CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 1. (1) USC 2. (2) Oklahoma 3. (4) Auburn 4. (8) Cal 5. (7) Wisconsin 6. (6) Utah 7. (10) Texas 8. (11) Tennessee 9. (9) Georgia 10. (3) Miami Oklahoma got a HUGE bump in the computers for finally beating a good team on the road -- every computer has them ranked either first or second, whereas previous weeks has seen them ranked as low as tenth in one computer poll. Despite losing ground in the human polls, as USC stole some first-place votes this week, Oklahoma solidified its hold on second place. Auburn is now ranked third in all eight polls this week. Hard to say if winning out will give them enough of an edge over OU in the computers to edge out the Sooners if they both stay unbeaten through the conference title games. Utah's edge over Texas is tenuous. Utah's strength of schedule isn't going to get any better in the coming weeks, and Texas could conceivably edge out Utah for 6th if they win out. I would throw up if the Longhorns backdoored their way into a BCS bowl over an undefeated Utah team. If Tennessee can win the SEC championship, they could also unseat the Utes from sixth, as they are ranked fourth in the computers, despite being 9th and 11th in the other polls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Funniest yet saddest scenario for Texas. OU loses next week but still holds enough ground to win the Big XII but there one loss hurts Texas thus screwing them out of an at-large bid. If OU loses at least I know I have that little piece of information to make me laugh. Hehehe....Texas sucks....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Oh and if I'm reading right here and all these other teams keep winning then Utah is basically out of a BCS game even if they're undefeated. Also Texas A&M's loss hurts Utah in the BCS does it not? And if OU beats them next week in College Station that hurts Utah a lot doesn't it? And a win at College Station would help OU just like the OSU win would it not? *takes some advil* Oh AND doesn't the winner of the Big East get an automatic bid? It comes out to 6 confernce winners and 2 at-large teams right? So that means somebody in this Top 8 isn't going no matter what b/c the Big East winner is going to take that spot though they don't have a Top 10 team. Crazy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 Looking at Texas' remaining schedule, I somehow find it difficult to believe that Texas will escape with wins over both OSU and A&M. They're the only team with a real shot to take out Utah, since a Georgia or Tennessee one-loss team would mean that Auburn has been bumped off. I'm also wondering if the BCS committee would give Utah a BCS berth anyway should Utah finish a very close 7th, rather than risk the public outcry that an undefeated team didn't get in... *wakes up* Nah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 While finishing in the Top 6 would guarantee Utah a BCS berth, they don't need to finish in the Top 6 to get one. Unless there are two at-large teams in the top 4, it is up to the Fiesta Bowl to pick whatever team in the Top 12 they feel would be the best draw. The Fiesta Bowl has already expressed interest in Utah due to the high number of fans that would likely travel to the game, so if Utah finishes undefeated, they're almost guaranteed to get a BCS berth. Also, if Tennessee wins the SEC Championship, they will automatically go to a BCS bowl as the SEC Champion, and it would be Auburn that would need to finish in the Top 4 and get an at-large berth. Looking at these rankings, I think I figured out what my dream scenario is. I want to see OU and Auburn both lose the rest of the way while Cal keeps their computer points, so that Cal and USC have a rematch in the Orange Bowl, while an undefeated Wisconsin team faces off against Miami or Utah in the Rose Bowl. It would probably be the right matchup, but the public outcry would be hilarious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 While finishing in the Top 6 would guarantee Utah a BCS berth, they don't need to finish in the Top 6 to get one. Unless there are two at-large teams in the top 4, it is up to the Fiesta Bowl to pick whatever team in the Top 12 they feel would be the best draw. The Fiesta Bowl has already expressed interest in Utah due to the high number of fans that would likely travel to the game, so if Utah finishes undefeated, they're almost guaranteed to get a BCS berth. Also, if Tennessee wins the SEC Championship, they will automatically go to a BCS bowl as the SEC Champion, and it would be Auburn that would need to finish in the Top 4 and get an at-large berth. Looking at these rankings, I think I figured out what my dream scenario is. I want to see OU and Auburn both lose the rest of the way while Cal keeps their computer points, so that Cal and USC have a rematch in the Orange Bowl, while an undefeated Wisconsin team faces off against Miami or Utah in the Rose Bowl. It would probably be the right matchup, but the public outcry would be hilarious. With Wisconsin's creampuff schedule due to the sudden crappiness of everyone else in the Big 10 not named Michigan, I can't feel sad for them at all if they miss the championship game squeaking out an undefeated season against scrub teams, while Cal's one loss is to the number one ranked team, at the last second. They really need a rule adjustment saying that conference winners only get an automatic slot if they finish in the top 10 of the rankings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 They really need a rule adjustment saying that conference winners only get an automatic slot if they finish in the top 10 of the rankings. How DARE you use logic and common sense in the face of the BCS!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
