Guest Italian Stallion Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 I don't ussually come in here so I wouldn't know if there has been threads about the last two races but I might as well add one for the Belmont Stakes running. Welll anyways, here are the stakes going in for the morning of the race. Master David 20-1 Purge 5-1 Camain 50-1 Birdstone 15-1 Rock Hard Ten 8-1 Royal Assault 20-1 Tap Dancer 50-1 Eddington 10-1 Smarty Jones 2-5 So lets here everyones predictions for the race. Give me till tomorrow to really think about it and I'll post mine.
Guest Choken One Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 He BETTER do it. I'm sick of the standard horse wins the first two legs and everyone hypes it up...talks lovely about Affirmed and Secacariart(sp?) and shit and the horse blows it. It doesn't mean anything anymore...I like the fact it makes the triple crown much more elusive but it's a exhusting and annoying story. Last year was the PERFECT timing...with the Seabescuit movie coming out and a charismatic (if thats even possible for a horse) going for it...
Guest Italian Stallion Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 I think he will do it. Purge is a good runner but I wouldn't put my money on him winning. I think Rock Hard Ten, depending on position will come out strong and be more of a threat to Smarty than Purge who has the better odds. It's really hard to bet or predict on the Belmont because I dont know the history of all the horses and it will be hard to learn it all. And of course weather has its effects like we saw at the Kentucky Derby.
nl5xsk1 Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 I think that he will ... he ran away from the field so convincingly at the Preakness it'd be tough to bet against him. Plus, he's shown that he can run in the mud, so bad weather shouldn't effect him too much if it does take a turn for the worse. I'm doing a tri-box on Smarty, RH10 & Eddington (not a huge Purge fan) and probably just throw a $20 on Royal Assault to show (always have to bet at least one 'dog)
C Dubya 04 Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Unless there is some kind of freak occurance (ie, stumbling out of the gate, getting hurt, jockey falling off) I think that Smarty runs away with this one again. It's a combination that he's a great horse, and the competition just isn't there this year. He's about as much of a lock as any horse can be in my book. I'm going to end up throwing a couple of Superfecta's out there for the hell of it. Then I'll probably do two Exacta's (Smarty and Rock & Smarty & Eddington) as well as taking a dog for show and maybe a sawbuck on Smarty to win. I love the track.
Guest Italian Stallion Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Im going with a couple superfectas also. Smaty Jones Hard Rock Ten Purge Eddington Smarty Jones Eddington Hard Rock Ten Master David I will probably put $50 on my first superfecta and $20 on my second one. I will throw in some other smaller ones out there like single bets on Smarty Jones and Master David also the day of the race. On the Preakness, I was lucky enough to come out $250 richer so maybe my luck will still shine on me Saturday.
Vern Gagne Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Hoping I'm wrong I think Rock Hard Ten will win. He's got the size, and endurance for the Belmont.Hank Goldberg also said he's run great this entire week. Also at the Preakness, he threw a fit going in to the starting gate, and still finished second.
Damaramu Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Well today is the day. I think America is pulling for Smarty.
Guest Agent of Oblivion Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Or else it's off to the glue factory.
KingPK Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 I'm watching ESPN's coverage, and so far today a new track record was set on the dirt and THAT was almost topped a race later. The track seems really fast today, and it looks like the rain will hold off, so if Stewart Elliot can keep him from shooting out of the gate and tiring out on the backstretch (especially since he's on the outside to start), which has felled other horses (Funny Cide last year), I think he'll take it.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 quick question...are they keeping it on NBC with the coverage of Reagans death and all...I was wondering if they would ship it to ESPN or will they just go forth and air the race neways. edit: well looks like they went back to AFL...so i guess it will stay on the race.
KingPK Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 (edited) Huh, here comes the rain just in time for the race. I played a 9-4 exacta box and a 4-5-9 tri key. Edited June 5, 2004 by Kingpk
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 I just turned it to espn 10 minutes ago it was sunny as hell...and now it's pouring... Is this good or bad for Smarty?
Guest Anglesault Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 I think Smarty is good on a wet track.
KingPK Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 (edited) The track was sloppy at the Derby, wasn't it? And that was after a big storm passed. This is the first steady rain of the day, so I guess the track won't be that bad (there is one more race to go before the Belmont, though). Edited June 5, 2004 by Kingpk
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 I love how they make it out like this is the biggest deal in sports if a Horse can run faster then other horses... The damn horse doesn't even know it's racing. I've always wanted to see a horse race without Midgets on thier backs whipping them... if it is so fucking "natural" take those dwarfs off them.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 The track was sloppy at the Derby, wasn't it? Yes it was...it was sloppy as hell but isn't the track longer at Belmont? That should factor in... <Knows very little about the tracks... I love bob costas pimping of Gambling...
KingPK Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 (edited) The Belmont is the longer track of the three. It's a mile and a half long, the only major horse race to be run on a dirt track that long. And the jockeys do have a purpose, you know. They're like NASCAR drivers; they steer the horse and make sure it is on a good pace. Edited June 5, 2004 by Kingpk
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 I dont get why people gather to see something that will last 2 minutes at the most and you'll make little money off it either... I know it's historical and all but still...
KingPK Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 And I don't get why people gather to watch a bunch of cars go around the same oval 200 times, but different strokes for different folks and all.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 The Belmont is the longer track of the three. It's a mile and a half long, the only major horse race to be run on a dirt track that long. And the jockeys do have a purpose, you know. They're like NASCAR drivers; they steer the horse and make sure it is on a good pace. Cars don't drive themselfs...Horses do.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 And I don't get why people gather to watch a bunch of cars go around the same oval 200 times, but different strokes for different folks and all. The prospect of a 23 car pile up and not being in the damn thing is appealing and the Beer and the Half Naked Southern Gals in the infield is a damn appealing as well.
Guest Anglesault Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 And I don't get why people gather to watch a bunch of cars go around the same oval 200 times, but different strokes for different folks and all. Hopes of seeing a Car crash. The only thing I can figure.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 You need about 50 minutes to hype something that lasts 2 minutes... Kinda like Foreplay and Sex.
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 It's a god damn horse! Gotta love NBC trying to suck out every inch of sap it can for this.
Guest FrigidSoul Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 And I don't get why people gather to watch a bunch of cars go around the same oval 200 times, but different strokes for different folks and all. Hopes of seeing a Car crash. The only thing I can figure. So are we suppose to watch this in hopes of a 20 Horse pile up?
Guest Choken One Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 And I don't get why people gather to watch a bunch of cars go around the same oval 200 times, but different strokes for different folks and all. Hopes of seeing a Car crash. The only thing I can figure. So are we suppose to watch this in hopes of a 20 Horse pile up? that certainty would be memorable and maybe Rock Hard 10 and Smarty can channel Richard Petty/David Pearson's 1976 Daytona 500 finish.
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