Mole 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Just like I did with Buffy, this is the Angel Best of 32 Tournament. Each person gets, I don't know, 4 episodes each to nominate. If it doesn't fill up by Monday, then I will fill the rest out. Apacolypse Nowish You're Welcome Spin the Bottle A New World Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Hole in the World Not Fade Away Home I Will Remember You Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Molotov The Bear 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Well, I havent seen all the episodes, but I've seen enough to pick 4 best. Edit: Fine. Conviction Power Play I Fall To Pieces Rm W/a Vu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 I already nominated most of those...nominate some ones that haven't been mentioned yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Yeah, alll of those were nominated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest wrestlingbs Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Smiletime Harmony's episode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Soulless Waiting in the Wings Guise will be Guise What's the name of the episode where Holtz shows up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Life of the Party Orpheus Hero Reprise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golgo 13 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 I've Got You Under My Skin Billy Forgiving Shells I think you mean "Heroes", Ravenbomb. By the way, I don't know what the Buffy thread entailed, but when the time comes to actually do this, quick summaries for each episode couldn't hurt. That way everyone can know what they're voting for, without disregarding the choice they don't remember or having to look it up online. Either include them in the brackets post or right after that (so you can copy and paste the brackets without summaries). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reekspeak Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Five By Five Sanctuary Sleep Tight Origin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 (edited) In The Dark The Ring Happy Anniversary The Shroud Of Rahmon This is really hard. Angel eps just don't stand out like Buffy. Trying to do this reminds me of how much better Buffy is. Edited May 22, 2004 by Anyanka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenbomb 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 I think you mean "Heroes", Ravenbomb. No, "Hero". The one where Doyle died Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Lullaby - [As Darla violently begins childbirth, Angel faces the responsibility of becoming a father and the possibilities of what miracle or destruction this new being may bring to the world.] Couplet - [Exacerbating the tension caused by the office's two latest couplings, Cordy asks Angel to help her achieve the next level of intimacy with Groosalugg. Meanwhile, Fred and Gunn discuss the new wrinkle in their relationship and track an alleged cheating fiancé, whom they promptly lose during a brief make-out session.] The Girl in Question - [Angel and Spike travel to Rome with plans to rescue Buffy from their old nemesis The Immortal. While in Italy, they also attempt to retrieve the head of a fallen demon leader to prevent a perilous power struggle between several warring demon clans. Julie Benz, Tom Lenk, and Juliet Landau guest star.] Lineage - [The offices of Wolfram & Hart are under attack by cyborg assassins who are seeking a magical device that will give them control over Angel. Meanwhile, Wesley is surprised by the unannounced arrival of his estranged father who has come to evaluate Wesley for possible reacceptance to the Watcher's Council.] Damage - [When an emotionally unstable woman, Dana, escapes from a psychiatric ward, Angel learns that she was tortured as a child and is now searching for her tormentor. Andrew, a watcher-in-training, arrives from England with surprising information about Buffy and to inform the group about Dana. Meanwhile, Spike believes that if he can save Dana, he will prove that he is destined to be the vampire champion.] (yes, I am picking 5) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 I had to get more familiar with the episodes, so I looked at em all and found... Rudo's Recommendations: Season 5: Episode 1: "Conviction" - Gunn gets all lawyery, Harmony becomes Angels secretary, and a bunch of other fun stuff. Episode 4: "Hell Bound" - Spike gets tormented by WR&H's resident soul seeker. Good clean