Renegade 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2004 http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/thekin...ws_6090355.html Not really a big fan of 2k2 so no rush to get an X-Box yet. Still seems like X-box is getting everything that SCEA refuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2004 Once again, fuck SCEA and their anti-2D stance. The DC version of 2K2 is on it's way for me...and I have no X-Box. Makes me think just how wise a move it is to go with Microsoft. It's cool they don't have the same kind of policy, but they're dead last right now and figure letting another Japanese developer (MS has been fighting from the very beginning to win over the xenophobic Japanese by getting developers on their side) can only help. It makes me wonder why they haven't gone with Gamecube, though. Gamecube is currently #2 I believe (well, #3 after Nintendo's own GBA) in regards to user base I believe. The system sure as hell can do the games. Why not? Well, King of Fighters isn't a good fit for the GC pad, but more workable than an SF game. Metal Slug would fit on it perfectly. Plus, with Metal Slug Advance on the way, they could possibly fit in connectivity. Thing with X-box--doesn't seem like an "old school" player's system--the audience that would be mainly interested in it. I know 2D fighters don't appeal to everyone, but Metal Slug is just too damn fun... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2004 Cool. I'll get it. I want 94, 96 and 97 on a US console. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 Eh 94 is lame anyway so its no big loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 I doubt you'll see it. I don't think SNK is too proud of that game, because it looks pretty bad today and there's almost no combo system. They haven't released it any form other than the Neo and Neo CD ports. They also left it off the King of Fighters Best Collection (put 95, 96, 97 on it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Use Your Illusion 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 Which system is the KOF Best Collection available on? Sounds quite interesting. UYI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 Kof is a mixed bag really. The ones that I play and hence prefer gameplay wise: 98 2k1 97 2k3 (still debating, doesnt seem too broken besides Dou lon). And if you must own a pre 97 game get 96. Still not a great game but you could do alot worse with 94 and 95. Which system is the KOF Best Collection available on? Sounds quite interesting. Sega saturn import Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 I want the old ones just to own them. Just for collections sake. I have like every major fighting game ever except a bunch of SNK stuff. They need to put the older games on mainstream consoles. I'm too lazy to get a AES or MVS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 How many of the games do you actually play? 94 can go pretty cheap on Neo-geo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 Kof is a mixed bag really. The ones that I play (and hence like): 98 2k1 97 2k3 (still debating, doesnt seem too broken besides Dou lon). And if you must own a pre 97 game get 96. Still not a good game but you could do alot worse with 94 and 95. Which system is the KOF Best Collection available on? Sounds quite interesting. Sega saturn import Your mileage may vary. I really like 2000, dislike 2001. I like 97, but the graphics/sound are a bit of a letdown, because the backgrounds and music in 95 smoke it, IMO. I also liked 98 (well, the DC version called Dream Match '99), but mainly for all the characters, the visuals--not so much the gameplay, which doesn't seem to be too much new or different. If you're not picky about which games you want, there's a KoF Best Collection or two up on Ebay now and then. However, if you just want one or two of the games, buying them separately is cheaper. Also, yeah, as far as gameplay goes the newer games mostly are superior. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 I know price doesn't seem to be an object, but probably your best bet is to go with the Neo CDs. Those seem to be easier to find and cheaper, too. You might be able to net a system and a bunch of games all together. I saw a system with about 30 games on Ebay once...but it was 700 bucks and the shipping was so high I think I blacked out from reading it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Renegade 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 2K1 is a very rich gameplay wise, but its crippled by its horrible visuals. 2k on the other hand is the oposite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 2K1 is a very rich gameplay wise, but its crippled by its horrible visuals. 2k on the other hand is the oposite. I'm a mark for the kick-ass strikers, so sue me. Plus, I like Armor Mode as opposed to pissing around with supers if I just want no-frills ass-kicking. 2000 isn't a bad game, but it isn't as deep as 2001. 2001 has a lot of new techniques like guard cancels and guard breaking that 2000 doesn't. However, it does look like ass, and the new art doesn't really suck any less than the original art they replaced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 I don't want a Neo or Neo CD because eventually I'll get a MVS cabinet. I got a Jaguar today. I bought it so I could play Kasumi Ninja, Fight for Life and Ultra Vortek! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 I don't want a Neo or Neo CD because eventually I'll get a MVS cabinet. I got a Jaguar today. I bought it so I could play Kasumi Ninja, Fight for Life and Ultra Vortek! *has no wise-ass remark to respond to that.* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 Those are 3 cool games. At least in the sense that they'll be funny to mess around with. Ultra Vortek and Kasumi Ninja are MK klones and Fight for Life looks like one of the worst 3D fighters ever. I can't wait. I really want to try Shadow: War of Succession for 3DO too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 Those are 3 cool games. At least in the sense that they'll be funny to mess around with. Ultra Vortek and Kasumi Ninja are MK klones and Fight for Life looks like one of the worst 3D fighters ever. I can't wait. I really want to try Shadow: War of Succession for 3DO too. You collect extremely bad games...I guess the B-movie lover in me kinda appreciates that. Wasn't the sole reason that anyone cared about Kasumi Ninja was...the Scottish dude's "lift me kilt and shoot a fireball" special? Also, wasn't the title of the other game Ultra VorteX? Or did the creators think they couldn't bear to have the title not contain a "K," and they would go a step further by not only spelling the title wrong, but spelling it so that it doesn't even sound correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 Yes, Kasumi Ninja is the kilt fireball game. Angus McGreggor is the name of the guy. It is Vortek with a K. I am running out of bad fighting games to buy. Good fighting games at that. Besides SNK stuff I don't know what else to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 Yes, Kasumi Ninja is the kilt fireball game. Angus McGreggor is the name of the guy. It is Vortek with a K. I am running out of bad fighting games to buy. Good fighting games at that. Besides SNK stuff I don't know what else to get. What about DBZ/Sailor Moon fighting games? Do you have Double Dragon V? That's on Jag as well, I think. Battle Monsters? Slaughter Sport (genesis)? The TMNT fighters? (range from good to bad) Ballz? (refrains from bad joke) Batman Forever? (It has a bad fighting game in it as a bonus) VF2 (Genesis)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2004 What about DBZ/Sailor Moon fighting games? I'm not into imports. I don't have the American DBZ games and don't really want them. Do you have Double Dragon V? That's on Jag as well, I think. Yeah it is. I have it on Genesis. Battle Monsters? Got it. It's funny. Slaughter Sport (genesis)? Ballz? (refrains from bad joke) No to both. Ballz really sucks though. The TMNT fighters? (range from good to bad) I have the SNES one. That's enough for me. Batman Forever? (It has a bad fighting game in it as a bonus) I wouldn't say it counts. Game is overall a beat em' up. VF2 (Genesis)? The Saturn port is enough for me. Here is my list... 1. Street Fighter(PC) 2. Street Fighter II(SNES) 3. Street Fighter II Turbo(SNES) 4. Street Fighter II Special Champion Edition(Genesis) 5. Super Street Fighter II(Genesis) 6. Super Street Fighter II Turbo(PC) 7. Super Street Fighter II Turbo Revival(GBA) 8. Hyper Street Fighter II The Anniversary Edition(Import PS2) 9. Street Fighter III Double Impact(DC) 10. Street Fighter III 3rd Strike(DC) 11. Street Fighter Alpha(PSX) 12. Street Fighter Alpha 2(PSX) 13. Street Fighter Alpha 2(SNES) 14. Street Fighter Alpha 3(PSX) 15. Street Fighter Alpha 3(arcade) 16. Street Fighter Alpha 3(GBA) 17. Street Fighter Collection(PSX) 18. Street Fighter Collection(Saturn) 19. Street Fighter Collection 2(PSX) 20. Street Fighter The Movie(Saturn) 21. Street Figher EX Plus Alpha(PSX) 22. Street Fighter EX 2 Plus(PSX) 23. Street Fighter EX3(PS2) 24. Darkstalkers(PSX) 25. Night Warriors(Saturn) 26. Darkstalkers 3(PSX) 27. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure(PSX) 28. X-Men Children of the Atom(PC) 29. X-Men Children of the Atom(PSX) 30. Marvel Super Heroes(PSX) 31. X-Men vs. Street Fighter(PSX) 32. Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter(PSX) 33. Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter(arcade) 34. Marvel vs. Capcom(DC) 35. Marvel vs. Capcom 2(DC) 36. Capcom vs. SNK(DC) 37. Capcom vs. SNK Pro(PSX) 38. Capcom vs. SNK 2(PS2) 39. Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO(Xbox) 40. Pocket Fighter(PSX) 41. Star Gladiator(PSX) 42. Plasma Sword(DC) 43. Rival Schools(PSX) 44. Project Justice(DC) 45. Power Stone(DC) 46. Power Stone 2(DC) 47. World Heroes(SNES) 48. World Heroes 2(SNES) 49. Art of Fighting(SNES) 50. Fatal Fury(Genesis) 51. Fatal Fury 2(Genesis) 52. Fatal Fury Special(SNES) 53. Fatal Fury Wild Ambition(PSX) 54. Fatal Fury Mark of the Wolves(DC) 55. Samurai Shodown(Genesis) 56. Samurai Shodown III(PSX) 57. Samurai Shodown Warriors Rage(PSX) 58. King of Fighters 95(PSX) 59. King of Fighters Dream Match 99(DC) 60. King of Fighters 99(PSX) 61. King of Fighters 2000 & 2001(PS2) 62. The Last Blade 2(DC) 63. SNK vs. Capcom Chaos(Import PS2) 64. Mortal Kombat(SNES) 65. Mortal Kombat(Genesis) 66. Mortal Kombat(Sega CD) 67. Mortal Kombat(PC) 68. Mortal Kombat(GB) 69. Mortal Kombat(Gamegear) 70. Mortal Kombat(Arcade) 71. Mortal Kombat II(SNES) 72. Mortal Kombat II(Genesis) 73. Mortal Kombat II(32X) 74. Mortal Kombat II(Saturn) 75. Mortal Kombat II(PC) 76. Mortal Kombat II(GB) 77. Mortal Kombat II(Gamegear) 78. Mortal Kombat II(arcade) 79. Mortal Kombat 3(SNES) 80. Mortal Kombat 3(Genesis) 81. Mortal Kombat 3(PC) 82. Mortal Kombat 3(PSX) 83. Mortal Kombat 3(GB) 84. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3(SNES) 85. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3(Genesis) 86. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3(Saturn) 87. Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3(arcade) 88. Mortal Kombat Trilogy(PSX) 89. Mortal Kombat Trilogy(N64) 90. Mortal Kombat Trilogy(Saturn) 91. Mortal Kombat Trilogy(Game.com) 92. Mortal Kombat Trilogy(PC) 93. Mortal Kombat Advance(GBA) 94. Mortal Kombat 4(PSX) 95. Mortal Kombat 4(N64) 96. Mortal Kombat 4(PC) 97. Mortal Kombat 4(GBC) 98. Mortal Kombat 4(arcade) 99. Mortal Kombat Gold(DC) 100. Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance(PS2) 101. Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance(Xbox) 102. Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance(GC) 103. Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance(GBA) 104. Mortal Kombat Tournament Edition(GBA) 105. War Gods(N64) 106. Bio Freaks(N64) 107. Mace: The Dark Age(N64) 108. Killer Instinct(SNES) 109. Killer Instinct(GB) 110. Killer Instinct 2(arcade) 111. Killer Instinct Gold(N64) 112. Eternal Champions(Genesis) 113. Eternal Champions Challenge From the Darkside(Sega CD) 114. Guilty Gear(PSX) 115. Guilty Gear X(PS2) 116. Guilty Gear X Advance Edition(GBA) 117. Guilty Gear X2(PS2) 118. Clayfighter(SNES) 119. Clayfighter 2: Judgment Clay(SNES) 120. Clayfighter 63 1/3(N64) 121. Primal Rage(PSX) 122. Weapon Lord(SNES) 123. Time Killers(Genesis) 124. Survival Arts(arcade) 125. Way of the Warrior(3DO) 126. Cosmic Carnage(32X) 127. Battle Monsters(Saturn) 128. Fighter’s History(SNES) 129. TMNT Tournament Fighters(SNES) 130. Double Dragon V(Genesis) 131. Tuff E Nuff(SNES) 132. Justice League Task Force(Genesis) 133. Power Rangers(Genesis) 134. Power Rangers Fighting Edition(SNES) 135. Ranma ½ Hard Battle(SNES) 136. Shaq Fu(SNES) 137. Tekken(PSX) 138. Tekken(arcade) 139. Tekken 2(PSX) 140. Tekken 2(arcade) 141. Tekken 3(PSX) 142. Tekken 4(PS2) 143. Tekken 4(Import PS2) 144. Tekken Tag Tournament(Arcade) 145. Tekken Tag Tournament(PS2) 146. Tekken Advance(GBA) 147. Soul Blade(PSX) 148. Soul Calibur(DC) 149. Soul Calibur II(PS2) 150. Virtua Fighter(32X) 151. Virtua Fighter 2(Saturn) 152. Virtua Fighter 3tb(DC) 153. Virtua Fighter 4(PS2) 154. Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution(PS2) 155. Fighting Vipers(Saturn) 156. Fighters Megamix(Saturn) 157. Last Bronx(Saturn) 158. Dead or Alive(PSX) 159. Dead or Alive 2 Hardcore(PS2) 160. Dead or Alive 3(Xbox) 161. X-Men Mutant Academy(PSX) 162. X-Men Mutant Academy 2(PSX) 163. X-Men Next Dimension(Xbox) 164. Bloody Roar(PSX) 165. Bloody Roar II(PSX) 166. Bloody Roar 3(PS2) 167. Bloody Roar 4(PS2) 168. Battle Arena Toshinden Remix(Saturn) 169. Battle Arena Toshinden 2(PSX) 170. Battle Arena Toshinden 3(PSX) 171. Super Smash Bros.(N64) 172. Super Smash Bros. Melee(GC) 173. Criticom(Saturn) 174. Dark Rift(N64) 175. Tobal No. 1(PSX) 176. Ehrgeiz(PSX) 177. Vs.(PSX) 178. Star Wars Masters of the Teras Kasi(PSX) 179. Cardinal Syn(PSX) 180. Iron & Blood(PSX) 181. Tao Feng(Xbox) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2004 I've played the Dreamcast version. Gameplay is good, although it's hard to tell just what is new or different gameplay-wise when you're playing a game in Japanese and you can't really use any instructions to tell you. Also, just like 2001, the game still looks like ass. The Challenge mode is a good idea, though, and adds lots of replay to the game. However, making us play it to unlock characters we've been able to play as from the outset in the past = BOOO!! 118. Clayfighter(SNES) 119. Clayfighter 2: Judgment Clay(SNES) 120. Clayfighter 63 1/3(N64) Um--you don't have the Genesis version of Clayfighters or Clayfighters: TE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2004 I don't have Clayfighter 63 1/3 Sculptor's Cut either. Oh well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2004 *cut insanely long list* Sweet f'king Jebus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 8, 2004 For those who haven't played 2k2 and want to know whether or not to give it a shot... Click here. and read Hurricane Higashi's review of it. Yeah, it's for the arcade version, but pretty much everything holds true. I don't think I could find a more accurate review of it if I tried. It pretty much hits everything on the mark. Having played it, I think that probably Dream Match 99/KOF 98 is the better deal, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
