This Week in College Football 11/18 - 11/20

[therealworldschampion 0]

Temple should move to the Sun Belt and see if they can give North Texas a run.

 

There were actually rumors about a year ago that Temple was being sought by Conference USA because they wanted to get into the Philadelphia TV market, but those got squashed when C-USA wanted Temple in their basketball league too, and Temple was definitley not leaving the Atlantic 10.

[Secret Agent 0]

I think i'd rather see OU/Auburn at the Orange Bowl if OU goes, but oh well.

[Damaramu 0]

I think i'd rather see OU/Auburn at the Orange Bowl if OU goes, but oh well.

It'd be an easier game than a USC game.

For the Orange bowl if it's USC and OU you're basically giving the two best coaches in the country a month to prepare for the biggest game of their careers with all of their players healthy. That makes both teams very dangerous.

[Guest MikeSC]

I think i'd rather see OU/Auburn at the Orange Bowl if OU goes, but oh well.

It'd be an easier game than a USC game.

For the Orange bowl if it's USC and OU you're basically giving the two best coaches in the country a month to prepare for the biggest game of their careers with all of their players healthy. That makes both teams very dangerous.

Gee, Dama, for a guy who menstruates whenever somebody calls OU less than the best team on the planet, you don't seem to have a problem insulting Auburn consistently.

 

Sad, because --- just like last year --- the SEC team would humble the Sooners.

-=Mike

[Gert T 0]

I have a question, if Auburn loses to Tennessee in the SEC Title game, could Utah still get shut out the BCS bowls? Right now the projected BCS standings would be.

 

1. USC

2. Oklahoma

3. Auburn

4. Cal

5. Texas

6. Utah

 

Michigan and Tennessee would then have automatic bids and still be out of the Top 6, and I would assume Auburn would still be in the Top 6.

 

There is still a lot of football left though.

[Guest MikeSC]

I have a question, if Auburn loses to Tennessee in the SEC Title game, could Utah still get shut out the BCS bowls? Right now the projected BCS standings would be.

 

1. USC

2. Oklahoma

3. Auburn

4. Cal

5. Texas

6. Utah

 

Michigan and Tennessee would then have automatic bids and still be out of the Top 6, and I would assume Auburn would still be in the Top 6.

 

There is still a lot of football left though.

Well, if OU loses, Utah is guaranteed to get the shaft, as the voters won't drop OU out of the top 6. If Auburn loses, they will fall out of the top 6 --- unfair as it may be --- so odds are, it wouldn't cause a problem.

-=Mike

[Damaramu 0]

I think i'd rather see OU/Auburn at the Orange Bowl if OU goes, but oh well.

It'd be an easier game than a USC game.

For the Orange bowl if it's USC and OU you're basically giving the two best coaches in the country a month to prepare for the biggest game of their careers with all of their players healthy. That makes both teams very dangerous.

Gee, Dama, for a guy who menstruates whenever somebody calls OU less than the best team on the planet, you don't seem to have a problem insulting Auburn consistently.

 

Sad, because --- just like last year --- the SEC team would humble the Sooners.

-=Mike

If humbling is getting beat when your QB has a broken hand, foot, and bad knees and still only losing by a TD then yeah I suppose they were humbled.

If being humbled is also not allowing the other team one single first down in the second half. Then yeah they got humbled.

There was no humbling in that game. OU had a statue with a bad throwing hand at QB and still almost won the game.

[Guest MikeSC]

I think i'd rather see OU/Auburn at the Orange Bowl if OU goes, but oh well.

It'd be an easier game than a USC game.

For the Orange bowl if it's USC and OU you're basically giving the two best coaches in the country a month to prepare for the biggest game of their careers with all of their players healthy. That makes both teams very dangerous.

Gee, Dama, for a guy who menstruates whenever somebody calls OU less than the best team on the planet, you don't seem to have a problem insulting Auburn consistently.

 

Sad, because --- just like last year --- the SEC team would humble the Sooners.

-=Mike

If humbling is getting beat when your QB has a broken hand, foot, and bad knees and still only losing by a TD then yeah I suppose they were humbled.

Gee, come up with a few excuses? *sniff* White was on his deathbed --- DEATHBED I TELL YA! *sniff*.

 

LSU had injuries. Everybody has injuries. The better team overcomes them.

If being humbled is also not allowing the other team one single first down in the second half. Then yeah they got humbled.

There was no humbling in that game. OU had a statue with a bad throwing hand at QB and still almost won the game.

Nope. Score was close, but at no point did I feel OU had a good shot at actually winning it.

 

Same if they played Auburn --- except Auburn would handle them fairly easily.

-=Mike

[Damaramu 0]

You keep saying that yet you have nothing to back it up. If OU goes in and handles USC you'd still be going on about how Auburn would've taken the Sooners by 10 TD's and injured there entire starting lineup. Yeah whatever. You're bias. If I have no more opinion on the matter b/c I'm bias then neither do you b/c you're just as bad as me.

 

And when the heart and soul of your offense is hurt so bad he shouldn't have been playing then yeah.....the game will get lopsided.

It's funny that people expected White to turn in this herculean performance with those injuries when I don't think there is a person that could've with those injuries.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

I have a question, if Auburn loses to Tennessee in the SEC Title game, could Utah still get shut out the BCS bowls? Right now the projected BCS standings would be.

 

1. USC

2. Oklahoma

3. Auburn

4. Cal

5. Texas

6. Utah

 

Michigan and Tennessee would then have automatic bids and still be out of the Top 6, and I would assume Auburn would still be in the Top 6.

 

There is still a lot of football left though.

No, Utah is in, barring an insane freak-out from the computer rankings tomorrow. The "non-BCS team in the top 6" rule ranks higher than the "BCS team in the top 4" rule in the hierarchy for defining at-large bids. If Auburn lost the SEC championship game, they wouldn't get a bid unless they stayed in the #3 slot ahead of Cal.

 

Barring a Cal loss to Southern Miss in their final game of the year, the two at-large bids are already automatically assigned to the Golden Bears and the Utes. No one past the top 6 has a chance of sneaking in unless Texas, Cal, and probably Auburn all lose. The only controversy this year will be who goes where.

[Guest MikeSC]

You keep saying that yet you have nothing to back it up. Yeah whatever. You're bias. If I have no more opinion on the matter b/c I'm bias then neither do you b/c you're just as bad as me.

Well, Auburn has already handled better teams than OU.

If OU goes in and handles USC you'd still be going on about how Auburn would've taken the Sooners by 10 TD's and injured there entire starting lineup.

Man, you should be arrested for assault on the concept of hyperbole there. You are the one proclaiming the massive injuries suffered and how that is the only reason they lost --- not that LSU was, in fact, a better team.

And when the heart and soul of your offense is hurt so bad he shouldn't have been playing then yeah.....the game will get lopsided.

Are ALL Sooners this whiny? Good God. Do you need some Tampax?

It's funny that people expected White to turn in this herculean performance with those injuries when I don't think there is a person that could've with those injuries.

No. He just turned in a shit performance.

 

Of course, facing superior teams will do that to ya.

-=Mike

[Damaramu 0]

Hmm......a shit peformance b/c he was injured! Why does nobody understand that!?

 

But I digress. The LSU defense was better than the Sooner offense. When you have no run game and have to rely on a no-legged one armed man to throw a ball to guys that aren't open b/c LSU's secondary is riding them like Boomer and Sooner down field then yeah......you lose.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Man, I'm really hoping that USC gets clipped this week by Touchdown Jesus and so we can settle this stuff once and for all in January.

[Damaramu 0]

Man, I'm really hoping that USC gets clipped this week by Touchdown Jesus and so we can settle this stuff once and for all in January.

No you will not steal my OU/USC match that I have been craving since last season!

We can settle Auburn/OU next year!

 

Ah hell OU is going to lose 2 games next year probably. 18 starters graduating? Yeah this is gonna suck.

[Hogan Made Wrestling 0]

Personally I expect the Big 10 to be back with a vengeance next year. Michigan, Iowa, and Ohio State will all be improved.

[Damaramu 0]

Well maybe Michigan can finally get back to the title game. Or Iowa can go to the BCS championship game against.........ummm.......FSU?

Next year will be interesting.

[iggymcfly 0]

Here's a complete summary of what this thread consists of week after week:

 

80% - Damaramu arguing with the whole rest of the forum about whether OU deserves an Orange Bowl shot

 

15%- Someone stating that they had a "revelation" that Utah can miss the BCS even if they're in the Top 6.

 

5%- Rational discussion of other aspects of college football.

 

I actually don't even mind the Orange Bowl discussion that much since it is the number one issue in college football, but that second one is my pet peeve.

 

I know I've explained in these threads at least three times how Utah automatically gets in as a mid-major in the Top 6, I've seen Bored do it a couple times, and now Edwin MacPhisto is getting put in that role.

 

For the last time, if Utah is in the Top 6, they automatically get a BCS berth as a MID-MAJOR that's that high. It doesn't matter if they get passed by Texas or Cal or if Auburn or Oklahoma is an at-large team in the top six. Those teams ARE NOT mid-majors and the rule does NOT apply to them. The only way Utah can lose their berth is if there are two at-large teams in the national championship game.

 

On a related note, Boston College doesn't have to be in the top 12 to get a BCS berth. It's only when a conference's BCS representative averages a worse rank than 12 for four years that their BCS spot even goes under review.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

Amusingly enough, the one conference in danger of that review this year is the ACC. FSU juuuuust winning the conference with mediocre records the past several years has brought the average down substantially. Nothing would come of it, of course, but it's interesting to note.

[Art Sandusky 0]

Dama, it's "biased." Not "bias." Fuck.

[Damaramu 0]

Dama, it's "biased." Not "bias." Fuck.

I've been yelled at both ways!

 

Anyways the ACC is under review? Well I think they may have become the new power conference now. The Big East though.....any chance the Big East basically become a mid-major in the future? And is there a mid-major anyone feels is good enough to become a BCS conference?

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

The ACC isn't under review yet, but if the champion finishes somewhere below #14, I think, they might be. Like I said though, no one's going to take a bid away from a conference who, while not yielding a monster champion these past few years, certainly has one of the most impressive aggregate spread of teams in Division I.

 

The Big East may stop the bleeding if Louisville continues to perform well and one of the other new additions can step up. Losing BC is going to be another blow, but with Louisville, West Virginia, Pitt, and UConn, the Big East still probably has a more formidable block of teams than any mid-major. The MAC probably comes closest on a consistent basis, but still doesn't have what it takes to guarantee a bid.

 

One thing I'd like to see would be the Big East's automatic bid replaced by a third at-large slot. This bid would go to the top-ranked team not in any of the 5 BCS conferences. Under this year's system, that would be Louisville (or Utah, if we eliminated the top-6 qualifier thing). The Big East teams that still do well--this year's West Virginias and Louisvilles, for example--will probably have the best chance of winning that bid out of anyone, but mid-major teams will also have a much more likely chance of getting into the BCS every season.

[cabbageboy 0]

No, the Big East cannot become a mid major! U of L is joining next year. I refuse to go from one shitty mid major league to another! Heh.

 

I have a lousy feeling that U of L will end up #7 in the BCS at season's end, meaning they'll get screwed. We do need to take care of Cincy though, they've been jobbers on fire of late.

 

If Cal or Texas loses then this gets very interesting. I think Auburn would get a BCS bowl at 11-1, even if they lose to TN.

[Guest MikeSC]

No, the Big East cannot become a mid major! U of L is joining next year. I refuse to go from one shitty mid major league to another! Heh.

 

I have a lousy feeling that U of L will end up #7 in the BCS at season's end, meaning they'll get screwed. We do need to take care of Cincy though, they've been jobbers on fire of late.

 

If Cal or Texas loses then this gets very interesting. I think Auburn would get a BCS bowl at 11-1, even if they lose to TN.

The addition of Louisville protects the Big East. It's not a great conference, but having 2 solid teams (W. Virginia and Louisville) would be enough.

-=Mike

[Bored 0]

Because of the brawl on Saturday South Carolina and Clemson announced they will not accept any bowl invitation. So turns out after all that it was Lou Holtz's last game.

 

Navy have accepted an invitation to the Emerald Bowl, formerly the San Francisco Bowl.

[Edwin MacPhisto 0]

That's pretty rough. Especially for a Clemson team that overcame that nasty 1-4 start to get bowl eligible. The ACC won't miss the $20 payout from whatever the 7th bowl would have been.

[Guest MikeSC]

That's pretty rough. Especially for a Clemson team that overcame that nasty 1-4 start to get bowl eligible. The ACC won't miss the $20 payout from whatever the 7th bowl would have been.

6 win teams shouldn't be going regardless. There are way too many bowls and NEITHER Clemson (who got thrashed by Texas A & M and lost to friggin' Duke) or S. Carolina deserved bowl shots, regardless.

-=Mike

[teke184 0]

That's pretty rough.  Especially for a Clemson team that overcame that nasty 1-4 start to get bowl eligible.  The ACC won't miss the $20 payout from whatever the 7th bowl would have been.

6 win teams shouldn't be going regardless. There are way too many bowls and NEITHER Clemson (who got thrashed by Texas A & M and lost to friggin' Duke) or S. Carolina deserved bowl shots, regardless.

-=Mike

The funny thing is that there are about 54 bowl game spots and only 51 eligible teams so far... and with Clemson and South Carolina pulling out, it's going to be hard to fill all of those spots.

 

 

Teams on the verge of eligibility-

 

Syracuse (5-5, plays Boston College next)

Arkansas (5-5, plays LSU on Thursday)

Nebraska (5-5, plays Colorado next)

South Florida (4-5, plays Pittsburgh and Memphis)

Tulane (4-5, plays TCU and Louisville)

Southern Miss (5-4, plays UAB and California)

TCU (5-5, plays Tulane)

Hawaii (5-5, plays Northwestern and Michigan State)

 

 

Of those teams, the ones with the best chance of becoming bowl eligible are Hawaii, TCU, and Nebraska. A 6-6 Hawaii would probably get an NCAA exemption to be bowl-eligible and play a home game at the Hawaii Bowl.

 

Southern Miss has a decent chance, but they'd better beat UAB because that Cal game will be a bitch.

 

Syracuse and Arkansas may pull it off if they're lucky.

 

Tulane and South Florida are basically screwed. Tulane will NOT beat Louisville and South Florida can't beat both Memphis and Pittsburgh.

 

 

If the chips fall just the right way, there will be bowl games without eligible teams, which will be pretty damn embarassing.

[teke184 0]

BTW, the best bowl matchup projected so far is Louisville vs. Boise State in the Liberty Bowl. That's provided that Utah goes to a BCS bowl and the Liberty Bowl is allowed to invite anyone to replace them as a result.