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Totally do not cut Nasa

[goofy conspiracist]We shouldn't cut the X-Files program in the FBI, right?[/goofy conspiracist]

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Totally do not cut Nasa

[goofy conspiracist]We shouldn't cut the X-Files program in the FBI, right?[/goofy conspiracist]

-=Mike

 

The Truth is out there....

AND IT CAN ALL BE YOURS IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT!

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You can fund it more when the economies robust. It is valuable, it gives us shitloads of inventions (freeze dried ice cream!) and gets our sattelites out there. However, I'm sure some things can go. Especially this mission to Mars bullshit.

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I am not a fan of NASA right now. It seems these guys can't take a leak without messing something up. Their recent track record has been pisspoor and I'm sick and tired about hearing about the latest multi-million dollar piece of equipment they lost.

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Iraq War: Against

 

Big Gov't/Small Gov't: In-between. So the Government isn't a lardass, but a fit body.

 

War on drugs: It's failed. Leave these issues to the states. Keep some fed help around for cross-state work or border smuggling.

 

Abortion: I wish it didn't happen. But I won't unreasonably restrict it either. And PBA should be banned unless in cases of the mother's health.

 

Gay marriage: No real opinion. Honestly, I don't know where we got to the point where the Government has put up so much influence on marriage (with tax breaks and other benefits). I voted against the marriage definition in Missouri.

 

Social programs: Make sure the money is being spent well. Cut waste.

 

Taxes: The taxes on the higher incomes could be raised a bit. I'd prefer something which increases revenue, so we don't run such a big deficit

 

Pledge: Irrelevant Wedge Issue. The House is fucking stupid for passing the unconstitutional Pledge Protection act. Missouri is stupid for passing a law which requires schools to do the pledge once a week.

 

Guns: Handguns = fine for defense. Hunting weapons = fine. Semi-Automatic and Military Rifles = bad.

 

Affirmative action: Somebody should evaluate the changes in America since the implementation of AA and then maybe a reorganization of the policy is in order. Racism is dying out in America.

 

The courts: there should be some sort of reform

 

Death penalty: It should exist for the worst criminals. It is overapplied right now. But we shouldn't tie our hands by just banning it.

 

Teaching practical sex-ed: The messege is fine, some of the people hearing it may not apply it

 

Across borders racial profiling: We should have "Suspicious person profiling". If you look suspicious, you may be searched. I'd prefer not being so racial about it.

 

Medical Care - Some sort of change would be fine.

 

Bush - Fiscally irresponsible. Has had "bad luck" for 4 years (makes you wonder why he needs 4 more).

 

Kerry - He's my SOB, that's for sure

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Kahran, how do you feel about it for medicinal purposes?

Not great, but I would be willing to compromise on my drugs issue. You can do whatever the hell you want in your own home. My problem is people going out in public intoxicated. If you could find a way to regulate that instead, I would have no complaints.

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Two reasons.

 

1) Alcohol in moderation is nothing. It is only when you drink too much that problems occur. It isn't as strong as most drugs.

 

2) It can't be done. Too much backlash. People won't defend cigs the way they would beer.

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Oh I think smokers would defend cigarettes pretty strongly.

 

You don't know because you're not a smoker.

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Also, what's everyone's problem with automatic weapons? Is it any different than getting killed with a semiautomatic? Besides, registered gun owners generally don't go spraying bullets into a crowd, and if one does, it isn't going to matter much if it's an AR 15 or a 9mm.

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Oh I think smokers would defend cigarettes pretty strongly.

 

You don't know because you're not a smoker.

There are indoor smoking bans in Ontario and Florida (the two places I live) and it is not being fought that greatly.

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Also, what's everyone's problem with automatic weapons? Is it any different than getting killed with a semiautomatic? Besides, registered gun owners generally don't go spraying bullets into a crowd, and if one does, it isn't going to matter much if it's an AR 15 or a 9mm.

Especially since the AR 15 is a semiautomatic rifle.

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The only thing that differentiates booze from weed or tobacco, is that it's more ingrained in the culture. That's the reason that prohibition was the most collosal failure in history. People will NOT do without their fucking alcohol. No tobacco or marijuana people might accept, but if you take away their alcohol, you're going to have fucking mutiny on your hands.

 

By the way, the only response that really stood out to me was Mad Dog's. He was right about almost everything, and then he goes and utters this stupid shit about the pledge:

 

Pledge- If you can't handle the word God then I suggest you lock yourself in a box and throw away the key.

 

The point is that the real pledge has nothing to do with anyone's stupid mythology, and to see this bullshit added to something which is supposed to pledge your allegiance to the United States of America is retarded.

 

True, it's one of the least important issues you could find to debate in the whole race, but you still couldn't be more wrong. Just saying you should lock yourself in a box because you don't want to see dumb religious propaganda added to the pledge of allegiance to out nation makes you sound as unintelligent as just about anything you could find to bring up.

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Guest Salacious Crumb

I suggest you go lock yourself in a box then. You totally missed the point of what I was saying. People that feel the need to sue over something as trivial as a phrase in a pledge are obviously too sensitive to operate in a normal society. If you get so worked up over God, I'd hate to see how these people react to everything else in society.

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Also, what's everyone's problem with automatic weapons? Is it any different than getting killed with a semiautomatic? Besides, registered gun owners generally don't go spraying bullets into a crowd, and if one does, it isn't going to matter much if it's an AR 15 or a 9mm.

Especially since the AR 15 is a semiautomatic rifle.

Do you know how many owners of those modify them fully auto? I'd say most. All that I know.

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Guest Agent of Oblivion
Oh I think smokers would defend cigarettes pretty strongly.

 

You don't know because you're not a smoker.

There are indoor smoking bans in Ontario and Florida (the two places I live) and it is not being fought that greatly.

That's still much different than an outright ban. People can still go outside to smoke, or smoke in their cars and homes in that scenario, which while still being bullshit, is at least feasible.

 

Furthermore:

 

It isn't as strong as most drugs

 

Also sort of incorrect. Alcohol has a lethal dosage that a person can theoretically reach. Not so with marijuana. That makes it "stronger", I'd say. Pot doesn't really impair motor function too much, either.

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Iraq War: Hindsight is 20/20, but troops have to stay until the job is done.

 

Big Gov't/Small Gov't: Small

 

War on drugs: Legalize pot. What you are doing with your body is of little interest to me.

 

Abortion: Unfortunate, but should be legal.

 

Gay marriage: What's the harm?

 

Social programs: Typically ineffective, but can sometimes be helpful.

 

Taxes: Keep as low as possible while having sufficient funds to meet the necessary obligations of government.

 

Pledge: Keep it as it is, but not my country.

 

Guns- Ban Automatic and Semi-Automatic weapons.

 

Affirmative Action: Not a solution.

 

The Courts: Lawyers who persistently bring up frivolous claims should be disbarred.

 

Death penalty: Against. What is worse, a calm death, or the rest of your life in a tiny cell?

 

Teaching practical sex-ed: Up to the individual school.

 

Across borders racial profiling: A number of factors should be taken into account when deciding to search someone, and unfortunately, one of these is race.

 

Medical Care: The state should subsidise it, but when you make something free it becomes exploited.

 

Bush: Leadership.

 

Kerry: Not a suitable alternative.

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Iraq War: Waited for the "proof" of the WMD. Never got them. Got friends there, so hope it can be stabilized as quickly as possible, but know it's going to take a long time and will be a drain on the economy for years to come.

 

Big Gov't/Small Gov't/Social programs: Depends. Make it harder for able-bodied, perfectly healthy folks to freeload, and harder for them to simply take a job, slack off, and get fired. Social programs are good if they go to the right folks, but I'm convinced that isn't the case a lot of the time.

 

War on drugs: if pot is legalized, since it is a hallucinogen, big fines should be administered for *public* use, especially operating a vehicle. Drunk driving laws should be very tough. The hard stuff should remain illegal.

 

Abortion: Personally opposed, but for those who want it--first trimester only.

 

Gay marriage: Personally opposed, but civil unions are fine. However, no superior rights should be granted.

 

Taxes- Tax cuts are good, consumption tax would be best

 

Pledge- Keep it in, just to piss off the asshole hippies.

 

Guns- Don't know enough about the issue; would need more info, but there's no need for civilians to own heavy artillery.

 

Affirmative action: against

 

The courts: hooboy--where to begin?

 

Death penalty: against; make them serve hard labor so that they can pay back to society some way, rather than getting HBO, gyms to work out with and sports to play, and man ass to sate their carnal desires.

 

Teaching practical sex-ed: Yes--but personally some folks are so damn stupid they should be neutered to be safe.

 

Across borders racial profiling- Undecided.

 

Medical Care= Universal health care is a mess, and privatized health care is a mess. I see no reason to go too far in either direction.

 

Bush= I lean towards the Republican side, otherwise I wouldn't really support him at all. He wouldn't have been my first or second choice in 2000, but I disliked Gore even more.

 

Kerry= Personally turns me off, but I don't think he'd be too bad as President. I want him to tell me what the hell he stands for, though. I hate his "global" views, though.

 

As for government programs--I'm not knowledgable enough to decide what needs cut. However, NASA has provided plenty of important and practical contributions, so they're fine by me. Should be watched, though.

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