Unintentional Irony

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America]

You're correct --- but how is it "extreme" to oppose something most people oppose? I didn't say it should be outlawed because it's unpopular. It should be outlawed because there is no legal justification for it.

 

Yeah, I'm not arguing it's "extreme", simply because I find it difficult to label something that half of America supports as "extreme".

 

But, I do think it's incredibly unnecessary, and I believe that any amendment that restricts our rights and citizens is probably an ill advised amendment.

 

What "rights" are denied? Homosexuals can't have long-term committed relationships right now?

 

Short answer: you're denying an entire group a right allowed by every state's laws.

 

Short solution: privatize marriage.

[Guest MikeSC]

You're correct --- but how is it "extreme" to oppose something most people oppose? I didn't say it should be outlawed because it's unpopular. It should be outlawed because there is no legal justification for it.

 

Yeah, I'm not arguing it's "extreme", simply because I find it difficult to label something that half of America supports as "extreme".

 

But, I do think it's incredibly unnecessary, and I believe that any amendment that restricts our rights and citizens is probably an ill advised amendment.

 

What "rights" are denied? Homosexuals can't have long-term committed relationships right now?

 

Short answer: you're denying an entire group a right allowed by every state's laws.

 

Short solution: privatize marriage.

Why are tax breaks of ANY sort given to heterosexual married couples?

 

Because they can bear children and need the help to raise them.

 

That some hetero couples do not do this is immaterial.

 

Homosexual couples CANNOT do this.

 

They can still be faithful to one another. They can still find somebody to "marry" them and express their devotion to one another in front of the world.

 

They lose the tax benefits.

 

That is life.

-=Mike

[Dr. Tyler; Captain America]

We're hardly suffering from a lack of population in the country. I think it's safe to say we can afford to get rid of the tax breaks and other legal benefits. Just privatize it and get it over with.

[Firestarter]

An excellent article on the subject by Shelby Steele.

 

"[H]omosexuality is as permanent a feature of the human condition as heterosexuality. Nothing is gained in denying this. But neither should we deny that the two are inherently different. The gay marriage movement denies this difference in order to borrow 'normalcy' from marriage. Thus, it is a movement born more of self-denial than self-acceptance, as if on some level it agrees with those who see gays as abnormal."

[Jobber of the Week]

Yes, but Bush has never met a spending bill he wasn't willing to sign.

I'm not aware I ever defended Bush's spending.

-=Mike

Okay then.

 

 

And oh for god's sakes, who the hell let a gay marriage arguement break out in this thread? I was looking forward to some good ol' fashioned contrast and comparison of Presidents viewed as extreme.