EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I figure the draft deserves its own thread. I'm just looking over the results now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Figures the Reds and Brewers roll the dice with high school pitchers. Scott Boras continues to turn the draft into an auction, which is troubling. Jared Weaver falls to the Angels, and some think he could be MLB ready by late this year, although unlikely. Interesting to see Paul DePodesta take a high school pitcher with the Dodgers first pick. The Moneyball philosophy is indeed flexible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Really liking the A's draft so far, esp. the picks of Powell, Putnam, Street, Rogers and Suzuki. Also love Boston's pick of Pedroia too, 25 extra base hits out of 69 total and 33 BB's vs 10 K's. I'm looking forward to seeing who takes Brad Canada(Bradley University). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 All I have to say is CATCHER~! Lieby is going to start getting on his last legs in the next two years probably, and (al correct me if I am wrong) I don't think there is anything resembling a catching prospect in the system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Lieby is going to start getting on his last legs in the next two years probably, and (al correct me if I am wrong) I don't think there is anything resembling a catching prospect in the system. There's barely anything representing a catcher in the system, let alone one with prospects. Great commercial for Oakland A's merchandise aired, featuring Chad Bradford calling Ken Macha from the bullpen. "Bradford, for the last time, I call you, not the other way around!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Noticing that the latest Phils pick (another catcher) is younger than my little sister just dampened my day a little bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Welcome to aging. I'm older than the Phillies big two pitching prospects, and there are now porn stars younger than my younger sister. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob E Dangerously 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I'm older than the Royals first round pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I am 5 years older than the Phillies 1st rounder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarvinisaLunatic 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Name: Wade Townsend Height/Weight: 6-3 / 230 Bats/Throws: R / R Date of Birth: 2/22/83 School: Rice #6 college prospect according to Baseball America, #8 prospect overall. #6 college prospect according to TeamOneBaseball. #2 prospect in the Cape Cod League and a first-team preseason All-American according to BA. #1 prospect on the Cape according to scouts. Strong-bodied pitcher with wide shoulders & hips. Comfortably throws in the low to mid-90s, and maintains his velocity well throughout a game. Also throws a big breaking knuckle curveball and a decent changeup. Has been used as a closer at Rice, where he excelled with his impressive 1-2 power punch. His true value is in the starting rotation. With all pitchers the size of Townsend you are always going to hear about how he needs to keep his conditioning in check. Has had some reported character issues, but those may lead to an incredible competetive nature that just needs to be expressed in a more positive fashion. His body & stuff may draw comparison to pitchers such as Curt Schilling, Roger Clemens & Sidney Ponson. Does that mean he's going to gain 50 lbs and pitch like crap after signing, cause if thats so they can just not sign him, as we already have that player. And supposedly he could pitch here (Delmarva Shorebirds A Ball) sometime this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I am really surprised Mike Arbuckle has taken two college pitchers before grabbing a HS one. Of course looking at their fifth round pick's 2004 stat line just made me throw up in my mouth. Andy Baldwin OSU 65.1 IP 27 BB 46 K 20 XBH 8 HRs .319 BAA 7 HBP 3 WP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vern Gagne 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 So far 6 of 8 players selected by the Twins have been pitchers. The first player taken by the Twins SS- Treavor Plouffe is listed has the 3rd best hitting prospect by Baseball America. Something tells me the Twins won't be able to sign him, and he'll end up at USC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I like this draft as they fucking mow through these picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
geniusMoment 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I am a little dissapointed the Reds drafted a high school pitcher, as they always seem to not turn out or get hurt for the reds. With that said Baseball America rated Bailey as the high school pitcher with the best fastball, breaking ball and command, as well as saying he was the closest to the major leagues out of all of the high school pitchers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 As the Phils take their 5th college player in 7 picks I am still shocked Arbuckle hasn't taken a HS pitcher. Either they are really bad this year, he has changed his ways a bit, or someone took the ball away from him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I'm liking the A's draft more and more. Michael Rogers ranked 6th in x(I'm assuming Extrapolated?)Runs Saved Above Aerage(with 100 being average) ahead of guys like Wade Townsend, J.P. Howell and David Purcey and Jason Windsor was ranked 2nd behind only Jered Weaver and these rankings were out of the Top 100 Division I NCAA pitchers. Here's the Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Tommy Lasorda sounds like he is trying out the be a ring announce. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I like this draft as they fucking mow through these picks. Each team has 30 seconds to make a pick. Its easy as they have them planned in advance, and there's no trading picks as there is in the NBA and NFL. Good thing, because otherwise the draft would last months. Glad to see the Phillies taking college pitchers. The payoff for college players in general is 2-4x that of high school players. For every Josh Beckett, there are dozens of Brien Taylors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 Best info line of the draft (height and weight bolded) 272 ANDREW MACFARLANE TREASURE VALLEY CC LF R/L 0'0" 0 1983-08-18 JR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I happen to have the Phillies draft on my screen. MLB obviously knows nothing about MacFarlane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 13th Round Arbuckle finally took a HS pitcher, 123 Ks in 60 IPs isn't bad though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted June 7, 2004 I like the Sox selection of Clay Meredith in the 6th round. MR who could turn into a SP similar to Jon Papelbon from last year's draft. 2004 stats, 2.55 ERA in 67 IP with 12 BB and 84 K's. 2003 he had a 1.19 ERA in 60.1 IP with 16 BB and 70 K's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2004 A great line from another board..... Has there ever been a draft - in any sport - where a team's GM and scouting people stood up afterward and wailed, "Oh noooo! We're totally fucked! We drafted mugs, pugs, lugs and thugs, dimwits and half-wits! Fans, our farm system looks like something out of The Grapes of Wrath! And it's... all... our... fault!" If that's happened, I'd love to hear about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2004 Phillies 27th round pick Jason Appel's write up COMMENT: WIRY, THIN, ATHLETIC BUILD TOP TO BOTTOM. SMALL-MEDIUM FRAME. MEDIUM, SLOPED SHOULDERS. LONG ARMS & LEGS. SIMILAR TO EX-MAJOR LEAGUER JASON TYNER. ESPECIALLY WIDE, WEIGHT BACK STANCE. ON TOP OF PLATE, LOOKS TO PULL. GAME REVOLVES AROUND SPEED. ABOVE AVG RUN ABILITY, 3.6 ON BUNT. EASY OUTF ACTIONS, ABLE TO RUN DOWN MOST. AGGRESSIVE. LIKES TO BUNT. POTENTIAL TO BE ON BASE THREAT IF USES SPEED. To steal a line from The Sports Guy: "In other words...pass." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2004 Well, I wrote down the 2004 stats of 71 guys for Excel and so far 14 have been drafted. I'm surprised guys like Jed Lowrie, Tom Caple and Eric McNamee haven't been drafted yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2004 Red Sox drafted Tom Caple out of San Diego making me super happy. Guy had 55 BB's and 28 K's in 206 AB's, hit around .320 with a .498 OBP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2004 Everybody knows that Oakland, Toronto and Boston are "moneyball" teams but did anybody else find it interesting that St. Louis had a Moneyball type draft? 40 college players taken, 4 high schoolers and 3 junior college players. San Francisco also had a bit ofa Moneyball approach with 34 college players selected, 10 high schoolers and 5 junior college players. For comparison: Boston was 31/13/5, Oakland was 35/5/4(1st team to stop making picks), Toronto was 35/5/12 and Los Angeles was 16/22/14. Arizona was also targeting college players, taking 30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites