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Ultimate Athlete FINALS...

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Guest Redhawk

There were like 4-5 soccer players on there, I believe. Granted, I can't name any of them aside from Adu or Beckham, but that's more because I don't watch soccer than anything else. I can barely name any American soccer players.

 

And if foreign athletes don't get any press, why was Peja being hyped as a potential MVP candidate? Why was everyone on Yao Ming's nuts last year? How come I can't walk around Seattle without seeing Ichiro jerseys? Why did Dirk Nowitski make the All-NBA team over more deserving American players? Why are events like the British Open, French Open, World Cup, Olympics and so on covered by thousands of American journalists?

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Guest MikeSC
There were like 4-5 soccer players on there, I believe. Granted, I can't name any of them aside from Adu or Beckham, but that's more because I don't watch soccer than anything else. I can barely name any American soccer players.

 

And if foreign athletes don't get any press, why was Peja being hyped as a potential MVP candidate? Why was everyone on Yao Ming's nuts last year? How come I can't walk around Seattle without seeing Ichiro jerseys? Why did Dirk Nowitski make the All-NBA team over more deserving American players? Why are events like the British Open, French Open, World Cup, Olympics and so on covered by thousands of American journalists?

Because, shockingly enough, they play IN AMERICA.

 

You know, sports are played in places OTHER than the U.S.

 

Any rugby players in the final four?

-=Mike

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Guest Redhawk

So then why do all those events that happen overseas get so much coverage?

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Guest Goodear

The reason I place accomplishments into the realm of this competition is that simply the point of atheletics is based around the point of competition. If you can run faster, throw harder, and lift more than your opponent but still lose, you're doing something incredibly wrong... this is of course not to say that Vick is awful or that hew is doing something incredibly wrong, but there are important milestones he has to reach to be considered elite in my eyes.

 

Americans generally prefer to route for fellow americans or at least people with easy names to pronounce. One of the larger problems Hockey and F1 racing comes from too many players that have been rendered unrecognizable due to their names. Its also different for guys who play on predominately American teams as they stand out from the crowd. When the entire crowd is the same is when they have the problems.

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Guest MikeSC
So then why do all those events that happen overseas get so much coverage?

Oh, yeah, soccer gets TONS of coverage.

 

Rugby? Man, I can't turn a channel and not see it.

 

Int'l track and field? Man, you'd think ESPN showed nothing but that.

 

Sumo? 24/7, BABEE!

 

Japanese baseball? Man, I wish ESPN would stop leading SC with this stuff.

-=Mike

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Guest Redhawk

Yeah, like the World Cup wasn't on ESPN 24/7, even after America was out of it. And we all know the majors that happen overseas get ESPN'd up. And I wish someone would just put those Olympic Games thingees on TV for 18 hours a day....

 

And soccer IS on Fox Sports all the time, so there.

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Guest Goodear

Cycling only gets coverage because of Lance Armstrong, thats it end of list.

 

The other events happening on other countries are generally featuring American athletes like Tennis or Golf. Other than that, the coverage of European sports is about as likely as finding on television as The World's Strongest Man competition.

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Yeah, like the World Cup wasn't on ESPN 24/7, even after America was out of it. And we all know the majors that happen overseas get ESPN'd up. And I wish someone would just put those Olympic Games thingees on TV for 18 hours a day....

 

And soccer IS on Fox Sports all the time, so there.

Care to mention WHEN? I don't EVER see soccer.

 

And if you're still trying to argue that int'l sports get even a fraction of the attention that American sports get here, stop. You're making a fool of yourself.

-=Mike

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Guest Redhawk

I never said they get as much covergae. I said they get significant coverage.

 

Goodear, I don't keep a Fox schedule on me or anything, I just know I often flip past the channel and see some European soccer game on. Usually during the day.

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Guest MikeSC
Cycling only gets coverage because of Lance Armstrong, thats it end of list.

 

The other events happening on other countries are generally featuring American athletes like Tennis or Golf. Other than that, the coverage of European sports is about as likely as finding on television as The World's Strongest Man competition.

Maybe he has the special, international sports feed that so many of us, apparently, lack.

-=Mike

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Guest Goodear
I never said they get as much covergae. I said they get significant coverage.

 

Goodear, I don't keep a Fox schedule on me or anything, I just know I often flip past the channel and see some European soccer game on. Usually during the day.

Let me put it this way... they aren't covered on ESPN, National, or local news casts and are barely blips on the American cultural radar. People now David Beckhem because they named that movie after him and he's a handsome devil, I doubt 4/5s of the people that would recognize the name in the States would even know what team he played for.

 

We're pretty much insulated to the point where if you only followed the three major sports, you could ignore the rest of the world like that.

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I fail to see the meat in your argument that foreign born athletes don't get any attention here in America. Tim Duncan isn't American, he seems to get a lot of press... Gagne isn't American... Steve Nash, Ichiro Suzuki, Albert Pujols, Tony Parker, Yao Ming, Jarome Iginla, Wayne Gretzky, Vlad Guerrero, Sammy Sosa, Manny Ramirez, Miguel Tejada, Pedro Martinez... I don't think I need to continue.

 

So as far as

EVERY FOREIGN ATHLETE EVER.
goes... you're wrong.

I'm referring to foreign athletes that compete OUTSIDE of the United States.

 

You know, since the only names Americans can come up with are Beckham (only the biggest athlete in the WORLD) and athletes that already compete here.

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