Guest Shaved Bear Report post Posted February 11, 2002 why you looking here...vote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KoR Fungus Report post Posted February 11, 2002 Either NES or SNES is going to win, but I say PS1. SNES was very close, and I think the all time best game for its time was FF VI on the SNES, but PS1 just advanced gaming so much. It's the first console that could really do 3D games, and so many series that I really love got their start there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Gangsta Report post Posted February 11, 2002 It was close between NES and Genesis, but I went with NES. I mean, sure I love my PS2 and my X-Box, and I loved PS1, BUT...I'm just not addicted to those systems like I was with the NES and Genesis. I would just sit there an play for HOURS and HOURS. Dragon Warrior and Super Mario Bros. and Ninja Gaiden and Castlevania and Final Fantasy...and all that goodness. NES just ruled it, plain and simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted February 11, 2002 PS2. Can't forget that it can play PSX games. The PSX library has more than something for everyone and even a bunch of older classics(like FF VI). The PS2 library isn't bad itself, especially considering it's not that old. You've got FFX, MGS2, TTT(soon to be T4), GTA3, ect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DrTom Report post Posted February 11, 2002 "PS2. Can't forget that it can play PSX games." Because it uses a PSX as the I/O controller. Backwards compatibility isn't exactly a technological wonder. Don't get me wrong; I love my PS2. I just don't think it's the best system considering the time period. I voted for the Dreamcast, which was light-years ahead of the PSX and N64 upon its release. There are still good games available for it, but it's a shame the whole thing has been mothballed. It's not a wonder when it comes to specs, but the DC played some damn impressive games. The NFL series easily rivals Madden for the PS2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sakura Report post Posted February 11, 2002 Backwards compatibility isn't exactly a technological wonder I didn't say it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nevermortal Report post Posted February 11, 2002 PS1. Ugh. I never liked a damned thing on that system. Add into the fact that I had to return the thing 3 times because the thing was defective out of the box. That's strike one. Strike two is their shitty controller. I can't put my finger on it, but I hated that controller with a passion. Eventually I sold it and bought an N64, which I loved. When PS2 rolled around, it wasn't getting my money. Nowadays, I couldn't be happier with my X-Box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Vanilla Midget Report post Posted February 11, 2002 NES, at the time, this thing was amazing. i can still remember playing mario 3, and for its time, it would have to be one of the greatest games of all time. just for when it was released, and its relative longevity, NES = #1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wonderboy Report post Posted February 11, 2002 I'd have to say NES is my FAVORITE of all time. So many great games. I never played any system more than my NES. Mario 3 is just amazing, and I think Mike Tyson's Punchout is one of the top ten greatest games of all time. As for the best, I think PS2. If we're just talking about what a system can do, then I gotta mention that it plays PSone games. A system that plays the PSone library(which I loved, the PS2 library(which I like so far), and DVDs gets my vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hogan Made Wrestling Report post Posted February 11, 2002 SNES is easily the best ever in terms of the one thing that matters: GREAT FUCKING GAMES. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest teke184 Report post Posted February 11, 2002 My NES would be at the top of the list because it had some of the greatest games of all time (Metal Gear 1, Defender of the Crown, Super Dodge Ball, Golgo 13: Top Secret Episode, M.U.L.E., Mario 3, Punch Out, etc.). Oh, BTW, the Genesis was backwards-compatable with the Master System if you bought a Power Base Converter, but no one outside of me and one of my friends really cared because 80% of Master System games sucked and that system had been buried by the NES in the 8-bit system wars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest dreamer420 Report post Posted February 12, 2002 I have to go with SNES. I still have mine and play it to this day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Innovator Report post Posted February 13, 2002 Snes does indeed rule - I bought a Megadrive (Genesis) at the time it came out and thought it was great - bought a Snes this year - *sniff* wondered why I bothered with the sega now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest theWCWRaider Report post Posted February 13, 2002 I voted for the DC, and I agree with all of DRTom's post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KoR Fungus Report post Posted February 13, 2002 Geez five votes for DC? Sure, everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but imo that is crazy. Of course DC was light years ahead of PS1 and N64, it was released *three years* after N64 and *four years* after PS1. It's a 128 bit, next generation system that was designed to compete with PS2, X-Box and GameCube, not with N64 and PS1. Keep in mind that DC only came out a year before PS2, so it's not like it's in some earlier era. Compared with PS2, X-Box or GameCube, it is technologically archaic. It never got a big enough installed base in the US or Japan to lure big third parties to develop for it, and as a result it only really had two years worth of