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there isn't a single original thought or joke in the entire post. It's a bunch of common IWC in-jokes punctuated with hyperbole, and other typical SKish writing devices.

 

Flair getting angry for using wrestler terms, etc. That was all funny two months ago. Can't you guys come up with your own jokes instead of repeating others ad naseum? I know Curry is perfectly capable of being entertaining.

 

Put less effort into impressing people and more effort into writing something concise and with original thought and you'll really have something.

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I'm just extremely upset that my reference of DrTom being Tina Turner wasn't acknowledged.

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Put less effort into impressing people and more effort into writing something concise and with original thought and you'll really have something.

Of course, there are certain people here (not necessarily you) who won't be happy until everything on this board is pure blind positivity.

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fuck positivity. There's nothing wrong with negative thoughts. I'm the most negative person here.

 

But you can be original and negative instead of just repeating things over and over again.

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But you can be original and negative instead of just repeating things over and over again.

But if you agree with something that's already been said, and the situation is no different, I don't see any real need to be original.

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agreeing and making the same jokes over and over again and trying to pass them off as your own are two completely different things.

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Are you over this yet, CWM?

 

I kinda hope not because seeing you reply with such forced anger makes me laugh. If these are the kind of things that rile you up in life.......

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You might want to take a look at your partner before you go talking about being easily riled up

Rudo's problems are Rudo's problems.

 

Why you said this to me, I don't know. Oh, wait, I do. It's because you were trying to start something.

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debating a point and "forced anger" are two different things.

 

I thought you knew that.

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How is all of this NOT considered trolling?

 

Slayer, CWM, and Kotz have not said a single thing regarding the Garisson Cade article and their only purpose in this thread is to bait Curry and me (mostly me) into a flame war. They have absolutely no legitimate purpose here and no intention for WWE discussion. Do they get a warning? No. I'd like to hear -from a mod- an explanation as to why their presense in this thread is warranted. PM me or respond in this thread, please.

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I made a bunch of comments about the article. I suppose you're too busy being on your pedastel to realize that.

 

Of course it's prefectly acceptable to you for people to sing your praises but not to offer critical feedback?

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The *article* which I am talking about is the WWE.com one - we just posted our responses to it.

 

The purpose of your "critical feedback" was to elicit a negative response and to bring the the thread completely off-topic - which you have done successfully (steer it off topic, that is), so congratulations. The "praises" kept the thread static, so it didn't promote going off-topic. Yours did. So where is the punishment for trolling?

 

This is the last response you'll get from me because I'm only contributing to this mess.

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It wasn't trolling. I've already talked to a number of mods to make sure. I wouldn't want to ruin your thread.

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there isn't a single original thought or joke in the entire post. It's a bunch of common IWC in-jokes punctuated with hyperbole, and other typical SKish writing devices.

 

Flair getting angry for using wrestler terms, etc. That was all funny two months ago. Can't you guys come up with your own jokes instead of repeating others ad naseum? I know Curry is perfectly capable of being entertaining.

 

Put less effort into impressing people and more effort into writing something concise and with original thought and you'll really have something.

I am very new here, but you come off as a whining bitch and Rudo/Curry come off as annoyed with you being a whining bitch.

 

 

Maybe you shoudl stop that.

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there isn't a single original thought or joke in the entire post. It's a bunch of common IWC in-jokes punctuated with hyperbole, and other typical SKish writing devices.

 

Flair getting angry for using wrestler terms, etc. That was all funny two months ago. Can't you guys come up with your own jokes instead of repeating others ad naseum? I know Curry is perfectly capable of being entertaining.

 

Put less effort into impressing people and more effort into writing something concise and with original thought and you'll really have something.

I am very new here, but you come off as a whining bitch and Rudo/Curry come off as annoyed with you being a whining bitch.

 

 

Maybe you shoudl stop that.

that's very nice.

 

they ask for feedback and I gave them feedback. Nor am I the only person who feels that way. A number of people do.

 

I value intelligent discussion in the wrestling folder. If I want in-jokes and the like then I got to Hardocre Discussion.

 

there's a fine balance between joking around and intelligent discussion. too much of the jokes turns into postwhoring, too little takes the fun out of the place.

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I made a bunch of comments about the article. I suppose you're too busy being on your pedastel to realize that.

 

Of course it's prefectly acceptable to you for people to sing your praises but not to offer critical feedback?

You never made comments abot the article, u made comments about the authors of the article. Not once have u talked about Garrison Cade or the WWE.

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Watch how this amazing feat of strength works...

 

CC, who is a WWE Folder mod, has already said that the post (column/article/whatever/blahblah) is fine with her. Now, being that she is indeed one of the WWE folder mods, and she's already said something about the status of the post, I think it'd be neat if we could all adhere to that.

 

Does that mean that it's a set in stone law? No. Does that mean that the next time one of these posts come up, the reaction/"ruling" will be different? Quite possibly. Will the post be looked at and thought about so as not to cause a scene? Of course. With CC/Goodear/Loss as mods, regardless of your personal biases against them, they are as objective as they can be towards threads that come up as "questionable" in whatever folders.

 

I think that if you all actually left things up to mods discretion rather than trying to predict or anticipate what mods will do, we'll all lead happier board lives.

 

Now, get back to the topic of the thread.

 

-Josh

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Guest Rrrsh
there isn't a single original thought or joke in the entire post. It's a bunch of common IWC in-jokes punctuated with hyperbole, and other typical SKish writing devices.

 

Flair getting angry for using wrestler terms, etc. That was all funny two months ago. Can't you guys come up with your own jokes instead of repeating others ad naseum? I know Curry is perfectly capable of being entertaining.

 

Put less effort into impressing people and more effort into writing something concise and with original thought and you'll really have something.

I am very new here, but you come off as a whining bitch and Rudo/Curry come off as annoyed with you being a whining bitch.

 

 

Maybe you shoudl stop that.

that's very nice.

 

they ask for feedback and I gave them feedback. Nor am I the only person who feels that way. A number of people do.

 

I value intelligent discussion in the wrestling folder. If I want in-jokes and the like then I got to Hardocre Discussion.

 

there's a fine balance between joking around and intelligent discussion. too much of the jokes turns into postwhoring, too little takes the fun out of the place.

Talk to the mods if you feel that way, dude. CC has said its staying, so its staying. Deal.

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Guest cobainwasmurdered

Well this is a "Discussion" board.

 

Everyone was here feedbacking on what they said. As did I. How many people here offered comments on Cade? Almost none.

 

on a messageboard yoy reply to not just the news but to posts by other posters. That is what I did.

 

Not to mention that this is clearly a fantasy article and giving feedback on the authors is what's needed.

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Guest Rrrsh
Well this is a "Discussion" board.

 

Everyone was here feedbacking on what they said. As did I. How many people here offered comments on Cade? Almost none.

 

on a messageboard yoy reply to not just the news but to posts by other posters. That is what I did.

 

Not to mention that this is clearly a fantasy article and giving feedback on the authors is what's needed.

It is not a fantasy article, it was commentary on a WWE.com article. Just becasue you dont agree with their type of commentary dosnt change that fact that it was just that.

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Last post on this subject.

 

Ignoring my feelings on where it should or should not have been posted I still was responding to their post. There's nothing wrong with that, in fact that's the POINT of posting on a messageboard.

 

Now let's get back to the topic

 

I have no real problem with Garrison Cade. He's not a total screw up like alot of the other wrestler that are produced by the WWE lately. He needs to develop a personality but that takes time.

 

EDIT: I didn't even see your post Ill

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In 1999, during the Superbowl, the then-WWF ran an advertisment which had "owner" Vince McMahon walk through the halls of Titan Towers where various whacky acts would be performed surrounding him and he would act as all of it was natural and not bat an eye. At the end of this ad, the words "Get it?" appeared.. It was a brilliant tag-line that served two purposes: one, it made the WWE catchy where the people who "got it" loved it; and two, it said "get it", as in, purchase, support, and watch it. The WWE.com article entitled "RAW's Garrison Cade feels like the luckiest man in the world" is another example of how, today, the WWE simply doesn't "get it".

 

The article is extremely bland and utterly pointless, which is fitting because so is Garisson Cade. It appears that the only purpose of it is to get over how "lucky" and "honored" he is to be in the WWE - two words that were repeated throughout and which he no doubt is. But, does anyone care that Cade feels this way? I certainly don't. Why would that be? Well, I think it is because I -as a fan- have absolutely no connection with the guy. All I really know about him is that he is tanned and wears cowboy boots in the ring. This article had the opportunity to "get over" a character -any character- that could possibly appeal to the fans, but instead they wrote a very basic interview full of, really, "nothing" at all.