fun. Episode 5: "LIfe of the Party" - Lornes psychic ability fucks everyone up. Good Clean Dirty Fun. Gunn pisses all over the place, Wes and Fred get drunk ~! GREAT episode. Episode 8: "Destiny" - HOLY SHIT IS THAT LINDSEY!!??!!! Episode 10: "Soul Purpose" - Spike takes over for Angel while Angel has bad dreams. Those dreams... are awesome. Episode 12: "You're Welcome" - Cordy returns and she and Eve and Harmony go at it. Just a really fucking good episode. Episode 15: "Hole in the World" - Stunning episode. The peak of Angels emotional core. Awesome. Angel and Spike argue over Cavemen and Astronauts. Episode 16: "Shells" - Really FUCKING good episode where Amy Acker starts to OWN Illyria. Great work all around. Episode 17: "Underneath" - HAMILTON~!!!! Angel saves Lindsey from his eternal punishment... and Gunn takes his place. Episode 18: "Origin" - Connor comes back to kill Sahjahn wrapping up a storyline that started in Season 3. Wes gets back all of his memories. Episode 19: "Time Bomb" - Innovative episode that has Angels Avengers get slaughtered by Illyria. Angel turns bad. Episode 20: "The Girl in Question" - a wonderful, funny, homage to the universe and some great stuff from Angel and Spike. Illyria turning into Fred and Wes' reactions, IMO, makes Wes and Fred the best love story in the 'verse. Episode 21: "Power Play" - it brings everything together and then throws it all out the window cause in one more episode IT'S ON~! Episode 22: "Not Fade Away" - best episode ever. Season 4 Episode 22: "Home" - WR&H offers Angel a chance to run their LA offices. Angel ends Connors pain. FANTASTIC episode. Episode 18: "Shiny Happy People" - Jasmine comes into being, everyone falls in love with her. Fred sees the true Jasmine. Episode 17: "Inside Out" - Angel tries to find out why Cordy is evil, Darla tries to stop Connor from killing an innocent. Episode 13: "Salvage" - THE BEAST dies in a horrible fashion, LILAH haunts Wes, FAITH returns, THE BEAST beats the shit out of her, ANGELUS is fun, CORDY is THE BEASTmaster. Very eventful episode. Episode 10: "Awakening" - Before Angelus can be released, ANGEL goes through the day that will cause his moment of happiness. Episode 8: "Habeas Corpses" - THE BEAST wrecks WR&H's office. NUFF SAYED. Episode 7: "Apocalypse Nowish" - THE BEAST kicks the shit out of Team Angel in an unprecidented way, lights the sky on fire, BADASSWES whips out THE GUNS, and Lilah dresses up like Fred. YOWZA! Episode 6: "Spin the Bottle" - oh the hilARity. Angel as Liam fucking owns shit down hard. THE BEAST makes his debut. Episode 1: "Deep Down" - Angel returns from the sea (rescued by BADASSWES -RECOGNIZE~!), Wes is fucking Lilah, Justine is hidden in his closet... BADASS!! (to be continued - I'll make my official picks once I get them all down) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Season 3 Episode 22: "Tomorrow" - Connor betrays Angel, Cordy ascends. At the time, I really loved this episode because of what Connor did to Angel. I need to see it again, though. Episode 21: "Benediction" - The series gets summed up at this point, a really great episode that tends to get overlooked. Holtz dies as he gives his final "fuck you" to Angel. Episode 20: "A New World" - Connor goes all slow motiony on Angel and its a mindblowing scene. He discovers "a new world" and Angel tries to make a connection. Episode 17: "Forgiving:" - Angel tries to kill Wesley in one of the most haunting scenes in Buffyverse history. Episode 16: "Sleep Tight" - Wesley betrays Angel after a series of events which led him to believe that "The Father will Kill the son"; he gives the child to Holtz who takes him in to a hell dimension and gets cut for his actions. Episode 15: "Loyalty" - Wes becomes distraught when the prophecy begins to come true. This starts a FANTASTIC series of episodes. Episode 10: "Dad" - The Hotel gets surrounded by various demons who want Connor. Holtz recruits Justine. Episode 09: "Lullaby" - Darla sacrifices herself for Connor, Holtz lets Angel and the child live. Really great episode. Episode 6: "Billy" - A very powerful episode that basically kills any chance of Wes getting with Fred for a couple of seasons and has Gunn saving the day. Awesome, awesome stuff. Episode 5: "Fredless" - not an overly great episode, but it has some great stuff in it and legits messes you up on where Mr. and Mrs. Burkles intentions lie. Episode 3: "That Vision Thing" - Skip debuts and his conversation with Angel is fantustic. Billy gets released from his firey prison. Season 