Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 OU is an elite program. I can gurantee you they would not fire Bob Stoops if he had two 9-3 seasons in a row. I don't think that'd happen. I think Nebraska was having a problem and they screwed themselves even worse now. I don't think Callahan will get them in the National Title hunt at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 He was fired because they had a coach who wanted to take the job that had just been to the Super Bowl, and they figured he'd be a better coach than Solich was. Of course running an NFL offense when you're personnel's the exact opposite doesn't really work, but what can you do. Oh, and when you're going through SC's schedule, don't forget that Arizona State game next week. ASU's a legitimate Top 10 team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 He was fired because they had a coach who wanted to take the job that had just been to the Super Bowl, and they figured he'd be a better coach than Solich was. Of course running an NFL offense when you're personnel's the exact opposite doesn't really work, but what can you do. Oh, and when you're going through SC's schedule, don't forget that Arizona State game next week. ASU's a legitimate Top 10 team. The decision to fire Stolich had been made before they had an idea of who to replace him with. IIRC, their first few choices had turned them down before they finally pulled Callahan out of their ass, and it was a questionable choice considering WHY he was fired so soon after going to the Super Bowl. (The Raiders were having to remind each other during team meetings that they couldn't jump Callahan for being an asshole.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Oh and GreatOne......SC DID have a bad conference last year. You're right, a conference that went 4-2 in bowl games, to the Big XII's? Though it appears to be looking up this year. Oh and btw we play in the Big XII South....which is doing just fine. Thus making it tougher still. SC plays VT, Cal, and ND And ASU........ BTW the Big XII South is NOT a conference of itself, hate to break it to you. What would you have to say if the Big XII were all one like in basketball? Hmmm, looks like SOMEBODY'S gonna benefit from the lack of SOS this year, esp after that hard-fought win over Missouri or Kansas in the Big XII title game....................... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 This week's polls are out, and holy shit: UVA leapfrogged FSU in both polls. Well, that clinches it. We're going to lose in Tallahassee. Mad props to the AP voters for only dropping Cal one spot. Any team other than USC and yesterday's performance would have been a win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 The real question is how did Michigan only go up one spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Because Texas will always be overrated by the polls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Wow I'm really suprised that Purdue is #5 after struggling at Penn State. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Oh and GreatOne......SC DID have a bad conference last year. You're right, a conference that went 4-2 in bowl games, to the Big XII's? Though it appears to be looking up this year. Oh and btw we play in the Big XII South....which is doing just fine. Thus making it tougher still. SC plays VT, Cal, and ND And ASU........ BTW the Big XII South is NOT a conference of itself, hate to break it to you. What would you have to say if the Big XII were all one like in basketball? Hmmm, looks like SOMEBODY'S gonna benefit from the lack of SOS this year, esp after that hard-fought win over Missouri or Kansas in the Big XII title game....................... I know it's not a conference in of itself. But OU plays all the teams from the Big XII south and only 3 from the North. The South has tougher teams which is what OU has to play against mostly. The North sucks. And then on top of that it seems you want to blame OU for having a weaker conference this year. Yeah it's not there fault. Hate to break it to you but they ARE the #2 team in the country and they ARE good enough to be the #2 team and a lot of people on ESPN I've seen argue that they ARE good enough to be #1. Sorry but they don't suck like you seem to be implicating that they do. And they ARE deserving of the spot they have right now. Sorry but it's true. As much as everyone seems to have a problem with them and where they're ranked it is true that they ARE that good. And if they won the National Title and were undefeated then they would deserve it though I'm sure about half of the people here would cry that they don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 And on top of all of that they've won more games since 2000 than any other team. So they aren't exactly crappy as everyone seems to implicate. And I'm not saying they're the best ever. I'm saying they're legitimately the #2 team in the country which nobody seems to believe. And once again there conference strength is NOT their fault. Just like what happened with the Polls and the title game at the end of last year was NOT their fault. Though everyone seemed to act like it was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 As for Oklahoma, yes they are good enough to be the #2 team for now, but if Auburn finishes the season undefeated in the greatly more difficult SEC, they deserve to leapfrog them and take their spot in the Orange Bowl. And as for the polls, UVa, had to leapfrog FSU. I mean they almost lost to Syracuse. When you have one loss, you're supposed to actually be impressive in your wins if you want to be ahead of undefeated teams, not play like shit. I do agree though that the Seminoles are gonna be way too much for UVA to handle in Talahassee though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Actually no. OU is #2 for a reason. Because they are talented enough to be #2. If 3 teams finish undefeated then the 2 most talented deserve to be in the Orange Bowl. And I'm sorry but OU is one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 OU is very good, but right now I'd have Auburn just a notch above them. I feel like Auburn's had to deal with a larger variety of playing styles and more audacious conditions, and they've succeeded in all of them. No knock on the Sooners or Trojans, but if all three teams win out (which I don't think will happen), one of those two deserves to visit the Rose or Sugar Bowl instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Then it would be USC because they've had to many close calls whereas OU hasn't had any and Auburn has had like 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted October 10, 2004 I wish the BCS would just die for what they did to the Rose Bowl. Way to kill a good tradition there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 10, 2004 Is this Dama or Jim Ross with his OKLAHOMA! OKLAHOMA! shit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted October 10, 2004 GreatOne, just be thankful you weren't here during the great debate following the KSU/OU game last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Oh believe me, I am.................. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Well GreatOne seems to think that OU deserves nothing and is the worst team in the nation reading your posts. They ARE good. They ARE the #2 team in the country and if they go undefeated they DESERVE to play in the National Title game. Sorry but it's true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 11, 2004 That's the word, DESERVES. If no one else DESERVES anything, then why should OU? If OU finds a way to lose to KSU Saturday (or OSU later on) they're OUT of the nat title picture as far as I'm concerned unless you have 2001 all over again and everybody else loses. It's not that OU isn't a good team (we'll have Clarett/Williams vs the NFL again in two years with Adrian Peterson I'm sure), it's your piss-ass 'well OU and the rest of college football' attitude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Well everyone else has a piss-ass "Elite teams and then OU" attitude when they forget that OU is one of those teams. If they lose then yes they'll be out of the title picture unless there's only one undefeated team and the pollsters decide to vote them in at #2 or the BCS sticks them in at #2 which is likely to happen but I doubt it. I'm not saying nobody else deserves it. But if OU is undefeated then they deserve to play in that game b/c of the talent they have and what they can do on the field. Just because they don't blow people out by 50 every game this year doesn't mean jackshit. They have a totally different kind of offense. Rather than putting a bunch of points up quickly they put up a couple while eating all the clock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GreatOne Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Did I say a damn thing about margin of victory? Tell me where If OU remains undefeated yeah, they deserve to be there, and last year they would've too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 It's not just you. I have people in my local paper and people calling into the radio station complaining and asking what's wrong with OU b/c they didn't blow Oregon out by 60! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 He's like a mix of Jim Ross and Dick Vitale...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 I'm a fan. Get over it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Haven't we talked about laying off this shit a million times? Every single college football post on here ends up in the same goddamn place. So irritating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 And on top of that OU/USC or OU/Miami would be the two best National Title games. Mainly b/c of the fact that all 3 are College FB powers and will be for a long time. A National Title game between these schools would just be awesome. Especially an OU/USC game. I mean it'd be Leinhart against OU's experienced defense. Adrian Peterson against an experienced defense. Leinhart and White battling it out. It'd be a high scoring shootout or a low scoring defensive battle. But either way it'd be really good. OU/Miami would be a huge defensive battle. No doubt about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Haven't we talked about laying off this shit a million times? Every single college football post on here ends up in the same goddamn place. So irritating. Not until people accept the fact that I'm a fan thus I'm going to cheer for my team over all other teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Nobody says you shouldn't cheer your team. And I really haven't even seen anyone say OU doesn't deserve to be in the Top 2 right now. All we're saying is that if OU goes undefeated through their next 7 games playing no one tougher than Oklahoma St., and if Auburn defeats Arkansas, Georgia, and another tough team in the SEC Championship, to go along with their earlier wins over LSU and Tennessee, then they would probably deserve it even more. Obviously, if college football were fair, everyone who goes undefeated would have a shot at the national title. However, given the regulations in place, the situation of three undefeated teams would screw someone out of their rightful shot. Given the teams' schedules, it would be less unfair to keep an undefeated Auburn team out of the national title game than an undefeated Oklahoma squad. Of course, you really don't have anything to worry about because Auburn won't be able to go undefeated against that schedule and OU and USC should be able to have their own little party with no interruptions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2004 Man how much would it suck if Miami went undefeated and everyone else but one lost, putting the Hurricanes in the title game? There's something just wrong about Brock Berlin playing for the national championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
