Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 OU is more than likely staying #1 in the computer rankings. The only thing that can knock them out is a loss or Auburn solidly becoming #2 and creating a HUGE gap in the polls between 2 and 3 which appears unlikely to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 I'm going to drive to Damaramu's house and spit on him if Oklahoma loses. Seriously dude, there's a world outside of Norman. Well I live in Moore Oklahoma so I'm aware of that fact....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 They're certainly not staying #1 in the computer rankings. They only moved ahead of USC a little bit ago, and playing Baylor's going to knock them back a bit, especially when USC takes on the Irish next week. They probably will remain ahead of Auburn in most of the rankings, and they probably will go to the Orange Bowl, but if you've studied the computer rankings at all, or even just gotten the general idea of how they tend to work from year to year, you'd know that Oklahoma's not staying at #1 in them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 SOS isn't a part of the rankings anymore. Can everyone stop saying this? SOS is short for strength of schedule. When their schedule gets weaker, it will cause their computer rankings to go down. Hence, when I say "(t)hey say that Baylor and Iowa State are gonna hurt Oklahoma's SOS enough that they'll drop dramatically in the computer rankings", that doesn't have to apply to a separate component ranking; it's just talking about what they've done this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 So no one but me thinks that OU is the only one of the three with a relatively safe schedule left? Everyone is talking like this thing is over but both Auburn and (to a lesser extent) USC have games left they could easily lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Nah, that ND win over Michigan finally got explained today. Michigan's not really that good. They just cruised through an easy Big Ten. There's absolute no way that the Irish can hang with USC in the Coliseum. As for Tennessee, if they weren't good enough to be within four touchdowns at the half when they played at home, why would they do better with a gimpy quarterback playing at a neutral site? Face it. There are going to be four undefeated teams in the BCS this year, and the logic of "they always lose" just isn't going to hold up this time around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 21, 2004 If that happens, the BCS is a useless joke. -=Mike Yeah whatever. You've already admitted to having a bias against OU AND read Ivan Maisel's article. He makes a very convincing argument for why EVERYONE should be in that game. And OU isn't the least deserving by any means based off the fact they played the toughest schedule of the 3 teams(yes they did they had tougher road games and there opponents combined record is the best). OU got a gift from God LAST year. Why? Because the PAC-10 was weak and it was held against USC. Well, the Big XII was WORSE this year than the PAC-10 was last year. OU has played a joke of a schedule and do not warrant back-to-back "Nebraska gift" spots in national title games that they will lose (the biggest win being over a stunningly mediocre Texas team). Auburn played a better schedule than OU. USC did as well. Hell, Cal is more deserving. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 No, Cal should not go over an undefeated OU team. Who exactly has Cal beaten this season that has been really good. Their best performance was a loss. Michigan pulled the same shit they always did yesterday, not coming to play, and then calling some horrible plays, and they totally don't deserve to go to Pasadena over Iowa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Team rankings were what they were at the time of the matchup. Cal's lost to #1 USC by only 6 points and beaten #21 Arizona State 27-0. USC has beaten #7 California 23-17 and #19 Arizona State 45-7 Auburn has beaten #4 LSU 10-9, #8 Tennessee 34-10 and #5 Georgia 24-6. Oklahoma has beaten #5 Texas 12-0, #20 Oklahoma State 38-35 and #22 Texas A&M 42-35. Cal stands no shot at upstaging Oklahoma period. Auburn has had the toughest beating 1 Top 10 and 2 Top 5 teams. USC has also had an easier schedule beating a Top 20 and Top 10 team vs Oklahoma beating a Top 5, Top 20, and Top 25 team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Back to Utah for a moment. Believe me, this is the friggin BCS, they'll find a way to fuck someone out of a bowl if they can help it. I'm not entirely sure WHO would pass them to get to #6 though. That said, I'd like someone to explain to me how Texas would get screwed out of a BCS game if they are ranked HIGHER in the BCS than Utah, have played a harder schedule, and the 1 loss was to a team in the title game. That said, I kinda hope Texas loses and U of L can somehow sneak into one of those BCS spots. It's damn near impossible, but hey, Michigan and FSU are out of the way now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Not only that but OU's opponents combined record is tougher than USC and Auburn's. On top of that OU's SOS is considered to be the highest in the country. Mike saying OU is playing the easiest schedule is just flat making things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Oh and OU's lead in the coaches poll just got extended from 2 points to 4. Wonder what will happen in the AP poll? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Not only that but OU's opponents combined record is tougher than USC and Auburn's. On top of that OU's SOS is considered to be the highest in the country. Once again the SOS rankings you are referring to is done by the NCAA and all they do is take a team's opponents overall records. Beating Bowling Green counts just as much as beating Georgia or Virginia Tech. That is not an accurate way to compare schedules. And where do you get that Oklahoma has the toughest schedule in the country? I may have to take one for the team and re-sign up for collegebcs.com so I can get the full BCS rankings so I can figure how the SOS would workout under the old system. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 D'oh! I didn't mean to write highest in the country. I meant to put highest of those 3. Out of those 3 OU's is the toughest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Gecko Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Nah, that ND win over Michigan finally got explained today. Michigan's not really that good. They just cruised through an easy Big Ten. Michigan is decent. They just have a young quarterback who was playing in a real hostile environment yesterday. You can't judge them on that one game against their arch rivals. Everyone knows that in the Ohio State/Michigan game, it doesn't matter if one of the teams is 1,000 times better than the other, both teams have a chance to come out with the win because of the emotion. But I will agree the Big Ten SUCKS ass this year... unfortunately. But I like how everyone notices when they suck, but when they went 6-0 in bowl games a few years back NOBODY seemed to notice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 As for Tennessee, if they weren't good enough to be within four touchdowns at the half when they played at home, why would they do better with a gimpy quarterback playing at a neutral site? "They never attack the same part of the fence twice. ... They're learning." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Not only that but OU's opponents combined record is tougher than USC and Auburn's. On top of that OU's SOS is considered to be the highest in the country. Mike saying OU is playing the easiest schedule is just flat making things up. Let's look: OU has played Bowling Green, Houston, Oregon, Texas Tech, Texas, Kansas State, Kansas, OSU, Texas A & M, Nebraska, and Baylor. Not ONE of those teams is terribly good. Texas is comically overrated. KSU is flat-out bad. OSU is a decent team --- but hardly a top level team. A & M is better than they were last year --- but that doesn't make them good. Auburn has played LA-Monroe, MSU, LSU, Citadel, Tennessee, La. Tech, Arkansas, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama --- with a game against Tennessee in the SEC Title game also following. You're going to even BEGIN to compare quality here? Arkansas, quite bluntly, is better than all but Texas and OSU on OU's weak schedule. Yes, BETTER. Put Arkansas in the Big XII North and they'd win it going away with ease. NOBODY on OU's schedule approaches Georgia or Tennessee. Bama is better than A & M. And if you want to compare the wekest links, Kansas State, Baylor, Nebraska, and Kansas are rather horrible, as are LA-Monroe, MSU, Citadel, LA Tech, and Kentucky. USC --- who has the automatic benefit of being shafted on behalf of OU last year as is --- played VA Tech, CSU, BYU, Stanford, Cal, ASU, Washington, OSU, Arizona, Notre Dame, and UCLA. You're going to attempt to argue that OU's schedule matches USC's, either? Cal is better than anybody OU has played --- as is VA Tech. Nobody outside of a massive OU homer can POSSIBLY argue that OU had anything but the easiest schedule of the 3. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Not only that but OU's opponents combined record is tougher than USC and Auburn's. On top of that OU's SOS is considered to be the highest in the country. Mike saying OU is playing the easiest schedule is just flat making things up. Let's look: OU has played Bowling Green, Houston, Oregon, Texas Tech, Texas, Kansas State, Kansas, OSU, Texas A & M, Nebraska, and Baylor. Not ONE of those teams is terribly good. Texas is comically overrated. KSU is flat-out bad. OSU is a decent team --- but hardly a top level team. A & M is better than they were last year --- but that doesn't make them good. Auburn has played LA-Monroe, MSU, LSU, Citadel, Tennessee, La. Tech, Arkansas, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Georgia, and Alabama --- with a game against Tennessee in the SEC Title game also following. You're going to even BEGIN to compare quality here? Arkansas, quite bluntly, is better than all but Texas and OSU on OU's weak schedule. Yes, BETTER. Put Arkansas in the Big XII North and they'd win it going away with ease. NOBODY on OU's schedule approaches Georgia or Tennessee. Bama is better than A & M. And if you want to compare the wekest links, Kansas State, Baylor, Nebraska, and Kansas are rather horrible, as are LA-Monroe, MSU, Citadel, LA Tech, and Kentucky. USC --- who has the automatic benefit of being shafted on behalf of OU last year as is --- played VA Tech, CSU, BYU, Stanford, Cal, ASU, Washington, OSU, Arizona, Notre Dame, and UCLA. You're going to attempt to argue that OU's schedule matches USC's, either? Cal is better than anybody OU has played --- as is VA Tech. Nobody outside of a massive OU homer can POSSIBLY argue that OU had anything but the easiest schedule of the 3. -=Mike Dama isn't an OU homer? He creamed in his pants when he saw Jason White... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomasmoney 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Since Texas did not win their conference they have to be in the top 4 in the BCS to get a automatic berth. Cal is ranked #4, and they will get the at large bid to the Rose Bowl since they want the Big 10 Pac 10 matchup Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Mike you have a bias against OU. So why should I listen to anything you're saying? You saying that Arakansas is better than A&M is laughable. The combined record of OU's opponents is better than SC and Auburn's opponents combined records. It's that simple. And I'm laughing even harder at you trying to say the bottom of the SEC is better than the bottom of the Big XII. Just not true in any way. Mike don't talk to me on the subject. You've already admitted a bias against OU so I'm not going to listen to a word you have to say b/c you're just spewing shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Damaramu makes football not fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Damaramu makes football not fun. He managed to turn the whole forums against him. How... appropriate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Seriously. It's gotten to the point where I can't even read these threads anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Mike don't talk to me on the subject. You've already admitted a bias against OU so I'm not going to listen to a word you have to say b/c you're just spewing shit. Gee that's not the pot calling the kettle black. <---I'm changing my avatar just for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Damaramu makes football not fun. I completely agree. It's no use even trying to discuss any other team but OU on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 21, 2004 Mike you have a bias against OU. So why should I listen to anything you're saying? You saying that Arakansas is better than A&M is laughable. Laughable --- but horribly accurate. Arkansas has one of the most underrated QB's out there and a defense and offense that will give people trouble. And for a hater, remember one thing: I was one of the few here who sided with you who had no problem with OU getting the national title shot last season. Why did I support it? Because USC played a weak schedule. Which is the same problem OU has now. The combined record of OU's opponents is better than SC and Auburn's opponents combined records. The gift of an insanely weak Big XII, where everybody is equally horrible. It's that simple. And I'm laughing even harder at you trying to say the bottom of the SEC is better than the bottom of the Big XII. Just not true in any way. It couldn't conceivably be more true. Baylor is worse than ANY SEC team. Nebraska is about as bad as Kentucky. Mike don't talk to me on the subject. You've already admitted a bias against OU so I'm not going to listen to a word you have to say b/c you're just spewing shit. You bitching about somebody being blinded to reality is hilarious. I actually defended OU getting the shot last year. No way in hell I'll defend them getting a SECOND "Nebraska shot". Southern Cal and Auburn have played significantly better schedules against significantly better opposition. I am PRAYING that OU falls on its face in the Big XII title game AGAIN --- just to see you bend over backwards to defend them being in the national title game regardless. -=Mike ...Oh, and Jason White shouldn't be in the same sentence as "Heisman"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 People complain about Damaramu but then post stuff like "Cal deserves to be ahead of OU" which serves no purpose other than to bait him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 21, 2004 People complain about Damaramu but then post stuff like "Cal deserves to be ahead of OU" which serves no purpose other than to bait him. Cal would beat OU straight up. If Dama doesn't like it, then he might need to learn to deal with it. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 People complain about Damaramu but then post stuff like "Cal deserves to be ahead of OU" which serves no purpose other than to bait him. Cal would beat OU straight up. If Dama doesn't like it, then he might need to learn to deal with it. -=Mike Even if that were true (its just speculation given that anything can happen) there's no way a one-loss PAc-10 team can be ranked ahead of an undefeated Big-12 team. Frankly, I think Utah should be ahead of Cal at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 21, 2004 People complain about Damaramu but then post stuff like "Cal deserves to be ahead of OU" which serves no purpose other than to bait him. Cal would beat OU straight up. If Dama doesn't like it, then he might need to learn to deal with it. -=Mike Even if that were true (its just speculation given that anything can happen) there's no way a one-loss PAc-10 team can be ranked ahead of an undefeated Big-12 team. Frankly, I think Utah should be ahead of Cal at this point. I don't --- simply because I do feel they should look at more than a W-L record. If Texas makes it over Utah, yeah, there's a huge problem. But Cal is really a damned solid team. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