2: Episode 1: "Judgement" - Angel sings Mandy. HOW CAN THIS NOT BE IN THE TOURNAMENT!!!? Episode 10: "Reunion" - the first huge "holy shit" moment on the show where Angel leaves the employees of WR&H to the mercy of Darla and Dru in the basement of Hollands home. Episode 11: "Redefinition" - Angel fucks Darla and Dru up proper~! Episode 12: "Blood Money" - Angel screws up WR&H's donation drive; feature a great "tribute" to Holland Mathers and Angel is generally great playing bad. Episode 13: "Happy Anniversary" - Angel and Lorne team up... and sweet jesus does it rule. Episode 15: "Reprise" - this is the episode you HAVE TO see before seeing "Not Fade Away". A Senior Partners visit is impending and Angel wants to go to the "Home Office" on a suicide mission. Relevant? Just a little. Episode 16: "Epiphany" - after fucking Darla, Angel gets set straight and tries to make amends with the crew. I really enjoy this episode and you might notices there was a string of really solid shows here. It really foreshadowned a lot of the greatness in Season 3, 4 and 5. And buh bye Kate, you were really, really, hot. Episode 20-22: "Over the Rainbow", "Through the looking glass", "There's No place like Plrtz Glrb" - Cordy ends up in Pylea and meets Fred, Angel and Co go to save her, a bunch of fun stuff happens... all episodes are fun and "wipes the slate clean" for Season 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Brian Report post Posted May 22, 2004 I forgot Reprise. That has the most stunning revelation in the show. Give me fifth nomination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reekspeak Report post Posted May 22, 2004 City Of has to be nominated, it doesn't need to be anyone's favourite or be considered one of the best episodes, it's simply too important to be ignored. Also, RRR posted a lot of nominations that might be lost in the mix but Lullaby and Calvary are musts too in terms of importance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RavishingRickRudo 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Apacolypse Nowish You're Welcome Spin the Bottle A New World Hole in the World Not Fade Away Home I Will Remember You Conviction Power Play I Fall To Pieces Rm W/a Vu Smiletime Harms way Soulless Waiting in the Wings Guise will be Guise Life of the Party Orpheus Hero Reprise I've Got You Under My Skin Billy Forgiving Shells Five By Five Sanctuary Sleep Tight Origin In The Dark The Ring Happy Anniversary The Shroud Of Rahmon Lullaby Couplet The Girl in Question Lineage Damage Calvary City Of This could turn into a 64 episode tournament, because there's certainly enough episodes to do it. Ok, I'm going to pick One from every season besides season 1 (which I think has already been represented, though I'll go through it later), that hasn't been picked already, and if you decide to go with 64, I'll throw in some more... Season 2: Reunion (Redefinition, Blood Money) Season 3: Benediction (Dad, Forgiving, Loyalty) Season 4: Salvage (Habeas Corpses, Deep Down) Season 5: Destiny (You're Welcome, Time Bomb, Underneath) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mecha Mummy 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 Hero You're Welcome The Shroud of Rahmon Reunion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reekspeak Report post Posted May 22, 2004 I think Waiting in the Wings deserves a nomination too. Dammit, this is so hard and not in the way Anyanka suggests. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted May 22, 2004 I'd be remiss not to mention "Darla" (Season 2) which is a brilliant Tim Minear episode that perfectly meshes flashbacks and present stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2004 By the way, I don't know what the Buffy thread entailed, but when the time comes to actually do this, quick summaries for each episode couldn't hurt. That way everyone can know what they're voting for, without disregarding the choice they don't remember or having to look it up online. Either include them in the brackets post or right after that (so you can copy and paste the brackets without summaries). I will give summaries when the tourney startes. Well, it looks like there is more than 32 episodes chosen. They are: 1. Apacolypse Nowish 2. You're Welcome 3. Spin the Bottle 4. A New World 5. Hole in the World 6. Not Fade Away 7. Home 8. I Will Remember You 9. Conviction 10. Power Play 11. I Fall To Pieces 12. Room With A View 13. Smile Time 14. Harms' Way 15. Soulless 16. Waiting in the Wings 17. Guise will be Guise 