Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Yup, you are correct, Kerry does bring up Vietnam a lot, and more than he should, most likely for political gain. So what do the Republicans do in response? Imply that throwing those ribbons or whatever in protest was a BAD THING!?!? It was a good thing. He has them now? They're his fucking medals that he earned in the war. He did "throw them away" to make a point. Nice to see he kind of fudged on it. BTW, medals and ribbons AREN'T interchangeable in one key area --- getting replacements. Getting a replacement medal, by all accounts, isn't easy. Getting replacement ribbons is easy. That speaking out vocally about the bullshit Vietnam was, was a bad thing? It was a good thing. Start with allt he hanoi jane kerry talk? All that stuff which is coming from everywhere. Nothing Kerry did in those times regarding Vietnam was bad in my eyes. He saw people dying over there for NOTHING and came back and vocally protested it. Good on him. He basically called his fellow soldiers war criminals. There's something to be said for the idea of him exploiting Vietnam for political gain, but its damned obvious that's not all that's being said. Now there's an attack on his military record coming from the right (if not bush specifically), but that doesn't change the fact that everything he did at that time was fucking right. Slandering his fellow soldiers is "right"? That's what bothering me moreso, even if they're not saying it they are sure implying it. There's this disconcerting feeling coming from some on the right, which seems to give off the impression that they dont think Vietnam was bad in of itself, but that we failed because of people like Kerry. Heck, I'll go out and SAY it. We lost Vietnam for a few reasons: 1) The gov't made certain targets "off limits" 2) Protestors inspired the N. Vietnamese to continue fighting 3) S. Vietnam's gov't was run by morons. M aybe its imagined (and probably not coming directly from the Bush campaign, just thsoe on his side). Even if Kerry is exploiting every CORRECT thing he did in that time, it's STILL, EVEN WITH THAT EXPLOTATION KNOLEDGE, difficult to take any criticism regarding that era coming from Bush, supporter of the Vietnam war. The right is playing the game of "well Kerry's being bad, so we're gonna be worse" and it leaves an incredible sour taste in my moderate mouth. There are tons of other dumbass Kerry things to criticize him over, (like oh I dont know, that spotty voting record). They do that, too. Kerry calls THAT "questioning my military record and patriotism". This vietnam stuff is fucking stupid. For a guy who was ashamed to be involved in such a horrible war --- he does broadcast his work there A LOT. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripper 0 Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Vyce and Mike think the war in Vietnam was just and hunky dory?? Color me shocked! lol Vietnam rocked, but then again I was stationed at the base with the log ride... Damn...the logride? That war was hell on everybody, man. *cries* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted April 28, 2004 Vyce and Mike think the war in Vietnam was just and hunky dory?? Color me shocked! lol Vietnam rocked, but then again I was stationed at the base with the log ride... Damn...the logride? That war was hell on everybody, man. *cries* You think YOU had it bad? I had friggin' Stallone in my regiment. Geez, we didn't get to do ANYTHING. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