 

The "notables" are that he trained with Shawn Michaels, has achieved so much in such a short time, and doesn't see himself as being ready to teach others.

 

What did he learn under Shawn? Well, he "learned alot" and that Shawn was the best teacher he could ever have. What did he learn? I still have no clue. I wonder if Shawn taught Cade all the "tricks" he used to get ahead in the wrestling world. I wonder if Shawn taught him how to backstab a friend, or how to demean other wrestlers, or how to "drop" the title without ever having to get pinned for it. Somehow I don't think THAT is what Cade was taught. Instead, he was probably taught how to throw a really nice dropkick and suck up to others.

 

What has he acheived? Well, he's a former tag champion who has been in a championship match at Wrestlemania XX. He has wrestled the likes of Ric Flair and been in the ring with The Rock. The article actually makes it sound like he was in the ring with The Rock, HHH, and Ric Flair in a championship match at WM XX; even though, in reality, he was in a 8-man tag that had no build or actual purpose. He was a throw-away wrestler in a throw-away match, but it was at the "biggest event ever"... this, they say, is an honor. What has he actually acheived? Very little. He hasn't managed to distinguish himself from any other of the well-built, extremely tanned guys who can throw a nice dropkick on the roster. The fans don't actually care whether or not he was in the ring with Ric Flair or that he held a WWE championship. Yet, this article assumes that we care about any of this. They don't give us a reason to, but they assume we do care.

 

And that is a major problem with the WWE -in general- today. They want us to care without making the effort in getting us to care. We are supposed to care about Litas problems with Matt and Kane. Why? A similar thought occured to me while watching the Dudleys vs. Storm/Venis - a heat match a week before WM XX to see who gets to be in the aforementioned throw-away 8 man tag. Venis and Storm were cheating and I wondered, "Do they cheat because they are bad, or are they bad because they cheat?". The perspective the WWE takes is that they cheat because they are bad. They assume we will boo their cheating because they are heels. They assume we will feel bad for Lita because she is "good". They assume we care about Cade because he used to be a wrestling fan "in the mid-80's". This perspective, at least how I see it, is wrong. It is a common habit in bad movies, where the villain is just a generic "bad guy" who does things because he's, well, "bad". Cade is "lucky" and "honored" because, well, they say so.

 

In 1999 Vince McMahon would have said he "let's the fans choose who to cheer and who to boo", because "things aren't black and white... but shades of Grey". Well, in the WWE today, things are very white; infact, they're vanilla.

 

There is no distinction to 95% of the wrestlers out there. And that 5% that are unique - the Eugenes and the Cena's (well, not Cena any more) - they get cheered like crazy. You'd think someone like Cade would see this and try to develop a character of his own, so he can stand out. Become "HBCade" and perhaps parody his blandness. I'm not talking about "boring" Lance Storm, but rather, have him believe that he is the most exciting man in the world despite -or inspite- of his inherant "whiteness". And don't have JR out-right say "this boy believes he's the most exciting man in the world", because spelling it out insults the fans' intelliegence. You have to let the fans find it on their own. So that once the fans "get it", they can see something distinctive about him and actually *gasp* remember his name. With Cena, he just threw the mic up whenever he said something that rhymed with "Shit" or "Fuck" and the crowd would say it for him - it was one of the reasons he got over. He didn't insult the fans' intelligence, he didn't do it "because he was bad", he did it because that's him and you decide if that makes him bad or good - the fans decided good.

 

Articles like this don't let the fans decide; they tell the fans what to think. And you know what? The fans know what to think, and when they read crap like this, they think "I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading an article that had no bearing on anything at all." The only good thing I can say about this or Cade is that he at least knows how to suck up to the right people - which I guess is better than having talent or being interesting. He put over HHH, Ric Flair, the Rock, making sure he got their names in saying he tells others to go ask "them" for help, like Ric Flair could help anyone when he can't even help himself from getting out of this depressive and repetitive wrestling state. Why ask those guys? Because they're veterans. "Get it"?

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Gentleman, I found the whole commentary a bit pointless and not funny. I realize that WWE.com may not have the most talented of writers working for them, but mocking one about Garrison Cade of all people is just unnecessary. I was not impressed with it at all. I felt like I was reading Scott Keith rambling about pointless crap.

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