18. Offspring 19. Life of the Party 20. Orpheus 21. Hero 22. Reprise 23. I've Got You Under My Skin 24. Billy 25. Forgiving 26. Shells 27. Five By Five 28. Sanctuary 29. Sleep Tight 30. Origin 31. In The Dark 32. The Ring 33. Happy Anniversary 34. The Shroud Of Rahmon 35. Lullaby 36. Couplet 37. The Girl in Question 38. Lineage 39. Damage 40. Reunion 41. Benediction 42. Salvage 43. Destiny 44. City Of... This could turn into a 64 episode tournament, because there's certainly enough episodes to do it. Ok, I'm going to pick One from every season besides season 1 (which I think has already been represented, though I'll go through it later), that hasn't been picked already, and if you decide to go with 64, I'll throw in some more... That is a good idea seeing how I can't get rid of 12 episodes. I tried but it is too hard to. So here is the new list, including RRR's extra ones, Superstar's pick with "Darla," and 2 more from me. 1. Apacolypse Nowish 2. You're Welcome 3. Spin the Bottle 4. A New World 5. Hole in the World 6. Not Fade Away 7. Home 8. I Will Remember You 9. Conviction 10. Power Play 11. I Fall To Pieces 12. Room With A View 13. Smile Time 14. Harms' Way 15. Soulless 16. Waiting in the Wings 17. Guise will be Guise 18. Offspring 19. Life of the Party 20. Orpheus 21. Hero 22. Reprise 23. I've Got You Under My Skin 24. Billy 25. Forgiving 26. Shells 27. Five By Five 28. Sanctuary 29. Sleep Tight 30. Origin 31. In The Dark 32. The Ring 33. Happy Anniversary 34. The Shroud Of Rahmon 35. Lullaby 36. Couplet 37. The Girl in Question 38. Lineage 39. Damage 40. Reunion 41. Benediction 42. Salvage 43. Destiny 44. City Of... 45. Darla 46. Redefinition 47. Blood Money 48. Dad 49. Forgiving 50. Loyalty 51. Salvage 52. Habeas Corpses 53. Deep Down 54. Destiny 55. Time Bomb 56. Underneath 57. Soul Purpose 58. Birthday 59. Are You Now 60. Have You Ever Been 4 more episodes are needed, so vote away. Obviously it will be the episodes that are voted first, so vote quickly. EDIT: Spiny nominated Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been. So the list is updated, only 4 more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiny norman 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2004 I disagree with making it 64 seeing as that's going to be more than 50% of every episode ever made, but whatever. I'll nominate Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been, because I don't think I saw that on this list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mole 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2004 I disagree with making it 64 seeing as that's going to be more than 50% of every episode ever made, but whatever. I'll nominate Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been, because I don't think I saw that on this list. Yeah I hear ya bro, but it is VERY hard to get rid of 12 episodes. Plus I can't leave out my nigga RRR with his picks, that wouldn't be fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2004 If those of us who have nominated already are allowed to do so again we can get 64. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaParkaYourCar 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2004 Okay then here's the four you need: Parting Gifts Somnambulist To Shanshu in LA The Trial Dang...in looking for four more episodes I noticed that a lot of throwaways made it in while some good episodes didn't. Did some people just throw out the most random episode they could think of? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2004 Yeah, really. 11. I Fall To Pieces 12. Room With A View 32. The Ring 33. Happy Anniversary 34. The Shroud Of Rahmon These eps are, well, really bad. What about "Judgment", "Epiphany", or "Dead End"? Oh, and "Are you now or have you ever been" is one ep, not two Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anya 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2004 Those eps are not bad. Unlike Buffy the storyarc eps of Angel all bleed together and are unmemorable on their own. The best eps, as far as picking out a single choice, are the monster of the week stuff and those are good ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Kingsley 0 Report post Posted May 23, 2004 Those eps are not bad. Unlike Buffy the storyarc eps of Angel all bleed together and are unmemorable on their own. The best eps, as far as picking out a single choice, are the monster of the week stuff and those are good ones. Unmemorable? Examples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
