Guest Anglesault Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 I was just arguing in the Lesnar thread, when I realized, January 2004 was a REALLY bizarre and fucked up month booking wise. We all know how I feel about the Angle/Eddie storyline, so no need to get into that. However, Chris Benoit, who had been chasing Brock since November, goes through the gamut of Heyman's obstacles and roadblocks in his quest to fight Brock, wins the Rumble from number one after taking out the Big Show in the end... And Runs away to Raw -John Cena and the Big Show started feuding after Survivor Series. They fought each other once or twice and Show costs Cena the number one contendership... And they never interact in January, save for one segment that was not part of the feud but to build Big Show up as a Rumble Challenger. -For like two months, Jamie Noble is built up as a face challenger to Tajri's heel champion, as he was avenging Nidia... When the whole thing ends inconclusively, Tajri loses the belt to Rey for whatever reason, and Noble turns into a heel domestic abuser? What the hell was going on in January?
Guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 I think January was their month where they were gonna TRY to iron all their shit out. We know how that went.
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 I think January was their month where they were gonna TRY to iron all their shit out. We know how that went. You could only polish a turd so much. Since when though did HBK/HHH feud start TEN YEARS AGO? Since when did any kind of on air relationship start 10 years ago? Stupid raw bookers
Guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 They should have tried to fix everything during October or November.....but they never do.
Guest Anglesault Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Oh yeah, add Bob Holly kicking all off team Lesnar's asses and making the Big Show tap out.
Guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Basically what is being said is that Bob Holly fucked the whole company up.
Guest JRE Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Chris Benoit, who had been chasing Brock since November, goes through the gamut of Heyman's obstacles and roadblocks in his quest to fight Brock, wins the Rumble from number one after taking out the Big Show in the end... And runs away to Raw Art imitates life. It all worked good in the end though.
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Chris Benoit, who had been chasing Brock since November, goes through the gamut of Heyman's obstacles and roadblocks in his quest to fight Brock, wins the Rumble from number one after taking out the Big Show in the end... And runs away to Raw Art imitates life. It all worked good in the end though. Agreed. 2004 for WWE started out like the NY Mets 1969 season. AWFUL but everything worked out later on.
Papacita Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Since when though did HBK/HHH feud start TEN YEARS AGO? Since when did any kind of on air relationship start 10 years ago? Stupid raw bookers Well, in 97, they revealed on-air that HHH and Shawn had been friends in the Kliq since 95.
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Since when though did HBK/HHH feud start TEN YEARS AGO? Since when did any kind of on air relationship start 10 years ago? Stupid raw bookers Well, in 97, they revealed on-air that HHH and Shawn had been friends in the Kliq since 95. Only smarks would care, but still that deosn't mean they've feuded for 10 years. 5 Years is believable since HBK kinda turned on HHH in late 1998. (since then they were on again off again relationship when HBK was on)
Guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Only smarks would care, but still that deosn't mean they've feuded for 10 years. 5 Years is believable since HBK kinda turned on HHH in late 1998. (since then they were on again off again relationship when HBK was on) Since when is March late 1998?
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Only smarks would care, but still that deosn't mean they've feuded for 10 years. 5 Years is believable since HBK kinda turned on HHH in late 1998. (since then they were on again off again relationship when HBK was on) Since when is March late 1998? Don't you mean November 1998 when HBK turned heel as Commish?
Guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 No, because technically HHH threw HBK out of DX on the RAW after WM XIV. I know my shit.
Guest Anglesault Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 HHH kind of turned on HBK in March of 98.
Papacita Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Only smarks would care, but still that deosn't mean they've feuded for 10 years. 5 Years is believable since HBK kinda turned on HHH in late 1998. (since then they were on again off again relationship when HBK was on) Since when is March late 1998? Shawn turned on DX in Nov. 98. And I took Shawn's comment to mean that the seeds for the feud were planted 10 years ago, not that they were feuding for 10 years.
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Then explain why HBK saved Chyna (HHH's manager) from The Nation in June 1998? I guess he wasn't mad.
Guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Just because he saved Chyna doesn't mean he wasn't mad at HHH.
Papacita Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Then explain why HBK saved Chyna (HHH's manager) from The Nation in June 1998? I guess he wasn't mad. To make HHH and DX think that it was all love, so they'd be more unsuspecting when he turned on them down the line. And besides, it's Chyna. Everybody loves Chyna, right?
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 I don't count a feud until actually interaction between the two happens. So November 1998 is when the actual feud started between DX/HBK.
Guest Anglesault Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Then explain why HBK saved Chyna (HHH's manager) from The Nation in June 1998? I guess he wasn't mad. Chyna didn't kick him out of DX, so he had no reason to have a beef with her.
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Then explain why HBK saved Chyna (HHH's manager) from The Nation in June 1998? I guess he wasn't mad. Chyna didn't kick him out of DX, so he had no reason to have a beef with her. Then why did he hate DX when he was commish? Or is this all Vince Russo loopholes I'm missing.
Guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 I don't count a feud until actually interaction between the two happens. By that logic there was no Monday Night War.
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 I don't count a feud until actually interaction between the two happens. By that logic there was no Monday Night War. That wasn't a feud. That was real hatred.
Guest Anglesault Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Then explain why HBK saved Chyna (HHH's manager) from The Nation in June 1998? I guess he wasn't mad. Chyna didn't kick him out of DX, so he had no reason to have a beef with her. Then why did he hate DX when he was commish? Or is this all Vince Russo loopholes I'm missing. Wasn't Chyna off TV for much of that?
Guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 I don't count a feud until actually interaction between the two happens. By that logic there was no Monday Night War. That wasn't a feud. That was real hatred. A feud is a rivalry, correct? For there to be a rivalry there has to have been an interaction between the 2.
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Then explain why HBK saved Chyna (HHH's manager) from The Nation in June 1998? I guess he wasn't mad. Chyna didn't kick him out of DX, so he had no reason to have a beef with her. Then why did he hate DX when he was commish? Or is this all Vince Russo loopholes I'm missing. Wasn't Chyna off TV for much of that? Uh....Damn I barely remember anything from late 1998-most of 1999. I'm lucky to remember when HBK returned. So this proves HBK had a hankering to get in Chyna's pants. Mark me proved wrong I guess since HHH was out of action until HBK did his miracle face turn in Jan. 99.
Papacita Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 Then explain why HBK saved Chyna (HHH's manager) from The Nation in June 1998? I guess he wasn't mad. Chyna didn't kick him out of DX, so he had no reason to have a beef with her. Then why did he hate DX when he was commish? Or is this all Vince Russo loopholes I'm missing. Wasn't Chyna off TV for much of that? She made her return from surgery the week before Shawn turned actually.
Guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 From September of 1998 until Survivor Series everything is really hard to remember.
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Posted March 21, 2004 Report Posted March 21, 2004 From September of 1998 until Survivor Series everything is really hard to remember. Thank God I'm not the alone one who thought Sept-Oct. 98 was a total mess. But I remember the major stuff. Midcarders are lost in the shuffle though.
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