This Week in College Football 9/23 - 9/25

[Damaramu 0]

And you're not seriously trying to convince of Houston's anything-better-than-mediocreness are you?

Not every non-conference opponent needs to be a world beater.

Houston was decent enough to not be a total patsy which is why they were added to the schedule.

But then again a lot of teams aside from the other elite teams wouldn't be much to add to the schedule. And those teams don't want any part of us as much as we don't want any part of them.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Tennessee has had Notre Dame and friggin' MIAMI as non-conference games the last several years, with the second Notre Dame encounter this year (which should prove way more interesting since they blew in 2001). It would seem that these teams that people "don't want any of" were welcomed to Rocky Top.

 

Miami themselves scheduled tough non-conference games every year (Florida State [who themselves scheduled Notre Dame, promptly losing to them even], Florida, Tennessee) before they joined the ACC.

 

I give props to Oklahoma for scheduling Alabama for those couple of years, but that's about it.

[iggymcfly 0]

Actually, the thing about Oklahoma refusing to play anyone good on the road is still valid.

 

Yes, they wanted to play USC, but they agreed to it only on the condition that they come to Norman. USC said they'd do the game at their place, but refused to travel when they already had three difficult non-conference road games scheduled.

[therealworldschampion 0]

Miami themselves scheduled tough non-conference games every year (Florida State [who themselves scheduled Notre Dame, promptly losing to them even], Florida, Tennessee) before they joined the ACC

 

I have to give Miami credit, they don't run from anyone. They even talked with Ohio State and scheduled a home-and-home with them in a few years, first game in Columbus, second in the Orange Bowl.

 

Edit: While we're talking about that, I would love to see Miami and Notre Dame start playing again. I don't think Miami would have a problem with it, hell they went to Penn State and played them, but I have a feeling that Notre Dame wants to start padding their schedule for wins.

[Guest GreatOne]

That was actually being discussed a few months back. ND wouldn't necessarily stop playing Michigan or Mich St (although they sometimes have those gaps: 95/96 they played Ohio St, 00/01 Nebraska) and the rivalry games with Purdue, SC, and BC would probably still stay, but the random home-and-homes with Pitt, BYU, Florida St, Texas A&M, and Tennessee are probably gone and more Utah st, Louisiana-Lafayette, Army, Navy (although they're 4-0 but they haven't really played anybody) would stay. Then again ND being 3-1 might be changing some future plans.

 

SC went back to Oklahoma in 92 and won (though OU wasn't any great shakes then) and are also last non-Big 10 team to win at the Horseshoe. Let's exclude them from the K-State treatment.

[Damaramu 0]

Did I say Florida Atlantic? Just read up on it. It was Florida A&M. OU realized that'd be total crap and got rid of them.

And not every team does schedule hardcore opponents unless you're Notre Dame. Notre Dame could actually be a Top 10 team if they didn't play such a tough schedule. I think they play the toughest schedule in College Football.

Oh and btw OU scheduled the game with Oregon this year b/c they thought Oregon was going to be a better team and they were in the Top 25. Nobody knew they'd fall apart. OU certainly didn't know that when they scheduled them.

 

Also I'll admit they could schedule better teams. But you guys act like they scheduled nothing but total pansies that they could bitch slap the whole time. Which isn't the case. And now you're acting like they're going to run through an easy year. And if they go 13-0 and win the national title I can hear the bitching of "They don't deserve it! They played a weak schedule!" crying down from the hilltops now. Appparently they'll have to run through the entire Top 10 winning on average by 80 points to ever deserve it.

 

Oh and exactly what I said should happen happened. Here's the thing I read in the paper today:

 

"Southern California's hold on No. 1 loosened after the Trojans struggled against Stanford.

USC recieved 46 first place votes in the AP poll released Sunday, eight fewer than last week.

The team that benefited most from SC's come-from-behind 31-28 victory on Saturday was idle Oklahoma.

The second-ranked Sooners got 18 first place votes and narrowed the gap between them and the Trojans to 35 points(1605-1570)."

 

What I said should happen....happened. SC lost 1st place votes.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Any team from a conference that has a conference title game is guaranteed at least two hard games a year, that title game and the ensuing bowl should they win the conference. Oklahoma has those two, plus Texas and (some years) Oklahoma State. I'd say 3-5 (five being the number if another Big XII team happens to be good that year) rough games a year is standard.

[Damaramu 0]

Exactly. And just because they blow these teams like Texas and such out doesn't mean that it was a weak schedule. It could just mean that they're *GASP* a lot better than those teams!

I mean yeah they beat OSU like 52-9 in Norman last year. But OSU was a good team. They went to the Cotton Bowl where they only lost by a Field Goal.

Texas......Texas chokes in big games but there was no way they choked against OU last year. 65-13?

[lomasmoney 0]

They won the Orange Bowl in 2000 against Florida State. And they pretty much KO'd them in that game as FSU's offense couldn't do shit to OU.

They won the Rose Bowl against WSU in 2002 dominating the game.

 

Oh and by the way they didn't crash and burn against LSU. LSU was better. They just got beat by a better team.

 

And on top of all that Jason White did deserve the Heisman. He put up some of the best numbers last season with an 8 to 1 TD/INT ratio and was INJURED during the last two games. His hand was broken and so was his foot. He had to have surgery on both after the season ended. Plus his knees were still bad. He would've had good games if he hadn't been injured. He proved all season he was good. And don't give me that "Well real warriors fight back" b/c he tried to fight back and he tried his damndest in those last two games but just couldn't do it physically. Mentally he was all there. But when you have a broken hand, foot, and two bad knees you tend not to be able to get things done no matter how hard you try.

 

Oh and btw they asked USC to play them this year and USC turned them down. So there goes that "Never trying to play an OOC powerhouse" argument. And OU's AD is working with LSU's AD to set up an OU/LSU series sometime down the line. So there's that to.

Both of those games were on a neutral field, meaning no one really had a home field advantage like a team would playing at their home stadium. I didnt say anything about Jason White not being worthy of the Heisman, he had a great season last yr and I have no problems with him winning the title. But I was just saying I dont see Oklahoma playing top notch OOC teams on the road each year which is something a program like Michigan does every year almost to a fault.

 

Of course LSU was a better team last year, they played a tougher schedule in a tougher conference, and OU was exposed by KSU as not being the " OMG, best team ever" that people were saying they were going into that game. Hell, they werent even the best team of the last 10 years

[Damaramu 0]

Well I won't argue they aren't the best team ever or of the last 10 years b/c they didn't go undefeated. Had they gone undefeated there would've been an argument seems how up until the Big XII title game they had 95 Nebraska(who seems to be considered the best team ever) beaten in all but 1 category.

[therealworldschampion 0]

SC went back to Oklahoma in 92 and won (though OU wasn't any great shakes then) and are also last non-Big 10 team to win at the Horseshoe. Let's exclude them from the K-State treatment.

 

SC shouldn't catch any shit for their schedule. I saw what their future OOCs look like and they're playing home-and-homes with Arkansas starting next year, Nebraska, and Ohio State in a few years. Nevermind the fact that they go to South Bend every other year too.