good games. Overall, it's library, imo, is weaker than that of either N64 or PS1, which is pretty bad considering it was released so far after them. It got off to a good start, but it's potential was never really realized. Nevermortal, you never liked *anything* on PS1? Heh, what PS1 games did you play? Given the number of good games on PS1 in every genre, it's hard for me to believe that someone couldn't find anything they liked, shrug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Army Eye Report post Posted February 13, 2002 Dreamcast's library weaker than the N64? LOL.. Thanks, I am doubled over in laughter right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted February 14, 2002 Ehhh, I don't know. The Dreamcast had a lot of /great/ games, but not really a lot of WOW games that some of the other systems on this list have had. If the Dreamcast has any claim to being the best console system, it probably comes down to having the widest (or most eccentric) variety of games (everything from Soul Calibur to Samba de Amigo) and the fact that it was the first console to go online. But put Dreamcast over the Playstation and the SNES in terms of library quality? No way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bruin Report post Posted February 14, 2002 I voted other.. Reason being.. The PC is always ahead of every console out wether anyone wants to admit it or not. Not to mention that it has the most extensive game library and quite frankly, the best games. Not to mention that it can play any game from any previous console (excluding the next gen systems) due to either ports over to the PC or of course, Emulation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Big McLargeHuge Report post Posted February 14, 2002 Do PCs even count in this poll? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest KoR Fungus Report post Posted February 14, 2002 Dreamcast's library weaker than the N64? LOL.. Thanks, I am doubled over in laughter right now Eh Mario 64, Zelda: MM and Zelda:OOT are better than anything on DC imo. Perfect Dark and Goldeneye are better than any FPS games on DC. DC has the edge in RPGs and fighters by default, but N64 wins out in every other meaningful genre in my mind. I hate sports games, so I dunno, maybe DC has such amazing sports games that those put it over the top for some people, but I'd take the N64 library over the DC library any day, especially since if I want to play DC's best game (and the only DC game I really like), I can just go to Playland. As for PCs, the only way I could see them being close to any top console is if you count emulation, which I don't think you should, since PC emulation is always about a generation behind, and games play worse on PC emulators than they do on consoles. The true PC library has been so incredibly focused on FPS, RTS and simulation type games that they've completely ignored everything else. I'm a big fighting game fan, and there's *nothing* on PC for me, not one good fighting game in the 20+ years that PC gaming has been around. Great consoles like SNES and PS1 had a much more balanced library than PCs ever will... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted February 14, 2002 Eh - PCs have the library and backwards compatibility and online play, but they're also about 5-6 times more expensive than your regular console and they're much easier to develop for - any Bill, Jack, or Joe that knows C++ and has access to 3D Studio Max can start a development closet/studio for the PC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Youth N Asia Report post Posted February 14, 2002 Sega Master System...sorry kiddies...but game for game the master system bent the NES over and violated it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BADBATZ Report post Posted February 15, 2002 Game for Game? Eh, there's a lot to take into consideration ya know. I mean, there's a couple of games on the SMS that rank among my favorites, but some of the legend is kinda over-inflated by history. As far as game for game goes, the SMS did come out with games that surpassed NES originals genrewise, but then Nintendo and other companies more often than not upped the ante by surpassing Sega's efforts. A few things to point to on this... The Phantasy Star myth: Sure, PS was better than both FF1 and DW1, but DW3 and 4 as well as Destiny of an Emperor both took it to school as far as domestic RPG's go. And when putting japanese RPG's into consideration? FF3, STED, Just Breed, Sweet Home, Herakles no Eikou 2, Musashi no Bouken, Rainbow Silkroad, and Destiny of an Emperor 2, for starters, were all leaps and bounds over the first PS game. As far as other RPG's go there was nothing else to speak of. Miracle Warriors was a crap factory, Y's was decent enough but done better on both the NES and Turbografx-16, Spellcaster was done much better when it was called Magician, and Ultima 4 looked better than the NES version but, in play mechanics it was closer to the pc version which made things feel kinda labored. Then there was Golvelius, which (along with the decent Golden Axe Warrior) easily beat Zelda 1, but then Compile (the folks that designed Golvelius) beat themselves with The Guardian Legend. Even if you don't count TGL, Golvelius was still wiped out by Crystalis. Double Dragon: Yeah, Sega's port of Double Dragon KILLED the NES version, no doubt about it. But then there's the matter of River City Ransom (which was also by Technos, the creators of DD), which, as far as platform-style fighters go, hasn't been equaled in all around gameplay yet. Platformer franchises: Let's look at these system vs system. First the SMS. Alex Kidd had a good first game (Miracle World), an unplayable in some parts second game (Hi-Tech World), a