.

 

I know this ordeal hasn't been easy for some folks to handle but I can assure you this board is in good hands with Tom at the helm. If I felt otherwise then I would have said something to Dames instead of saying "best man possible" when he asked me if he felt Tom would be a good guy to lead the board while he was away.

 

What I wish some folks would do is lay off Tom a bit because he's done the best job possible so far under the circumstances. He could have easily banned a bunch of folks for the way they've taken shots at him in different threads which could be construed as trolling if the issue was pushed but hasn't done so.

 

My hat goes off to the way Tom has handled being the TSM leader so far.

 

Oh and I chose "none" because TSM hasn't been around enough for me to feel that it's had a "great" or "awful" year since it still has many more years to go (I hope anyways).

 

Carry on.

[Anorak 0]

I suppose it is a bit of a thankless job and you're right he could have banned a few of us for throwing insults so fair play to him on that score, many other people wouldn't have done the same. I think the obvious common sense solution would be for all of us to make the effort to air any future greivencies in a more tactful and sensible manner, just giving each other the chance and meeting halfway to properly discuss stuff would help more problems to be be resolved rather than allowed to fester.

 

Sass = The voice of reason

[Guest Agent of Oblivion]

The only mod I actively dislike is Loss, because he strikes me as being a complete pussy in real life, and he cares about wrestling way too much. That said, it's nothing personal of course. I don't even know the guy.

 

Sass is too verbose, I don't think I even see Kahran post anymore, I don't share a single common interest with Bps, ditto with Zack. So I'm pretty indifferent to you lot.

 

Tom and Dames strike me as good shits, but comparing and contrasting internet messageboard moderators tells me that there's something missing in my life.

[k thx 0]

Most of the displeasure towards Tom is that he's an unpopular poster rather than a poor moderator.

 

Although he does seem to show favoritism more often than the other mods.

[Guest Ghettoman]

My problem with Tom is he suspended me without any reason because he saw the word nigger and just had to do something mod like.

 

Didn't break any rules, didn't direct it at anyone or use it in an intentionally offensive manner, all he could of or should of done is told me to remove it if it was a problem, considering the only further discussion of the post came because of the suspension, there obviously wasn't a problem.

 

He's just too gungho, it's like Cartman with a badge.

[Guest cobainwasmurdered]

ghettoman is a dumbass and I approved of Tom making him his bitch.

 

 

Most of the displeasure towards Tom is that he's an unpopular poster rather than a poor moderator[\quote]

 

Eh. I like tom the poster. Tom the mod was annoying me a little the last few weeks but it's cool now.

 

I'd like to challenge CWM to fisticuffs, RIGHT NOW

 

you caouldn't handle me Alfy.

[Guest Ghettoman]

Too much effort. 3/10

[Guest Loss]

The only mod I actively dislike is Loss, because he strikes me as being a complete pussy in real life, and he cares about wrestling way too much. That said, it's nothing personal of course. I don't even know the guy.

You actively dislike me but it's nothing personal?

 

Why do you think I'm a complete pussy? The saying is that you are what you eat, and I'm gay.

[Guest Ghettoman]

So wait, who eats gay? Is it like the limp wrist chopstick technique? I'm so confused....

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

My problem with Tom is he suspended me without any reason because he saw the word nigger and just had to do something mod like.

 

Didn't break any rules, didn't direct it at anyone or use it in an intentionally offensive manner, all he could of or should of done is told me to remove it if it was a problem, considering the only further discussion of the post came because of the suspension, there obviously wasn't a problem.

 

He's just too gungho, it's like Cartman with a badge.

For the love of pete will you just drop it.

 

I may not be sure of all the details that went into your suspension...but I am sure that your constant bitching and moaning is going to lead to another situation that will need taking care of...and you seem to be running out of suspensions. The next time a mod feels you need to be removed from the board...it will be in a more permanent manner.

 

Furthermore, any and all complaints about the way a member of the staff does their job belong in the site feedback folder, or as a PM to an admin or the mod him/herself. Posting your crap everywhere else is called whining. So grow up and take the stick out of your ass.

 

I don't know when it became open season on Dr. Tom around here. But those days are going to come to an end. Dr. Tom is a part of the staff here at thesmartmarks...and when you come to use the board...that is a fact that you accept. If people keep being uppity bitches about Dr. Tom (or the other mods/admins for that matter) we're going to have to deal with that in a manner that I know a lot of people aren't going to like.

 

We don't log onto the board with a big agenda against certain posters...and yet it seems that certain posters are forming agendas against some mods. That will not be the case for much longer.

[Guest]

So wait, who eats gay? Is it like the limp wrist chopstick technique? I'm so confused....

In other words, he's a dick.

[Guest Ghettoman]

I've complained all of twice, and with good reason.

 

I would post my complaints, but considering how I've been threatened and the fact that my last suspension was without merit, it doesn't seem to be a good idea.

 

So I figure I'll just partake/start inan anti Tom sentiment until he snaps and deletes a forum. That way I can later bask in the foreshadowed glory.

 

Oh and the writing off of everyone who has a problem with him as a whiny bitch doesn't help the whole helpful mods bit. Just sayin'.

[justsoyouknow 0]

But...threads started in site feedback with complaints about the mods get moved to Hardcore Discussion anyways...

 

Anyway, this "scorched earth" policy that you're adopting probably won't work. "HEY, FUCKERS! LIKE DR. TOM OR BE BANNED!"

[Guest]

Why don't you guys leave the fucking mods alone?

[Guest]

I take it everyone has stopped.

[Sass 0]

Oh and the writing off of everyone who has a problem with him as a whiny bitch doesn't help the whole helpful mods bit. Just sayin'.

What Bps was getting at was the way people have handled their problems with Tom over the last week or so which has brought drama to the board in a couple of the threads questioning him or the board policies in a condescending or inflamatory manner. Some mods have started to grow tired from seeing these types of threads just degenerate into petty insults and name calling.

 

I'm more than willing to take the time to answer PM's or IM's from folks who might have a problem with me or the board which I'm sure goes the same for the other mods.

 

If you or anyone else have a problem with Tom then take it to him directly through PM or AIM. He is more than willing to answer the PM's sent to him as long as they aren't just some long and drawn out flame that's letting him know he can go eat shit or something because those are the types of messages the mods will ignore since they aren't productive towards resolving the issue at hand and will lead nowhere.

 

JSYK:

 

No one said like Tom or get banned.

 

What I said was that Tom is doing the best job possible that he can under the circumstances and that people should ease off a bit from him since he hasn't gone on a banning spree with folks he could have done so to.

 

The thread was moved to HD because it degenerated into flaming and was no longer productive to the Site Feedback folder after like page 3 where everyone threw down with one another involved with nothing getting resolved or handled.

 

That's all.

[Guest Ghettoman]

Well most of the problems with Tom seem to stem from punishments that weren't justified, so why should we expect anything else if we try to further go over the issue.

 

I know I can't get unsuspended, I lived it down and now it's over, but I'm still not just gonna act like it didn't go down like it did, so I'll simply express my dislike for his modding where it's brought up, like this thread.

 

Seems fair.

[Guest]

But it's not supposed to be brought up here. Dumbass.

[Guest Ghettoman]

And the whole "he's doing the best job possible" bit doesn't really work considering all thats going on. If he was, people wouldn't be upset or complaining.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

Kingofthe909 sure seems to understand the point.

 

Ghettoman still doesn't.

[Guest]

I think you should ban him.

[Guest Ghettoman]

Sass was talking about tom when I came in this thread, so I posted about him too, seems to make sense to me. It's not like I walked in a thread that didn't have his name anywhere in it and start going 'tom is evil omg ban him!!11'.

[Guest]

No, you didn't. But you won't shut up.

[Sass 0]

By complaining about Tom's board decisions in more than one folder (as well as not taking the issue with him to Feedback, the right folder, or PM) you are technically trolling him and that is a bannable offense.

 

Either settle things with Tom once and for all by making a compromise with one another or else drop it. By saying how you'll "bask in the foreshadowed glory" after Tom makes some major screw-up, it undermines your argument and credibility no matter how valid your complaint might be.

 

You don't have to "not remember" you got suspended since you were gone from the board for a short period of time but you also shouldn't be hording this over Tom's head since he did let you back onto the board when he could have just flat out banned you.

 

This is not a warning but me just giving you some smart advice on this matter GM.

[The Ghost of bps21 0]

Ok...

 

how about the post in this thread that I made where I told you to shut the fuck up...thus ending the DR. Tom discussion here by telling you where to take it?

 

Or do you only read the posts that help your "argument"

[Guest]

I personally think that this thread is pretty funny, but it may get even better.

[Guest Ghettoman]

I didn't continue this, I posted my thoughts on Tom because someone else had and it seemed to be the topic of discussion, and only continued discussing it after someone responded to me.

 

Answering someone isn't an offense is it?

[justsoyouknow 0]

JSYK:

 

No one said like Tom or get banned.

 

If people keep being uppity bitches about Dr. Tom (or the other mods/admins for that matter) we're going to have to deal with that in a manner that I know a lot of people aren't going to like.

 

Certainly seems that way. Basically the idea that BPS is giving off is "don't argue with anything the mods do. Don't disagree with anything they do, or say, for the matter, because, if you do...you'll be dealt with in a way that a lot of people aren't going to like."

 

Again, I have no issues with any of the mods here on a personal level. I find you all to be great guys. The only thing is that Tom is the perfect example of mods showing favoritism and hypocrisy. I hate to keep kicking a dead horse here, but every time Tom claims not to do something and examples are brought up proving otherwise, he resorts to petty name-calling and one-lined insults as well.

 

Nevermind, though. If Sass says stop, then I stop. That's how it goes.

[Guest]

If he results to name calling, that's his decision. Anyway when Dames is back there will be a reason for everyone to shut up.