Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted March 27, 2004 When did Val cut his hair anyway? I did enjoy his feuds with Ken Shamrock and Goldust back in the ol' Attitude era. He cut it right after his heel turn in June 2000 I believe. :: points and laughs at Anglesault for buying a RTC shirt:: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted March 27, 2004 When did Val cut his hair anyway? Mid-July 2000, around a week before Fully Loaded. It was during his time with Trish but NOT until they were together for some time. He had long hair at KOTR 2000 and when he won the IC title a couple weeks later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 When did Val cut his hair anyway? I did enjoy his feuds with Ken Shamrock and Goldust back in the ol' Attitude era. I _loved_ the feud with Goldust back in the day, though it was mostly for Goldust's return. Val: "Helllllllllooooo ladies..." *tries to speak more, but the mic goes out* Goldust (over the PA) "Hellllllllloooooooo Val.......It's....showtime...." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 When did Val cut his hair anyway? When he joined up with Trish in 2000. For some reason, I marked like hell for Trish's stable back then. I-C Champ Val and T&A with the tag belts would've been great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Don't feel bad about having an RTC shirt...I was dumb enough to buy a CD of their entrance music. Okay, bad joke, I apologize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I bought the RTC shirt because of Val and Ivory. Oh God, I bought the Right to Censor shirt. ::weeps:: You obviously are referring to the parody of the Chyna-JR interview. That was GOLD!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 27, 2004 T&A with the tag belts would've been great. You seem to forget who "T" was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 T&A with the tag belts would've been great. You seem to forget who "T" was. Test > Everyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Don't feel bad about having an RTC shirt...I was dumb enough to buy a CD of their entrance music. Okay, bad joke, I apologize. I'll take that over whatever the hell that garbage was that Stacy "sings" on WWE Originals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted March 27, 2004 T&A with the tag belts would've been great. You seem to forget who "T" was. Test ruled damn it!@ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Don't feel bad about having an RTC shirt...I was dumb enough to buy a CD of their entrance music. Okay, bad joke, I apologize. I'll take that over whatever the hell that garbage was that Stacy "sings" on WWE Originals. Point taken! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Don't feel bad about having an RTC shirt...I was dumb enough to buy a CD of their entrance music. Okay, bad joke, I apologize. I'll take that over whatever the hell that garbage was that Stacy "sings" on WWE Originals. Seconded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I bought the RTC shirt because of Val and Ivory. Oh God, I bought the Right to Censor shirt. ::weeps:: You obviously are referring to the parody of the Chyna-JR interview. That was GOLD!! Honestly, for that whole December-February, Val and Ivory were quite good, and could have been separated from RTC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 T&A with the tag belts would've been great. You seem to forget who "T" was. Bah. T&A was my team. Once they got used to working together, they were great. There's no reason they shouldn't have gotten a tag title run...at least they were better than Bull and the Goodfather. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 T&A with the tag belts would've been great. You seem to forget who "T" was. Bah. T&A was my team. Once they got used to working together, they were great. There's no reason they shouldn't have gotten a tag title run...at least they were better than Bull and the Goodfather. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Heh, I'm not alone on the Stacy song, then. It's sad when you can't find 3 seconds on an entire song that's listenable. "Honestly, for that whole December-February, Val and Ivory were quite good, and could have been separated from RTC. " Yeah, they could have been great heels, but Vince was more concerned in making fun of the PTC than actually doing something worthwhile with his employees. I remember rumors that Vince himself was going to be the one to stop the RTC at Mania or something, but it didn't happen and just kinda went on until it fizzled out. Bah. T&A was my team. Once they got used to working together, they were great. There's no reason they shouldn't have gotten a tag title run...at least they were better than Bull and the Goodfather. Bah, I marked out for Bull's ripoff of the Ax Kick, and the triangle kick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I remember rumors that Vince himself was going to be the one to stop the RTC at Mania or something, but it didn't happen and just kinda went on until it fizzled out. They broke up not too long after SummerSlam 2001 (I think?) which led up the atrocious Undertaker-Kane / Kronik match at Unforgiven. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I remember rumors that Vince himself was going to be the one to stop the RTC at Mania or something, but it didn't happen and just kinda went on until it fizzled out. They broke up not too long after SummerSlam 2001 (I think?) which led up the atrocious Undertaker-Kane / Kronik match at Unforgiven. Yeah, but I considered the RTC was good and dead when Steven was managing a pair of guys whose gimmicks were based on pot references. EDIT: I called Kronik "wrestlers." My bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I remember rumors that Vince himself was going to be the one to stop the RTC at Mania or something, but it didn't happen and just kinda went on until it fizzled out. They broke up not too long after SummerSlam 2001 (I think?) which led up the atrocious Undertaker-Kane / Kronik match at Unforgiven. I think RTC broke up back in April 2001. At a Smackdown I went to, I remember them breaking out in a brawl after an Ivory/Chyna Women's title match (last time I saw Chyna in person...