Guest papacita Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Is there a move or spot that you HATE? The only one I can think of out of the top of my head is the Impaler/Edgecution. I kinda liked it when Gangrel was doing it, but now Edge has made me hate the move. Him hitting it on Rhyno in last years KOTR seemed too damn unrealistic. And the Litarana. That just pisses me off. Anyway...what are yours? I NEED ANSWERS!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Ref bump spots and double-pin german suplex sposts always piss me off. Always. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I hated Chyna's shitty move. the name escapes me at the moment, the tumbling elbow in the corner. it was horrible. the big boot and leg drop. Do i need to explain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest easye46 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Top rope walk of doom - undertaker The worm, People's Elbow, Bronco Buster.. just generally stupid moves.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Will Scarlet Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I always hate when Angle locks on the Anklelock against anything remotely resembling a main eventer, especially when he has on it for like 3 or 4 minutes with him cranking on the ankle. Eventually, the main eventer just casually rolls forward, then the match goes on like it was nothing. I have nothing against the move, but how am I supposed to believe a move is at all effective if I see someone who has the move on for a long time, and his opponent is STILL not tapping out? It just totally destroys the move, and makes the whole thing look silly in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest cobainwasmurdered Report post Posted May 2, 2002 rock's belly to belly rock's sharpshooter rock's dragonscrew legwhip they're horrible. we all know that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Man in Blak Report post Posted May 2, 2002 You know, the whole Ankle lock in general bugs me. Ever since I saw Shane McMahon counter it in the most logical (and non-chalant way), it really looks stupid for guys like the Rock to flop around like a dying fish. Of course, that may be more on the shoulders of Shane than anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Him hitting it on Rhyno in last years KOTR seemed too damn unrealistic Rhyno was the only person that took it right for Edge (at 45 degrees) I loved it. As far as the Ankle lock goes.. complain that nearly no one at all in the WWF can sell for more than 10 seconds tops (sweeping statement which can easily be proved wrong, but should only be taken to expan the point) For it's application.. Angle should start doing an Step over Ankle lock: How it works... Apply Ankle lock, when opp. rolls over onto front to espcae the hold, step your far leg over the leg you have the hold on, use that to roll them over onto their back again (if they rolled right, roll them right again, and vise versa) And then your far leg will be over the leg you have the hold on, sit down onto the leg... and the opps. going nowhere but to tap out land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest NoCalMike Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I kind of get annoyed watching the Swanton Bomb. Most people tend to like it and think it is just "awesome" but I could never understand what was so cool about it considering how little contact is made when the move actually hits. Shane McMahon stealing moves from wrestlers and stealing heat from the wrestlers is rather annoying as well, although this hasn't occurred in awhile, thank god. The people's elbow gets annoying because for one, the setup is just to long for someone to remain laying there and two, it is not in the least a credible finisher. I am sure there some others I could mention but I will save them for later I guess.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I kind of get annoyed watching the Swanton Bomb. Most people tend to like it and think it is just "awesome" but I could never understand what was so cool about it considering how little contact is made when the move actually hits. That's cuz Jeff can't do a somersault senton to save his life. His version if horribel to say the least. Sean O'Haire's (sp?) was far better. I don't think anyone with wide wrestling taste likes the Swanton, they might like Somersault Sentons, but not the Swanton. They're is only one way to "steal" a move in wrestling.. and that's to use someone elses move that they invented and them go on the record in an interview or such and say you made that move up, and you've never seen or heard of the moves creater before (Ala Nova with the Spin Doctor/Last Rites even though he used to tag with Daniels) Other wise it's just copying really... but still, maybe he could have broken someing else out at WM against Vince. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 2, 2002 The Ankle lock as done by Angle is a retarded finisher. Angle going to his feet and twisting the guy's foot makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. From a vertical base it's an incredibly easy move to counter/reverse. Hell, just kick the guy in the fucking face with the free leg! At least when Shamrock did it, he would stay in a low position (sometimes over his opponents back) so that his opponent's leverage was minimized. Angle's application of it is god awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 2, 2002 1.) The Worm- No explination needed 2.) Chyna's hanspring elbow: It just looked so shitty. 3.) The Scorpion King Deathlock: The Rock just totally blasphemes the move. 4.) The Stink Face: Ewww.....plus, it should be reserved for AFTER matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Raven_Effect01 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 The Worm Chyna's handspring backflip elbow Scorpion King Deathlock Stinkface Bronco Buster Ref bumps RVD's shoulder ram into a backflip Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Nater Report post Posted May 2, 2002 1. The Worm 2. The Stinkface 3. People's Elbow 4. Boot -> Leg Drop 5. Punches off the top rope. Flying headbutts, elbows, legdrops, crosschops, slams and anything else that is an impact move are all OKAY ..but not a fucking punch. Honestly we see 1000's of them in a month, why is a flying one gonna be that much special? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mystery Eskimo Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I'm kinda sick of the spear being used, especially as a finisher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest converge241 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 The worm and people's elbow.. just doubly awful because they dont ahve any impact, plus people have to sell extra long to set up the moves. At least the worm hasnt won a match for Scotty (as far as I can remember), but Rock gets pinfall wins with it all the time. WHy is that? I mean, he has the Rock Bottom which looks somewhat devastating in the context of wrestling.. The "i really want to hurt this guy, so im going to powerbomb him through the table...............but not before i take out the tv monitors so i dont really hurt him." Why dont they just have the monitors on their own little stands next to the announce table? multiple ref bumps. I can live with one, once in a while. The most hated spot of all? That one on Dusty rhode's stomach!! what is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Mighty Damaramu Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I kind of get annoyed watching the Swanton Bomb. Most people tend to like it and think it is just "awesome" but I could never understand what was so cool about it considering how little contact is made when the move actually hits. It's cooler when the opponent is standing and The Great Sasuke does it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest JHawk Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Got to get my two cents in on the most pathetic move in sports entertainment today, the People's Elbow. OK, it looks cool as hell. But could somebody explain to me how it hurts any more than a regular elbowdrop? He doesn't even jump in the air, he just falls on the guy. I could believe the freaking abdominal stretch as a finisher before the People's Elbow, and that's sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Anglesault Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I HATE the Cruiser "Flop around the ring and end in a god damned motherfucking arm drag" spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Slingshot Suplex Report post Posted May 2, 2002 The Bronco Buster sucks ass through a straw as does the X Factor (oddly enough X Pac doesn't bother me other than those two moves.That and he seems to beat everybody) The running spalsh/avalanche into the corner...mostly because it seems to be a staple move of the Missouri indy fed I've seen.....probably a dozen per show.zzzzzz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest razazteca Report post Posted May 2, 2002 worst move by a luchadore: running off the ropes then hitting the body scissors on the opponet which is usually turned into a face buster, or the oppponet lifts the attacker up then gets arm dragged. Very few wrestlers pull the move off the way it is supposed to be....Victory Roll!!! Kidman's powerbomb reversal XPac/Rey Misterio Jr bronco buster big guys doing Cruiserweight moves, Awesome frog splash, O'Haire Swanton bomb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I fucking hate double ko's when both guys come off the ropes and hit each other, they don't even try to make it look real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Moves: People's Elbow, WORM, ANY of Goldust's so-called "finishing moves." Spots: The only spot that really makes me say "What the Fuck?!" out loud is, for example, say Kurt Angle was wrestling Triple H in a No DQ match. Kurt Angle locks in a submission hold, yet Triple H makes it to the