pastelly platformer which was surpassed by about 10 other games for the NES over here and in japan (Lost Stars), a cutesy Super-Deformed shinobi clone, and a terrible BMX game. Wonderboy's first game WAS Hudson's Adventure Island more or less, the second game (Monster Land) was great even though Battle of Olympus had its' number, the third game (Dragon's Trap) is probably the only SMS game that the NES never truly surpassed (not for lack of trying though), and Monster World (a port of Wonder Boy 5 for Genesis) almost felt like 2 steps back as far as style goes. The Sonic games seem to be Special Olympics versions of the Genesis games they were based upon, and most of the Sonic games from those days seemed like too much of a one-trick pony. As far as the NES goes, there's the Super Mario franchise, which,even though 1 and 2 were decent games, it only REALLY shot the moon on the NES with SMB 3. Konami's Castlevania games started to get good with Simon's Quest, and while part 3 was great, it wasn't the WB3 killer that it tried to be. The Mega Man games, while really great as far as level design, seemed just as samey in gameplay as the Sonic games of the day. The Disney games for the NES (notably the Rescue Rangers and the DuckTales games as well as Darkwing Duck) trashed the SMS Mickey Mouse/Disney games in game mechanics as well as overall fun. In a lot of cases, the Sunsoft, Tengen, and Takara ports of SMS games like Alien Syndrome, Afterburner, Space Harrier, and Altered Beast tended to suffer in the conversion, the Fantasy Zone games and Shinobi excepted. But in the case of original games, the meter tends to still swing towards the NES, with brilliant stuff like Bionic Commando, the Koei strategy games, Blaster Master, Bomberman 2, Bio Miracle Bokutte Upa (Babyland), Cocoron, Galivan, Golgo 13, the Goonies 2, Joy Mecha Fight, Little Samson, Metal Gear, Boku no Yume, the Startropics games, Solstice, and Xexyz. The SMS on the other hand doesn't really have much to stand on, outside of their franchises and arcade ports which turn out a little better, such as Rampage, Renegade, and Gauntlet. And for what it's worth the NES surpassed the SMS in sports and shoot-em-ups seemingly from the start. While the SMS always had more potential and better hardware, the NES has just taken more advantage of their opportunities to really put out damn fine games, even moreso with the japanese games included. EDIT: Shit, that's a lot of rambling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest El Hijo Del Lunatic Report post Posted February 16, 2002 EDIT: Shit, that's a lot of rambling. That's ok. That means I have less rambling about the subject to do. The only other thing that I have to add to BADBATZ' post is that it's only a couple of games that are better than everything else. In terms of RPG's, would I pick Phantasy Star over Dragon Warrior or Final Fantasy? Yup. But would I pick it over all three Final Fantasies, all the Dragon Warriors, the Ultima games, the Wizardry translations, and the KOEI stuff? Hell no. It's the same like that for every genre - the SMS has a few games that more than hold up to the NES' library, but the NES' library can go so far into its bench, so to speak, that the game becomes a no-contest. Also, the NES and Tecmo are still serving time for that utter gangraping of the SMS' sports games. Me? I voted for the SNES, because every major library that made the NES great was pretty much done better on SNES (or done as well, with a nice graphical update). Also, the SNES was the first gaming system to really push into modern 3-D gaming, with games like Star Fox and a nice port of Spectre. The SNES did everything that the NES did, and a little more in some series (Mario, Megaman, Tecmo Bowl, Castlevania) and a lot more in others (Final Fantasy, Zelda, Metroid, Major League Baseball [to the Griffey games], Donkey Kong). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Foe Report post Posted February 16, 2002 I knew there was a reason I liked the Doc... DC has the best launch lineup of any system, ever, as well as the best sports games of any console. The fact that it is the first truly online gaming console is not lost to me, he!!, I'm posting on a DC as we speak. It's the most underrated console of all time, and the most forward-looking. I love the PS2, don't get me wrong, but it's a damn shame so many people missed out on so many good times to be had on Dreamcast. Long live SEGA! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest RhynoesRUs Report post Posted February 16, 2002 SNES is my vote. I'd go into why I think so, except for the fact that it's my first post, and I'm just posting for the sake off it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest goodhelmet Report post Posted February 16, 2002 Most important game system ever has to be the first Playstation. It revolutionized the gaming system. Video games stopped being for the kiddies and became an every age experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blackjack4x Report post Posted February 20, 2002 SNES, easily. I've been playing mine for ten years now. Amazing that the next console for the company could be so bad after creating such a great system in the previous era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest whatitistoburn Report post Posted February 20, 2002 Snes. Why? Two words: Chrono Trigger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest TheNewF'nShow Report post Posted February 20, 2002 How can I be the only one who voted for 64? Have you guys ever played No Mercy or DK 64 or Revenge or Conkers or Mario 64 or any of the Mario Parties or Super Smash Bros.? Come on now... 64 was revolutionary and you know it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites