One more warped idea

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

but.. let me go though it for you guys who didn't watch Stampede (I didn't either, which is why i'm C/Ping it)

 

But now the tape is saved! In 1988, even as the promotion was dying, booker Bruce Hart nearly managed to create the one angle that might have given it another burst of life if fate hadn’t intervened. Needing a new monster heel, he found huge-but-unknown Karl Moffat and stuck him in a pair of white coveralls and gave him a hockey mask as the entire range of his character, naming him Jason the Terrible after Friday the 13th. Then, in the brilliant part, he took WWF jobber Barry “O” Orton and turned him into a whacked-out masked manager called “The Zodiak” who prayed to the Almighty Luke and used a voice-distortion box to do all the talking. All of their promos were shot over a moving starfield and then filtered so the colors were reversed. On the first one shown here, Jason spends the whole interview growling in the background, before getting so excited at the prospect of beating up Mr. Hito that he attacks the cameraman with his ever-present axe until Zodiak makes him calm down and pray for forgiveness from Luke on the spot. To say these guys got a cult following would be a drastic understatement – Jason got so over as a monster heel (in fact one that established the exact template from which Kane was created 10 years later – hell, Jason was so scary that even Mr. Hito started wearing boots for the first time in about 10 years) that he was turned face a few months later and probably would have taken his act to the WWF if Davey Boy Smith hadn’t nearly killed him in a car wreck soon after. Moffat’s leg was shattered and his career was essentially ended. Zodiak became unneeded and lost a mask v. mask match against Jason, revealing Barry Orton, at which point Ed Whalen completed the burial by noting that he didn’t recognize him.

 

(..)

 

Anyway, there’s been a ton of people playing the fearsome Jason character since Stampede, but none of them had the panache that Karl Moffat did with it. I think that it was because had black wrist tape and painted a white “J” on each one. I dunno why, but for someone as essentially crazy as Jason the Terrible to take the time to do that always struck me as really neat.

 

Basically.. I'd like if they sorta tried that again. Even if they did sorta sample it before. They can go farther.

 

Are there any big indy guys who could fit this role? Then again, Moffat doesn't appear to tower over Owen Hart ( http://slam.canoe.ca/WrestlingImagesHarts/owen_jason.jpg ).

 

One name I like for a Humongous/Jason-ish monster is "Maxx Mayhem"

 

any thoughts?

[Guest Holzhammer]

I don't think it would get over anymore. Even Sid's Humongous character wasn't over one bit.

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

I think Sid did that in Memphis around 1988.

[Guest Holzhammer]

I think Sid did that in Memphis around 1988.

Wouldn't know when. Somewhere around 88, yeah.

 

But if a gimmick like that wasn't over back then when we still had a lot of gimmicks, why would it be over now?

[Rob E Dangerously 0]

and he did it in Memphis too.

 

Although there is probably a shelf-life for a monster

[Spaceman Spiff 0]

I don't think it would work in today's WWE.

 

1) These "extreme" gimmicks don't work in today's wrestling world (at least in the WWE, don't know about the indy's). Fans would most likely treat it as a joke, and once that happens, the gimmick is cooked.

 

2) Big, talentless lugs don't get over either. Or, at least ones that are new to the fed. Fans are smarter today, and can pick up on when a guy is crap (see Heidenreich, Suzuki, Tomko, Nathan Jones).