ropes. This is a NO DQ match here, yet the ref would STILL make Angle break the hold. THAT pisses me off. This has happened in Cage matches too! I understand the thinking that "well, if they didn't force them to break - then said wrestler could be locked in the submission hold forever!" But even still, they could do a reversal spot, or a spot where the receiving wrestler just won't give up and the other wrestler eventually releases the hold of his own accord. *argh* That spot bothers me. It also bothers me that the "ring out" count only matters when they want to use it. Fucking idiots. Why not just get rid of it alltogether, like Tag Ropes. ;p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vyce Report post Posted May 2, 2002 I hate pretty much all offense from Bradshaw, Big Show, Lita & The Hardy Boyz. Chyna's handspring elbow was so bad because she couldn't do it properly. Even after all of the handsprings, she would basically just back up into her opponent, thus totally negating the purpose of the move. To see how it's supposed to be done, check out Muta back during the late 80s / early 90s. Spots: The only spot that really makes me say "What the Fuck?!" out loud is, for example, say Kurt Angle was wrestling Triple H in a No DQ match. Kurt Angle locks in a submission hold, yet Triple H makes it to the ropes. This is a NO DQ match here, yet the ref would STILL make Angle break the hold. THAT pisses me off. I specifically remember this happening during Rock / Austin at WM X-7. Before the match occurred, it was changed to a no-DQ contest, and I guess no one told Earl Hebner, because several times he would call for a break to a submission (or an illegal move like a choke) when the man reached the ropes. FINALLY, towards the later part of the match, Austin heeled it up and refused to break the submissions, but it was frustrating there for a while. But now that you've brought this up - how about the ref calling for a break in general? Unless they changed the rules, I thought that they had a 5 count. Yet you NEVER see someone go the full 5....I remember back in the day in the WWF, the heels would choke the faces in the corner, and get 2 or 3 five counts with nothing but a warning from the ref. Nowadays, it seems as if they go to a five-count, it's an automatic DQ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Nowadays, it seems as if they go to a five-count, it's an automatic DQ. That's what it's meant to be. I've seen it happen once in recent years.. Tajiri vs. Rhyno in heat for US Title I think. Tajiri got Rhyno in the Tarantutla, didn't let got at five, and got DQed, so protecting both guys. Think it was a gruge match for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 2, 2002 RVD's shoulder-rammy backflippy thing. WTF is that backflip for? To give that last devestating shoulder ram a little extra oomph? I'd also say the People's Elbow, but that only really bothered me when Rock used it as a finisher, which he hasn't done for a long time. Thankfully. And though I love Tajiri, the Tarantula--as well as any signature spot that can get you DQ'ed--is pretty stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted May 2, 2002 People forget that the People's Elbow was also invented as a parody move for the heel Rock character that was supposed to get laughed at and booed by the crowd, but it caught on and the crowd likes it so it's still done for crowd pops. And other than WM-X8 vs. Hogan, the last time I remember the Rock winning a significant match with it is Summerslam 2000. Another bad finisher is Angle's Angle Slam. It's basically a Samoan drop where Angle rotates a bit while he's doing it. Angle's regular German suplex looks like it hurts more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Special K Report post Posted May 2, 2002 The usuals are the boot->leg drop, people's elbow, worm, Rockshooter, Rock belly2belly. Other things: RVD used to do these spots in ECW when he'd backflip to pick up a chair. I love RVD, but it looked ridiculously overdone, and he often fucked it up. Jericho's bulldoggy thing is way too loose. any discus punch/clotehsline type spot (DDP did it worst). Also, even though it looks cool, I've never really understood why the flatliner/downward spiral would be finish-worthy. I also hate the lucha arm drag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dace59 Report post Posted May 2, 2002 Angle's Angle Slam. It's basically a Samoan drop where Angle rotates a bit while he's doing It's a spinning torture rack drop. Jericho's bulldoggy thing is way too loose. That's becuase it's not a bulldog, it's a face crusher.. two DIFFERENT moves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Tha Cunnysmythe Report post Posted May 2, 2002 That retarded cruiserweight move where they put their leg over their opponents neck, and use it as leverage to do a backflip. Why? It's not a move, it achieves nothing except the occasional clothesline to the eye. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites