Why Hardy v. Jarrett is the worst title feud ever

[AmazingRen 0]

1. Jarrett pulls Hardys punk card- since this feud has began Jarrett has always called out Hardy and bashed him with the guitar. Before Hardy can get the best of Jarrett Monty Brown always interfere. The heel is never suppose to get more heat than the face in a title feud. It makes the face look weak and boring (see Hardy)

 

2. The face always costs the heel champion a match- since this feud has begun Jarrett hasn't wrestled a worthy opponent (1 minute jobber Impact matches doesn't count). Costing the heel a match adds more heat to the feud.

 

3. Reason for the feud- Besides Hardy getting a contract saying he's the no.1 contender there hasn't been a reason for this feud to happen. Why does Hardy want the title?

 

4. Promo time- Now I know Hardy can't speak a lick and 5 minutes of listening to Jarrett on the mic will put you to sleep, but running out at the ends of shows and a video package isn't going to cut it. You have to make the people care about the match and feel like it's the biggest match in TNA history (which is what there not doing).

 

5. Not enough minutes for both guys- If TNA thinks Hardy can go 20-25 when he tires out walking down the ramp there crazy. Hardy needed more time in the ring before his match with Jarrett. Jarrett hasn't been in a long match since his match with the Truth.

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

While it's not good it's hardly the worst thing ever seen in wrestling. It's still well below:

 

Diesel/Mabel

HHH/Kane

HHH/Steiner

HHH/Booker T

Hogan/Nash

Hogan/Undertaker

JBL/Undertaker

Luger/Yoko

 

and probably a lot more if I really thought about it.

[Guest MikeSC]

While it's not good it's hardly the worst thing ever seen in wrestling. It's still well below:

 

Diesel/Mabel

HHH/Kane

HHH/Steiner

HHH/Booker T

Hogan/Nash

Hogan/Undertaker

JBL/Undertaker

Luger/Yoko

 

and probably a lot more if I really thought about it.

HHH v Booker T and HHH v Kane will own Hardy v JJ in terms of match quality.

-=Mike

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I disagree because HHH/Kane has Katie Vick and HHH/Booker ended with HHH proving "certain people" aren't good enough.

 

While Jarrett/Hardy is in no way shape or form good it isn't so mind numbing bad like a lot of the feuds I mentioned.

[Guest MikeSC]

I disagree because HHH/Kane has Katie Vick and HHH/Booker ended with HHH proving "certain people" aren't good enough.

 

While Jarrett/Hardy is in no way shape or form good it isn't so mind numbing bad like a lot of the feuds I mentioned.

I'm discussing match quality. And Hardy v JJ will be damned fortunate to hit 2 stars.

-=Mike

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

Ah, gotcha. I was discussing overall. It's still a gross overstatement to say that this will be worst World Title feud ever.

 

There was still ECW and the AWA to consider as well.

[Guest Staravenger]

Diesel/Mabel takes the cake, but at least it had SOME heat with the Davey Boy Smith turn, and where Lex Lugers loyalty was (which ended up meaning jack shit)

[Magus 0]

Hardy vs. Jarrett ranks among some of the worst stuff WWE or WCW ever did, honestly. There are worse fueds, of course, but this one's pretty bad as well.

 

I think it'd be safe to say this is the worst fued ever in TNA though. It has no heat, no logic, no character, and the match is going to suck donkey balls.

[Guest MikeSC]

Hardy vs. Jarrett ranks among some of the worst stuff WWE or WCW ever did, honestly. There are worse fueds, of course, but this one's pretty bad as well.

 

I think it'd be safe to say this is the worst fued ever in TNA though. It has no heat, no logic, no character, and the match is going to suck donkey balls.

I think it might be worse than most because it's fairly obvious that TNA is actually trying to build it up (unlike most of their big matches) and they actually EXPECT this to make them some money and give them crossover appeal.

 

I don't think the WWF, honestly, expected their mentioned matches to do the same.

-=Mike

[Guest Salacious Crumb]

I don't know. Steiner/HHH went on longer than it had any right to. Kane/HHH had gone on too long as soon as HHH fucked a corpse on tv.

[Guest Sturgis]

I think the problem may be that everybody knows that Jeff Jarrett will win.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

I think the problem may be that everybody knows that Jeff Jarrett will win.

Actually, I think the problem is that there is only a choice of Hardy or Jarrett walking out of the match with the title......and nobody wants EITHER to be the champion.

[Guest Sturgis]

True. It is blatantly obvious to me that Jeff Jarrett will win with either Monty Brown interference, guitar shot, or both.

 

That's the whole problem to this fued. Two guys are fighting over something they don't deserve, and nobody wants to see. Add to it that the outcome is obvious.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

True. However it is blatantly obvious that Jeff Jarrett will win with either Monty Brown interference, guitar shot, or both.

Honestly though, at this point.....does it even matter?

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

I disagree because HHH/Kane has Katie Vick and HHH/Booker ended with HHH proving "certain people" aren't good enough.

 

While Jarrett/Hardy is in no way shape or form good it isn't so mind numbing bad like a lot of the feuds I mentioned.

HHH/Booker was STILL a ***+ match... is JJ even capable of that?

[Zack Malibu 0]

I still think Hardy will win this time around, only for JJ to win it back at the first Sunday PPV. That, or Brown will cost Hardy, expect a title shot for it, JJ refuses, and Brown goes face. Then Brown eventually beats JJ since Dutch has a hard-on for the guy, and Hardy goes into a feud with Raven.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

Its that double edge sword again, you don't want Jeff Hardy to be world champion, but you don't want JJ to be the champ anymore.

[Guest MikeSC]

I still think Hardy will win this time around, only for JJ to win it back at the first Sunday PPV. That, or Brown will cost Hardy, expect a title shot for it, JJ refuses, and Brown goes face. Then Brown eventually beats JJ since Dutch has a hard-on for the guy, and Hardy goes into a feud with Raven.

Would you want the "Charismatic Enigma" to be World Champ? Was Desire too busy to be inserted into this slot?

-=Mike

[Zack Malibu 0]

At this point I'll gladly take Hardy over Jarrett.

 

Then again, at this point, I'd take Pat Kenney over Jarrett.

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

I really think Jarrett should win this feud though. Make the title change mean something when it does happen.

[Guest Dynamite Kido]

Really what they should do is make it so there is no decisive winner of hardy/jarrett(now calm down, I'm looking toward the future here, I don't wanna see more screwjobs) and then hold the title up. Then, keep the title vacant until "Victory Road" where they can do a NWA Title Tournament. This way they can re-establish their entire main event picture. They could throw in guys that should be main eventers as well(ex:Christopher Daniels) and get other guys back to where they should be in the ME picture(Raven and AJ especially). Well, I know it's just wishful thinking.......but sometimes when it comes to TNA they honestly need to pick up a "what the fuck" attitude and start trying new things and see if they work.

[Guest MikeSC]

I really think Jarrett should win this feud though. Make the title change mean something when it does happen.

When has a JJ title job "meant something"?

 

This implies he has a rub to give --- something he clearly and painfully lacks.

-=Mike

[Guest TheZsaszHorsemen]

I really think Jarrett should win this feud though. Make the title change mean something when it does happen.

When has a JJ title job "meant something"?

 

This implies he has a rub to give --- something he clearly and painfully lacks.

-=Mike

Mean something = Not job the title to a guy who is already a joke.

 

Jeff Hardy doesn't mean anything. JJ losing to Raven, no matter how much interference is involved would mean something.

[Guest MikeSC]

I really think Jarrett should win this feud though. Make the title change mean something when it does happen.

When has a JJ title job "meant something"?

 

This implies he has a rub to give --- something he clearly and painfully lacks.

-=Mike

Mean something = Not job the title to a guy who is already a joke.

 

Jeff Hardy doesn't mean anything. JJ losing to Raven, no matter how much interference is involved would mean something.

Not anymore. It might have a year or so again.

-=Mike

[CubbyBr 0]

It would still mean something if built up right.

[Zack Malibu 0]

Honestly, if they want a worthy title feud, I say they run with a long-term Raven/Styles program. You could sort of plant the seeds to it in Kid Kash's "TNA favors AJ" gimmick by having Raven talk about how everytime he's about to fulfill his destiny, something gets in his way. He could then talk about how AJ has had the "easy road to the top" and TNA loves him since he's the poster boy type. Raven, meanwhile, never conformed and therefore he's had to play the cards he was dealt. Have Raven eventually beat Hardy (basing this off my belief that he'll win it) and then have Styles challenge Raven, who will claim that he's "broken the mold" as champion. Both guys are over, and Raven's one of the more creative guys in wrestling, so I think it could go well if done.

[Twisted Intestine 0]

The reason Jarrett's losses mean nothing, is because you know even if he does lose, he's winning it back within the next month

[Guest Paul H.]

The fact that it's Jeff Hardy should tell you something. Styles,Hardy,wtf is this..Lifetime?

[Guest whitemilesdavis]

1. Jarrett pulls Hardys punk card- since this feud has began Jarrett has always called out Hardy and bashed him with the guitar. Before Hardy can get the best of Jarrett Monty Brown always interfere. The heel is never suppose to get more heat than the face in a title feud. It makes the face look weak and boring (see Hardy)

 

2. The face always costs the heel champion a match- since this feud has begun Jarrett hasn't wrestled a worthy opponent (1 minute jobber Impact matches doesn't count). Costing the heel a match adds more heat to the feud.

 

3. Reason for the feud- Besides Hardy getting a contract saying he's the no.1 contender there hasn't been a reason for this feud to happen. Why does Hardy want the title?

 

4. Promo time- Now I know Hardy can't speak a lick and 5 minutes of listening to Jarrett on the mic will put you to sleep, but running out at the ends of shows and a video package isn't going to cut it. You have to make the people care about the match and feel like it's the biggest match in TNA history (which is what there not doing).

 

5. Not enough minutes for both guys- If TNA thinks Hardy can go 20-25 when he tires out walking down the ramp there crazy. Hardy needed more time in the ring before his match with Jarrett. Jarrett hasn't been in a long match since his match with the Truth.

 

You forgot the most important one:

 

6. Feud involves Jeff Jarrett and Jeff Hardy.

[UseTheSledgehammerUh 0]

"HHH/Booker was STILL a ***+ match... is JJ even capable of that?"

 

Try again with that rating.