Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 OU's ranking is looking pretty solid there. Except maybe in the last one. It looks like they'll hold on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 Unless they end up losing to ISU *snicker* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 Unless they end up losing to ISU *snicker* ISU isn't a KSU. They don't have any talent to shock OU with like KSU did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 I can't wait to see the mushroom cloud coming out of your head if they lose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 I can't wait to see the mushroom cloud coming out of your head if they lose If you hear that the entire city of Moore Oklahoma is a smoldering crater then you know what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 I might have to drive down to survey the damage And then laugh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 I might have to drive down to survey the damage And then laugh An entire city will be wiped off the map if ISU wins......and possibly half of Norman and OKC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 16, 2004 Unless they end up losing to ISU *snicker* ISU isn't a KSU. They don't have any talent to shock OU with like KSU did. Did just the late 90s Ohio State team that lost to a horrible Michigan State team and saw thier National Title hopes die about something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 I'm not so sure it'll be Iowa State. If they lose at Kansas State or against Missouri and Colorado can beat Nebraska, it'll be Colorado. Fear the Buffs. And if Colorado beats Nebraska and Missouri wins out (Iowa State and Kansas), then it'll be Missouri. There's always the possibility that Brad Smith could finally wake up for one game. Not bloodly likely, though. So odd. A 4-5 team still has a chance at a BCS bowl. Some other fun Big XII North math involves this scenario: Nebraska beats Colorado, moving to 6-5 and knocking the Buffs to 6-5. Missouri beats Iowa State and Kansas to go to 6-5, and Iowa State beats Kansas State to also end up 6-5. All 4 teams would be bowl eligible, to go along with the 5 teams in the South, making 9 eligible teams for 8 bowl bids. In that situation, Missouri, Iowa State, and Nebraska would have to go to some weird tiebreaker to decide the division. Whoever wins the division goes to the title game, gets waxed, and falls to 6-6. A team with a 6-6 record isn't eligible for a bowl in the 11-game season unless there aren't enough winning records to fill out a conference's bowls. Unless there's a loophole for winning the division (and there may be), the team that wins the division would be denied a bowl...by having won the division. Too funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 That's what happens when you suck the meat missile and let the other division slap a saddle on you and ride you across the southern US. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 Time to just abandon the whole division crap anyway...just have it be 1st place overall in the conf. vs. 2nd place. Thus it'd be OU vs. Texas in the Big 12 title game. And it'd be about the same quality game as Iowa St. would be, haha. But hey, at least it'd draw money and ratings, and really isn't that what college football is about? The thing about this is that if Auburn goes unbeaten and wins the SEC title game, then wins their bowl, we're looking at a split championship again. They'd be in a stronger arguing position than the 1 loss LSU last year. Besides, there are wild rivalry games yet to be played. OU just has crappy Baylor and a Big 12 North jobber...but USC has UCLA and ND left (both rivalry games) and Auburn has Bama, who you know would love to crush their rival's big season. If there's an upset, I almost think it could be Notre Dame. I base this on nothing other than ND can still get up for a big game if they are serious (Michigan, Tennessee). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 OU vs. Texas II would be nice. I say move OSU to the North so they can face off with OU every year. Bedlam II. That's become a more heated rivalry than OU/Texas b/c well......there's competition involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 Nah, the idea of a conference title game is to have teams that haven't played each other if it all possible. The last thing you want to do is guarantee a rematch. Besides, this is just a temporary problem as Kansas State's just having a down year, and should be back next year. Also, Callahan will turn Nebraska back around; it's just gonna take him four or five years to get the right personnel to the pass the ball. The only long-term correction the Big 12 needs to make is to upgrade the South by getting rid of Baylor and adding TCU in their place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 16, 2004 Talk coming on the radio today is that OU wants to play Colorado in