razazteca 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 That won't work since it would be seen as a playoff system. Playoff is a taboo word in College football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 I don't think it has anything to do with a playoff system. I like the idea that conference winners get a free berth, as if there's a situation with a conference winner like KSU last year who stepped it up at the end of the year to win their conference, they certainly deserve a free berth. The only adjustment I would make is to revoke the Big East's automatic berth, since they are no longer an elite conference on par with the other five major conferences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 1, 2004 That's what I was saying about the Big East. Who are we going to see from that conference in a BCS bowl? West Virginia? Won't they get lit up by any of those other possible BCS teams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 That's what I was saying about the Big East. Who are we going to see from that conference in a BCS bowl? West Virginia? Won't they get lit up by any of those other possible BCS teams? West Virginia, by default, will be the Big (L)East team this year and, yes, they WILL be blown away by the team they face. I mean, seriously... West Virginia will face someone like Cal, Auburn, Miami, Texas, or Tennessee and they'll get the smack down put on them. (I'm excluding Wisconsin because they're going to the Rose Bowl and Utah because there is NO way a bowl would put West Virginia against Utah if they could help it) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 I think the Fiesta will do West Virginia/Utah as long as the Utes win out. The TV ratings won't be great, but who gives a shit? You're only a few hundred miles from Utah and all those fans will certainly come, and West Virginia has an incredibly devoted following too. If you're going to get a blah team like West Virginia in there, you could do much worse than a very good team that's still a novelty in Utah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 2, 2004 W. Virginia is actually a pretty solid team. They could easily surprise somebody if they made a BCS game. Why the ACC took B.C instead of W. Virginia is mind-boggling. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 W. Virginia is actually a pretty solid team. They could easily surprise somebody if they made a BCS game. Why the ACC took B.C instead of W. Virginia is mind-boggling. -=Mike It's not that mind-boggling... 1. Boston = huge TV market while West Virginia = middle of nowhere 2. Certain ACC members weren't thrilled to take Virginia Tech to begin with and REALLY would have drawn the line at West Virginia I'm more surprised they didn't go after Syracuse or Pitt than West Virginia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 2, 2004 W. Virginia is actually a pretty solid team. They could easily surprise somebody if they made a BCS game. Why the ACC took B.C instead of W. Virginia is mind-boggling. -=Mike It's not that mind-boggling... 1. Boston = huge TV market while West Virginia = middle of nowhere 2. Certain ACC members weren't thrilled to take Virginia Tech to begin with and REALLY would have drawn the line at West Virginia I'm more surprised they didn't go after Syracuse or Pitt than West Virginia. Legit question: How much of a shit does Boston give about B.C? From my time in the NE, college football is a non-entity up there in the eyes of sports fans. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 Boston doesn't give a shit about BC's football program AFAIK. Their basketball program may be a different story. As for the ACC's reasoning, BC was a means to an end as it guarantees they get exposure in Boston for their GOOD teams (Florida State and Miami football, Duke and UNC basketball, etc.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 Boston College was also a good choice on the academic end. Obviously that's not the priority of athletic directors, but I know that the university presidents at least at Virginia, Duke, Wake, and UNC were adamant about keeping up the ACC's "tradition of academic excellence." BC's considerably higher than, say, Miami, in that respect. I don't mind BC, either. I think they'll fit in well in the mid-level of the conference for now, and probably be a bowl team once the ACC gets the 7 or 8 bowl bids it's sure to snag with a 12-team conference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 Isn't Miami a private school? How do so many NFL players go there then? Surely they can't all have that great of grades...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 Of the 3 Florida schools, Miami is the private school, FSU used to be one. Which kind of stokes the whole rivalry between the 3 Florida schools as Florida tends to look down on Florida State for being a former women's school and Miami as a small school in Coral Gables. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 Miami is a private school but it's really not that great. Think more Villanova than Duke. They also don't give a shit about grades when it comes to getting a good football player. The latest example is obviously Willie Williams, the 18-year-old with something like 12 felony counts and a sub-2.0 GPA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2004 If Auburn wins their matchup against Georgia they should be at least #2. Theyve beaten some pretty damn good teams already and a win against UGA should give them some points in the polls. Their schedule is very difficult to close the season playing Georgia, at Alabama, and the title game against Tennessee(probably). If they win out they deserve a title shot. I'm pulling for USC vs Auburn for the title. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites