Moves/spots that you hate

[Guest Dace59]

That retarded cruiserweight move where they put their leg over their opponents neck, and use it as leverage to do a backflip. Why?

 

It's not the full spot, if you've ever seen one fullone you'd like it.

They do the set up, and the back flip, but on his way down, then dude doing the backflip catches the opp and does a rana. VERY RARELY ever seen in US wrestling.

[Guest Some Guy]

I hate the jump off the second rope right on to a guys extended foot spot.  WTF are they planning on doing anyway?

 

Cunny you're parlyzed, what are you doing here?

[Guest alfdogg]

The Litacanrana and Rock's sharpshooter are the only moves I have beef with.  And the legdrop as a finisher.  The ankle lock would be better if he would get down on the mat instead of standing.

[Guest]

The Litacanrana and Rock's sharpshooter are the only moves I have beef with.  And the legdrop as a finisher.  The ankle lock would be better if he would get down on the mat instead of standing.

The Rock looks like he's having a hard time taking a shit while doing the Sharpshooter.  He looks like he is supposed to be the one selling the move.  I've done better sharpshooters while messing with my cousins.  Let's just hope and pray he doesen't attempt another submission hold.

[Guest dreamer420]

The rock's sharpshooter is too shitty looking.  when bret or owen did it they would tightly lock the legs and sit right on the their opponents backs.  now the just rock squats there holding the other guys legs.

[Guest Some Guy]

Edge's spear really bothers me, he's just too skinny for it to look effective.

 

I dislike chinlocks as well.  At least do an armbar or a figure 4 or something.

 

I hate when 2 big guys both kick each other in the face at the same time, the only time I liked it was at WM 12 when Taker and Nash pulled it off well and it was the first time I'd ever seen it, now it sucks because Big Slow, Kane, Taker, Nash, Test, etc.. all totally suck at the spot.

[Guest Dace59]

Edge's spear really bothers me, he's just too skinny for it to look effective.

 

He also drops to one side on his knees making it look total shit.

[Guest bravesfan]

One peeve:

Those off-the-rope wrestlers avoiding harm (punches, clotheslines,etc.) by the wrestler standing in the middle of the ring, and then they bounce off the opposite rope to do a flying clothesline (Rock) get Lou-Theszed (Austin) or a flying roundhouse kick (RVD.) Those punches are thrown WAY too high to look like it had the possibility of hitting, same with the clotheslines.

 

Others:

Double chokeslam or suplex by Big Show on 2 smaller wrestlers

The forced double headbutt, and the preceding selling of the move. (made famous by Hogan)

[Guest Ripper]

"I hate the jump off the second rope right on to a guys extended foot spot.  WTF are they planning on doing anyway?"

 

They are trying to do the double footed RING SHAKE OF DOOM.  

 

Jeebus, study up on your wrestling history.

[Guest notJames]

That retarded cruiserweight move where they put their leg over their opponents neck, and use it as leverage to do a backflip. Why?

 

It's not the full spot, if you've ever seen one fullone you'd like it.

They do the set up, and the back flip, but on his way down, then dude doing the backflip catches the opp and does a rana. VERY RARELY ever seen in US wrestling.

I think I've seen Tajiri and a couple of other cruisers do that on US TV, although just jumping from the Fameasser position into the 'rana without a full backflip. In fact, isn't that kinda impossible to do a full backflip into a 'rana from that position?

[Guest papacita]

That retarded cruiserweight move where they put their leg over their opponents neck, and use it as leverage to do a backflip. Why?

 

It's not the full spot, if you've ever seen one fullone you'd like it.

They do the set up, and the back flip, but on his way down, then dude doing the backflip catches the opp and does a rana. VERY RARELY ever seen in US wrestling.

I think I've seen Tajiri and a couple of other cruisers do that on US TV, although just jumping from the Fameasser position into the 'rana without a full backflip. In fact, isn't that kinda impossible to do a full backflip into a 'rana from that position?

Edge did it a few times in 98 to. I think in his match w/ Mero and Jackie from SummerSlam

[Guest TheDames7]

Well, when Jannetty used the Rocker Dropper, that was the way to counter it, by standing straight up and he would flip out of it.  Now, it doesn't make sense because it seems that no one is trying to do a Rocker Dropper...they want to just flip over the guy (for no reason).  The last time I saw someone get a 'rana out of that position was Tajiri v X-pac at SummerSlam '01.  

 

Dames - Just Bought the DVD

[Guest TheDames7]

OH, I forgot to mention...

 

I HATE when RVD has his opponent laying down on the mat, and he attacks him twice, then backflips off the ropes and hits him again.  What the hell is that supposed to do besides show boat?

 

One time Joey Styles tried to play it off by saying that he was just trying to confuse his opponent.  Sorry, father, but No Dice.

 

Dames - The Rebellious Son

[Guest Dace59]

In fact, isn't that kinda impossible to do a full backflip into a 'rana from that position

 

Yes it is.

You catch the opp on the way over from the back flip (do a mid air twist so you are infront of the opp.) and carry on down, ranaing the opp. You catch them are the top of the back flip, really before you start doing it.

 

And it's not from a Famasser.

It and the Rocker Drop has different moves.

FamAsser has done leg over the neck, one under the throat, and the legs are crossed on the side of the opps. head.

Rocker Drop has the near arm in an arm wring, one leg over the back of the neck, other doing nothing.

[Guest saturnmark4life]

Where one guys finisher means the other guy's is a foregone conclusion eg TOF/swanton. Team moves are fine, but that just bugs me. Course, i'm biased against shitty hardyz, but feh.

[Guest ManKinnd]

I understand RVD's backflip before the third shoulderblock. He wants the third one to be from a distance, to give it more impact. That makes sense: A running clothesline hurts more than a standing one. So it's quicker to do a backflip than back up on your feet.

[Guest Dace59]

That, and it's flashy to draw some pops.

[Guest]

My pet hate spot is the sleeper, which has been re apppearing in the main event scene of the WWf... you know, the one where the hand get's lifted three times and the face mounts a comeback? That didn't work for me as an eigtht year old mark, and it's used so much it just irritates me now.

[Guest Dace59]

You also kno what I  can't stand in the WWF.

 

Big match.. Face vs. Heel, one on one, standard rules.

The Face has an injuried body part (EG. HHH vs. Jericho as WM8X)

The Heel will go to work on the body part over and over, with a lot of different moves and holds.. he will lock on his big hold that hurts that body part (or a big move to the part) and holds on tight.. but the god damn face doesn't tap (or he kicks out).. even part the body part should be destored from the hype about the damage done and the injury from the commentators.. and from the middle of the ring crawls to the ropes and grabs them. HOW??????!!!!!!! DAMN IT HOW!

Then the face no sells his injury in the transistion spots, hits his finisher once and pins the heel, even though the heel has hit 2/3 finishers and done far more damage to the face.

[Guest]

Any time Rikishi is clothelined, he flips, and for some reason, J.R. talks about the impressive strength of the man who flipped over Rikishi.

[Guest evenflowDDT]

I pretty much hate the usual hated moves: People's Elbow, Hogan Legdrop, Worm... they're dumb because they're regular moves made SUPER POWERFUL by the fact that there's some stupid build-up to them.  Granted, People's Elbow hasn't been used as a finisher in a long time before the Hogan match, but notice how the only reason that is is that's the cue for interference/ref bump.

 

Also, ref bumps in general are so unrealistic.  If I was a ref (assuming that this was "real life" and no storylines or anything) and I was bumped, especially if someone in the match is nWo or something where there's obviously going to be interference, I'd just call double DQ and leave.  Respect the ref dammit!

 

Besides the "face recovers on third arm fall" and "face no-sells minutes of gruelling submission on already injured ligament", I can't stand when the heel taps while the ref is bumped and the face just relinquishes the hold.  I mean come on... if he's tapping, leave him in the hold until the ref wakes up!

[Guest evenflowDDT]

I just remembered another move I can't stand... the "momentum gaining no-sell/block/strike tons of right hands" spot that faces get to do.  I especially can't stand it when The Rock does this and his stupid spit punch deal... how does spitting in his hand suddenly make a punch super powerful? Regal's got the power of the punch, not him...

 

Shouldn't complain so much about Rock moves though since it's not like we're ever going to see them again... at least not for a while.

[Guest Anorak]

I hate the slingshot into the turnbuckle spot that has around  seemingly forever. It looks especially stupid when its done from quite far away and a wrestler has to half land on his feet and tiptoe/jump a couple of extra yards to plant his head on the buckle.

[Guest Flyboy]

Hmm..

 

Rock's Sharpshooter, Rock's People's Elbow, Hogan's Leg Drop, Scotty's Worm, Lita's jump on your neck and flip thingy she does..

 

RVD's monkey flip thingy.  Why the roll?  I'm a huge RVD mark, but I never understood the roll with it.  It almost always gets reversed.  He use to do it with a chair, but it never looks like it REALLY hurts.

[Guest]

The Vandaminator: Let me just hold this chair you threw at me, RVD, so you can kick it in my face. Granted, it hasn't been done in awhile, but it use to be done all the time. I can understand it working once or twice (due to the element of surprise), but after awhile, you're retarded if you fall victim to it.

 

Booker T's scissors kick (or is it an axe kick?): It makes for a fine transition move, but as a finisher it's unrealistic.

 

Jericho's Lionsault: I love Jericho, but this, much like with Booker's kick, strikes me as more of a transition move (transition spot?) than a believable finisher.

 

Angle's ankle lock: I love Angle, but, as it has already been stated, the ankle lock has been killed as a believable finisher, since so many people counter it within five seconds of Angle applying it.

[Guest]

Forgive me if this has been mentioned

 

When a wrestler goes to the top to do a move or whatever, and when he jumps... he just jumps straight out.  Like, if he was in an empty ring, it would be the equivalent of him jumping off the top rope and just landing on his feet.  This is always done because he knows the opponent will be kicking him, moving. etc.  Sorry if that was confusing, but I think you'll know what I mean.

[Guest Flyboy]

The Vandaminator: Let me just hold this chair you threw at me, RVD, so you can kick it in my face. Granted, it hasn't been done in awhile, but it use to be done all the time. I can understand it working once or twice (due to the element of surprise), but after awhile, you're retarded if you fall victim to it.

 

Booker T's scissors kick (or is it an axe kick?): It makes for a fine transition move, but as a finisher it's unrealistic.

 

Jericho's Lionsault: I love Jericho, but this, much like with Booker's kick, strikes me as more of a transition move (transition spot?) than a believable finisher.

Vamdaminator:  Well, later in ECW people did start countering it.  When RVD went for it, they would duck or something.

 

In a spot with Storm and RVD it went:  Storm swings a chair at RVD, RVD ducks, RVD gets back up and goes for Van-Daminator, Storm by dodging the kick, but when he turns around Vam-Daminator.. didn't see it and couldn't block it.  That's how a Vam-Daminator is suppose to be.  

 

I think it's an axe kick.  And yeah.. it peeves me, too.  I'll kick you in the stomach, you double over for 5+ seconds for me to kick you.  Sometimes it's reversed by opponents just standing up, but not all the time.

 

And, you're right.  The Lionsault looks weak for a finisher.  Plus, I always thought it would be better and look cooler if it was done from the third rope instead of the second.

[Guest Flyboy]

Forgive me if this has been mentioned

 

When a wrestler goes to the top to do a move or whatever, and when he jumps... he just jumps straight out.  Like, if he was in an empty ring, it would be the equivalent of him jumping off the top rope and just landing on his feet.  This is always done because he knows the opponent will be kicking him, moving. etc.  Sorry if that was confusing, but I think you'll know what I mean.

HAHAHAHA!  Yeah, I know the spot.

 

Or when a guy is down and someone goes to the top rope to do a move, and jumps STRAIGHT off.  And gets a boot or something.  What the fuck were they going to do the the opponent.. a kick off the top rope?  o_O

[Guest TheDames7]

The way RVD snuck in the Van Daminator at InVasion vs Jeff Hardy was the best, most realistic way I've ever seen him do it.

 

Dames - Leads By EXAMPLE

[Guest Dace59]

And, you're right.  The Lionsault looks weak for a finisher.  Plus, I always thought it would be better and look cooler if it was done from the third rope instead of the second

 

The Quebrada (a second or top ROPE, not turnbuckles, springboard moonsault press or block) is used a lot in Japan.. and a lot from the 3rd rope.. for a 2 count.

 

A tranistion move is one that's nearly always missed and brings a turn in the tide.. eg Bubba's second rope senton, Sasuke's Moonsault Senton etc...

A transition spot is a longer chain of events with more moves and counters.. EG. RVD vs. Lynn.. chain wrestling into a a seris of dodged kicks.. RVD trys to leg sweep Lynn onto a a chair, Lynn jumps, and comes down leg dropped RVD into the chair.. putting Lynn in control.