*sniffles* ). They got back together for the next Raw, but then ended up fighting again. Stevie blamed Undertaker for it somehow. How different do you think WWE would've been had they given RTC a run as top heel group in 2000? It probably would've freshened things up a bit (getting away from the wrestler vs owner storylines) and I think RTC had the heat to pull it off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I remember rumors that Vince himself was going to be the one to stop the RTC at Mania or something, but it didn't happen and just kinda went on until it fizzled out. They broke up not too long after SummerSlam 2001 (I think?) which led up the atrocious Undertaker-Kane / Kronik match at Unforgiven. I think RTC broke up back in April 2001. At a Smackdown I went to, I remember them breaking out in a brawl after an Ivory/Chyna Women's title match (last time I saw Chyna in person...*sniffles* ). They got back together for the next Raw, but then ended up fighting again. Stevie blamed Undertaker for it somehow. How different do you think WWE would've been had they given RTC a run as top heel group in 2000? It probably would've freshened things up a bit (getting away from the wrestler vs owner storylines) and I think RTC had the heat to pull it off. I actually got tired of the RTC quite quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Redhawk Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I remember rumors that Vince himself was going to be the one to stop the RTC at Mania or something, but it didn't happen and just kinda went on until it fizzled out. They broke up not too long after SummerSlam 2001 (I think?) which led up the atrocious Undertaker-Kane / Kronik match at Unforgiven. Yeah, but I considered the RTC was good and dead when Steven was managing a pair of guys whose gimmicks were based on pot references. EDIT: I called Kronik "wrestlers." My bad. Off topic, sorry, but I never saw the infamous Kronik-B.O.D. match. Can someone describe it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeDirt 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 I remember rumors that Vince himself was going to be the one to stop the RTC at Mania or something, but it didn't happen and just kinda went on until it fizzled out. They broke up not too long after SummerSlam 2001 (I think?) which led up the atrocious Undertaker-Kane / Kronik match at Unforgiven. Yeah, but I considered the RTC was good and dead when Steven was managing a pair of guys whose gimmicks were based on pot references. EDIT: I called Kronik "wrestlers." My bad. Off topic, sorry, but I never saw the infamous Kronik-B.O.D. match. Can someone describe it? Sloppy, and really _REALLY_ boring. Really, _REALLY_ slow. I don't know how else to describe it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Off topic, sorry, but I never saw the infamous Kronik-B.O.D. match. Can someone describe it? You can see Undertaker being legitly pissed during the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Val faced and lost to Raven on the pre-show Heat at Judgment Day (i.e. May 2001) and he was still RTC. I remember Steven Richards jobbing very quickly to Tazz on RAW a couple weeks later. RTC was definitely history by the end of June 2001. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewTS 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Didn't RTC break up not long after Kat was fired and Val was kicked out? Originally the plan was to boot Val out of the RTC for having sex with her, but when she was fired they kind of had to hint around that, and it seemed the group dissolved not long after. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted March 27, 2004 RTC never officially broke up, they just disappeared. Val was never kicked out. Kat was fired in February 2001, some months before their disappearance, so it couldn't have been a catalyst. Remember, RTC had two matches at X-7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Papacita 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Didn't RTC break up not long after Kat was fired and Val was kicked out? Originally the plan was to boot Val out of the RTC for having sex with her, but when she was fired they kind of had to hint around that, and it seemed the group dissolved not long after. Well, Kat got fired after No Way Out 2001 and they worked Wrestlemania and a few shows afterwards, but following the Right to Nudity angle, they really didn't do anything noteworthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Bitch 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2004 He had the little IC title push and the cage match with Rikishi at Fully Loaded 2000 where Kish came off the top of the cage with a splash. That was cool, his tribute to Superfly!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Man Of 1,004 Modes Report post Posted March 27, 2004 He had the little IC title push and the cage match with Rikishi at Fully Loaded 2000 where Kish came off the top of the cage with a splash. That was cool, his tribute to Superfly!!! Except Rikishi showed how balanced he was by standing near the MIDDLE of one of the side.s this was before they had those big ass tops on the cage where you can easily stand on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mulatto Heat Report post Posted March 27, 2004 Actually I recall that type of cage being used for that match. I may be wrong though; I haven't seen that match since 2001. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