the conference title game b/c it will help them with the BCS b/c they'd be the best team out of the North for SOS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 You shall get Iowa St. and like it! Haha. I didn't give this much thought but at #10 U of L has an outside shot at a real bowl. I think you have to be top 12 to be considered, right? I don't think we'll get in one though, so I'm hoping Utah gets fucked as well so we get a Dream Game Liberty Bowl with U of L vs. Utah. First team to 50 wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 You shall get Iowa St. and like it! Haha. I didn't give this much thought but at #10 U of L has an outside shot at a real bowl. I think you have to be top 12 to be considered, right? I don't think we'll get in one though, so I'm hoping Utah gets fucked as well so we get a Dream Game Liberty Bowl with U of L vs. Utah. First team to 50 wins. You have to be in the top 12 to get picked. HOWEVER... you're only automatic if you're in the top 6 and there are currently only two BCS at-large bigs. If Utah ends up in the top 6, that 2nd bid is almost assuredly going to a team from one of the 6 BCS conferences. Best teams for an at-large from each conference- Pac 10- California (They have an inside track, along with Texas, for the remaining bid.) Big 12- Texas (They have a good shot but circumstances usually work against them. Last year, it was K-State's unexpected B-12 title win. This year, it could be a loss to Texas A&M) Big East- None (There is no team in here that deserves an at-large bid. The closest contender, West Virginia, had a schedule that was rather soft.) SEC- LSU or Georgia (Both are 9-2, but LSU has the inside track despite losing to Georgia. LSU's losses were early in the season while Georgia had a humiliating defeat by Auburn broadcast on national TV last week.) Big 10- Wisconsin (This is a VERY slim possibility after their embarassing loss to Michigan State. Iowa should shut the door on them this week.) ACC- None (Miami's going to get the automatic bid and the rest of the pack has beaten each other up too much to get an at-large bid.) Oh, BTW... If Utah gets a BCS bid, the Liberty Bowl can plug anyone into Utah's spot. Most people think that Boise State would get that bid and Boise State vs. Louisville would be a GREAT matchup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 Ok so if OU gets shut out of the Orange Bowl(which at this poinit is looking very bloody unlikely) then where the hell does Texas go if they get into a BCS bowl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 17, 2004 I believe it'll end up like this Orange: USC/Oklahoma Sugar: Auburn/Miami Rose: Cal/Michigan Fiesta: Utah/Texas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 Utah, Texas, and Cal can't all play in a BCS bowl. It's 2 out of 3. There is only two at large bids and the winner of the Big East gets a bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 17, 2004 oh yeah, I forgot Utah wasn't a big 6 conference team. then Texas gets taken out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 It would be the following. Orange Bowl- USC vs OU Sugar- Auburn vs Miami Rose- CAL vs Michigan Fiesta- Utah vs Boston College HOWEVER, if Texas falls apart and OU gets ISU and Auburn somehow makes up the points, here is the expected Bowl set up Orange- USC vs Auburn Sugar- Miami vs Boston College Rose- Michigan vs Cal Fiesta- Oklahoma vs Utah Now then...how it will LIKELY happen. Fiesta- Texas vs Boston College. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Shadow Behind You Report post Posted November 17, 2004 I wish they would just get rid of the All of the Big 6 Conference champs get bids plus 2 wild cards deal. Just take the top eight in the bcs and establish the four bowls as levels(rotating of course) #1 and #2 in Orange, #3 and #4 in Rose, #5 and #6 in Fiesta and #7 and #8 in Sugar. Sure, it would be messed up but there have been times a Big 6 Conference champ went in over a more deserving team who didn't get one of those other wild card spots. Actually, It's a stupid idea. I just don't like the notion that a potential 6-5 team could upset the B12 title game and take away a more deserving Utah or Texas or Cal team's spot. I know it also affects it because you could have #6 and #5 being both from Florida (hypotheticaly speaking) and yet be forced to have the game in Airzona and have two west coast teams play in Florida. Which hurts ticket sales as well. So we established here, I am fucking dumb with College football and quite frankly should shut the fuck up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 I wish they would just get rid of the All of the Big 6 Conference champs get bids plus 2 wild cards deal. Just take the top eight in the bcs and establish the four bowls as levels(rotating of course) #1 and #2 in Orange, #3 and #4 in Rose, #5 and #6 in Fiesta and #7 and #8 in Sugar. Sure, it would be messed up but there have been times a Big 6 Conference champ went in over a more deserving team who didn't get one of those other wild card spots. Actually, It's a stupid idea. I just don't like the notion that a potential 6-5 team could upset the B12 title game and take away a more deserving Utah or Texas or Cal team's spot. I know it also affects it because you could have #6 and #5 being both from Florida (hypotheticaly speaking) and yet be forced to have the game in Airzona and have two west coast teams play in Florida. Which hurts ticket sales as well. So we established here, I am fucking dumb with College football and quite frankly should shut the fuck up. I believe conference champions have to finish in the Top 12 to qualify for the automatic bid. Some idiotic Pac-10 fans are trying to convince me that if OU and Auburn both lose then Cal will play USC in the Orange Bowl and ASU will play Michigan in the Rose Bowl because the Rose Bowl is allowed to pick a Pac-10 team over any others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Secret Agent 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 If Ou and Auburn both lost they'd have the same win/loss ratio as Cal. I don't see how it'd be possible for Cal to jump ahead at that point still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 I believe conference champions have to finish in the Top 12 to qualify for the automatic bid. Some idiotic Pac-10 fans are trying to convince me that if OU and Auburn both lose then Cal will play USC in the Orange Bowl and ASU will play Michigan in the Rose Bowl because the Rose Bowl is allowed to pick a Pac-10 team over any others. On the first part, that's completely wrong. The top 12 provision is only for at large-teams, as if there aren't two at-large teams in the top 4, or one at-large team in the top four and one mid-major in the top 6, the bowls can pick any top 12 team they want. As for the Orange Bowl, if OU and Auburn both lose and Cal doesn't, Cal will almost certainly pass both of them and play for the nationl title. The polls always drop teams that lose so Cal would likely be a comfortable 2 in both polls, and they're already ahead of Auburn in one of the computer rankings. However, if Cal isn't eligible for the Rose Bowl, either due to qualifying for the Orange Bowl or due to Texas passing them for fourth, then the Rose Bowl berth will likely go to Utah. First off, ASU would only be eligible if Texas isn't in the top four, and even if they were eligible, a two-loss team that got third-placein their conference isn't very attractive no matter what conference they're from. Finally, for Damaramu's original question, if Auburn passes Oklahoma for number two, and Texas passes Cal for number four, this is how the BCS bowls would likely look. Orange Bowl: USC vs. Auburn Rose Bowl: Utah vs. Michigan Sugar Bowl: Miami vs. Texas Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma vs. Boston College Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 If Ou and Auburn both lost they'd have the same win/loss ratio as Cal. I don't see how it'd be possible for Cal to jump ahead at that point still. Easy -- Cal would likely jump to #2 in the human polls, while Auburn and OU would drop to around 5 or 6. That'd give them plenty of an edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 I read an article today in the Courier-Journal (Louisville's newspaper) saying that the Liberty Bowl might want to keep Memphis at home to play U of L AGAIN should Utah get a BCS game. This is such a mindboggling, awful, pathetic idea on so many levels. First off, the game has already happened. It's a conference game for crying out loud! Bowls are supposed to be for new, intriguing matchups like U of L vs. Boise or Utah. Stuff that would garner lots of interest. Besides, we kinda owe Boise some payback from the 2000 defeat on that shitty blue turf in the Humanitarian Bowl. This is if we can't play Utah, mind you. One overhyped undefeated team is as good as another. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 All I have to say is...poor Boston College. They basically get a choice of getting their asses kicked by Utah, Miami, Texas or Oklahoma. OUCH:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 Yeah poor Boston College. The Big East doesn't deserve an auto-bid. It's such a terrible conference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2GOLD 0 Report post Posted November 17, 2004 Yeah poor Boston College. The Big East doesn't deserve an auto-bid. It's such a terrible conference. No wonder. The conference got ripped apart by the ACC. Big East needs to add some serious teams starting next season. I still firmly believe Penn State, Navy, and Notre Dame should enter the Big East starting next season. I can't see why Penn State would mind being in a conference with Navy, Rutgers, and UCONN instead of the monster they are in now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
