Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2004 People complain about Damaramu but then post stuff like "Cal deserves to be ahead of OU" which serves no purpose other than to bait him. Cal would beat OU straight up. If Dama doesn't like it, then he might need to learn to deal with it. -=Mike Even if that were true (its just speculation given that anything can happen) there's no way a one-loss PAc-10 team can be ranked ahead of an undefeated Big-12 team. Frankly, I think Utah should be ahead of Cal at this point. I don't --- simply because I do feel they should look at more than a W-L record. If Texas makes it over Utah, yeah, there's a huge problem. But Cal is really a damned solid team. -=Mike W-L record starts meaning less to me once someone is no longer undefeated, but there's something special about having to play each week without having lost, and in Utah's case knowing that if you do lose your season is practically down the toilet. I don't, however, think that Boise State has any business being ahead of Cal or several other teams. But Utah is just about as good as any team outside of the top 3. I'm hoping that they get to play whichever of the top 3 doesn't end up in the title game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 You keep saying that OU doesn't deserve the National title shot when they ran through the Big XII South undefeated. They ran through the whole Big XII. If the North wasn't so weak and was just average then people would be talking about the Big XII as one of the best conferences in the country based off the fact that the South is so damn strong. So don't give me this weak schedule BS b/c OU has played a tougher schedule than USC. The Pac 10 is still weak and I think the Big XII South could run roughshod over the Pac 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 And Auburn is shunted back down to #3 in the human polls! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I think that after this season, preseason polls should really be done away with, since they're only in place so the media can hype up the season. Did anyone really believe that Florida was the 10th best team in the country this year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Sandusky 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Yay? Now I know why Damaramu always defends Anglesault. They're the same person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Yay? Now I know why Damaramu always defends Anglesault. They're the same person. I hate the Yankees though...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 So don't give me this weak schedule BS b/c OU has played a tougher schedule than USC. The Pac 10 is still weak and I think the Big XII South could run roughshod over the Pac 10. So... OU has to play a weak Iowa State or whoever the hell it is in the Conference Championship game, yet USC defeated a ranked team to, in effect, win their conference (I know it was still early, but in retrospect, its safe to say it was probably the conference title game).... yeah mmm you're horribly biased. It's no longer fun to talk to you. In fact I'd pitch the idea for you to be banned from sports folder next year during college football season if you continue to preach your illogical biased rationale... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 You keep saying that OU doesn't deserve the National title shot when they ran through the Big XII South undefeated. They ran through the whole Big XII. If the North wasn't so weak and was just average then people would be talking about the Big XII as one of the best conferences in the country based off the fact that the South is so damn strong. So don't give me this weak schedule BS b/c OU has played a tougher schedule than USC. The Pac 10 is still weak and I think the Big XII South could run roughshod over the Pac 10. Sagarin has OU's SOS at 18th, while USC's is 9th. A function of the PAC 10 generally playing better teams than the Big XII. I might agree with you if you were speaking of the conferences as a whole, but there is no way Oklahoma, Texas and A&M "run roughshod" on USC, Cal and Arizona State. They'd be lucky to finish 1-2 in that series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 OU could handle ASU very easily. They could beat USC to and it'd be a great game with Cal. As a matter of fact OSU and Texas could run all over ASU. I've seen OU's schedule ranked at 10 with USC's down at 37. OU won their conference by going 11-0 in a very tough conference. Replace USC with OU and they'd do the same thing in the Pac 10 easily. Looks like we get to find out now though. Everyone's been talking about OU and USC since the beginning of the season. Well it looks like we're going to find out who's better in the Orange Bowl after what happened in this past weeks polls. So it'll all be settled in January. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Damaramu makes football not fun. I completely agree. It's no use even trying to discuss any other team but OU on here. I tried my best with the OaO thread to contain him but it couldn't work without it being enforced. Damaramu I think needs a some enforced time off from this folder preferbly through the end of the bowl season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 22, 2004 He's even polluting one of the few college basketball threads as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Damaramu makes football not fun. I completely agree. It's no use even trying to discuss any other team but OU on here. I tried my best with the OaO thread to contain him but it couldn't work without it being enforced. Damaramu I think needs a some enforced time off from this folder preferbly through the end of the bowl season. Yeah ban me b/c none of you agree with me. That's fair. Yeah I would stay in the OaO thread if people didn't go into these threads and bait me by bashing on OU. Hey guess what guys? They're going to the Orange Bowl and are probably going to win! And Auburn isn't! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 He's even polluting one of the few college basketball threads as well. Actually I just mentioned OU as a joke in there and other people started talking about them in a positive light. There was no going crazy. Now you're just flat making things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Damaramu makes football not fun. I completely agree. It's no use even trying to discuss any other team but OU on here. I tried my best with the OaO thread to contain him but it couldn't work without it being enforced. Damaramu I think needs a some enforced time off from this folder preferbly through the end of the bowl season. Yeah ban me b/c none of you agree with me. That's fair. Yeah I would stay in the OaO thread if people didn't go into these threads and bait me by bashing on OU. Hey guess what guys? They're going to the Orange Bowl and are probably going to win! And Auburn isn't! You don't have to be the defender of OU, and I think you rarely have cause too. Your persecution complex is ridiculous. No one else on here defends their team with anywhere near the combination of venom and mania that you reach on a daily basis. I think calling to ban anyone is lame because this is a freaking message board, but no one would be banning you because they don't agree with you; they'd be doing it because you're irritating as shit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Damaramu makes football not fun. I completely agree. It's no use even trying to discuss any other team but OU on here. I tried my best with the OaO thread to contain him but it couldn't work without it being enforced. Damaramu I think needs a some enforced time off from this folder preferbly through the end of the bowl season. Yeah ban me b/c none of you agree with me. That's fair. Yeah I would stay in the OaO thread if people didn't go into these threads and bait me by bashing on OU. Hey guess what guys? They're going to the Orange Bowl and are probably going to win! And Auburn isn't! You don't have to be the defender of OU, and I think you rarely have cause too. Your persecution complex is ridiculous. No one else on here defends their team with anywhere near the combination of venom and mania that you reach on a daily basis. I think calling to ban anyone is lame because this is a freaking message board, but no one would be banning you because they don't agree with you; they'd be doing it because you're irritating as shit. Touche' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Damaramu makes football not fun. I completely agree. It's no use even trying to discuss any other team but OU on here. I tried my best with the OaO thread to contain him but it couldn't work without it being enforced. Damaramu I think needs a some enforced time off from this folder preferbly through the end of the bowl season. Yeah ban me b/c none of you agree with me. That's fair. Yeah I would stay in the OaO thread if people didn't go into these threads and bait me by bashing on OU. Hey guess what guys? They're going to the Orange Bowl and are probably going to win! And Auburn isn't! You don't have to be the defender of OU, and I think you rarely have cause too. Your persecution complex is ridiculous. No one else on here defends their team with anywhere near the combination of venom and mania that you reach on a daily basis. I think calling to ban anyone is lame because this is a freaking message board, but no one would be banning you because they don't agree with you; they'd be doing it because you're irritating as shit. To be fair, no other team gets randomly attacked as much as the Sooners. So it's a chicken-or-egg question: which came first? Personally, I think it's the OU bashing because it came in full force last season after the BCS standings came out due to this board being largely a PAC-10/Mid-majors circle jerk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 To be fair, no other team gets randomly attacked as much as the Sooners. So it's a chicken-or-egg question: which came first? Personally, I think it's the OU bashing because it came in full force last season after the BCS standings came out due to this board being largely a PAC-10/Mid-majors circle jerk. I wouldn't quite say its all Pac-10/Mid-Majors supporters here. I mean you have some Big Ten and SEC fans here as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Damaramu makes football not fun. I completely agree. It's no use even trying to discuss any other team but OU on here. I tried my best with the OaO thread to contain him but it couldn't work without it being enforced. Damaramu I think needs a some enforced time off from this folder preferbly through the end of the bowl season. Yeah ban me b/c none of you agree with me. That's fair. Yeah I would stay in the OaO thread if people didn't go into these threads and bait me by bashing on OU. Hey guess what guys? They're going to the Orange Bowl and are probably going to win! And Auburn isn't! You don't have to be the defender of OU, and I think you rarely have cause too. Your persecution complex is ridiculous. No one else on here defends their team with anywhere near the combination of venom and mania that you reach on a daily basis. I think calling to ban anyone is lame because this is a freaking message board, but no one would be banning you because they don't agree with you; they'd be doing it because you're irritating as shit. To be fair, no other team gets randomly attacked as much as the Sooners. So it's a chicken-or-egg question: which came first? Personally, I think it's the OU bashing because it came in full force last season after the BCS standings came out due to this board being largely a PAC-10/Mid-majors circle jerk. I'd say Dama has caused most of the OU backlash on here. I was totally indifferent towards them until he started in on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 But I'm virtually the only Big XII fan here. So I have to defend the conference too. And well it's not hard to defend the South but the North....yikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Edwin MacPhisto 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Screw UTEP. I'm an ACC boy all the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I'd say Dama has caused most of the OU backlash on here. I was totally indifferent towards them until he started in on here. There was venom directed at them last season before I ever opened my mouth. Then this season people were waiting to tear them down. Like I said. There is an obvious bias when OU's come from behind win against A&M on the road gets them nothing but venom yet a come from behind win on the road by Auburn and USC shows how gutsy they are and how much they deserve to be at the top. I've heard every one, save Kirk Herbstreit and igg, tear OU down for that but promote the other teams for the exact same thing. When OU's come from behind win was at a tougher place and against a better team than Stanford and Alabama. I dunno if I should be flattered b/c everyone expects seems to expect more out of my team or insulted b/c everyone is down on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MikeSC Report post Posted November 22, 2004 You keep saying that OU doesn't deserve the National title shot when they ran through the Big XII South undefeated. They ran through the whole Big XII. Big bloody whoop. The Big XII is shit outside of Oklahoma. Beating Texas? Forgive me if I don't spontaneously combust at the excitement over beating such a powerhouse that has won somewhere in the neighborhood of zero big games in the last few years. If the North wasn't so weak and was just average then people would be talking about the Big XII as one of the best conferences in the country based off the fact that the South is so damn strong. The South ISN'T strong. Texas is criminally overrated. OSU is above-average. Texas Tech is fun to watch, but hardly an impressive program. So don't give me this weak schedule BS b/c OU has played a tougher schedule than USC. The Pac 10 is still weak and I think the Big XII South could run roughshod over the Pac 10. Cal would have beaten OU. VA Tech would have had a damned good chance of beating OU. Who on OU's schedule could have put up a fight against USC? Texas? And Auburn is shunted back down to #3 in the human polls! Good. I almost hope they don't make it. Might kill the BCS quicker if another Nebraska title shot happens. OU could handle ASU very easily. They could beat USC to and it'd be a great game with Cal. As a matter of fact OSU and Texas could run all over ASU. Believe that if you wish. You'd be horribly incorrect, but that hasn't stopped you yet. To be fair, no other team gets randomly attacked as much as the Sooners. So it's a chicken-or-egg question: which came first? Personally, I think it's the OU bashing because it came in full force last season after the BCS standings came out due to this board being largely a PAC-10/Mid-majors circle jerk. Saying OU doesn't warrant a national title shot due to a weaker schedule than Auburn or USC causes a conniption. Fact is, OU might get a national title shot because assumptions made before the first snap of the season assumed OU would be better than Auburn. That is the ONLY reason OU leads Auburn at present. Take away pre-season polls and Auburn is ahead of OU --- and comfortably so. There was venom directed at them last season before I ever opened my mouth. Then this season people were waiting to tear them down. Like I said. There is an obvious bias when OU's come from behind win against A&M on the road gets them nothing but venom yet a come from behind win on the road by Auburn and USC shows how gutsy they are and how much they deserve to be at the top. A & M and OSU are horribly overrated programs in your eyes. And nobody is saying the come-from-behind win over Bama is why Auburn is better. It's because they beat LSU, Georgia, and Tennessee --- 3 teams better than anybody OU has played all year --- is why they should be ahead. -=Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therealworldschampion 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 There is an obvious bias when OU's come from behind win against A&M on the road gets them nothing but venom yet a come from behind win on the road by Auburn and USC shows how gutsy they are and how much they deserve to be at the top. Except the fact that OU got torched for 35 points and needed a missed Hail Mary to win their game while Auburn was down 6-0 on the road in a rivalry game against one of the top defenses in the country and came back impressively in the second half, with a garbage time TD being the only reason that Auburn didn't win by 2 TDs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 There is an obvious bias when OU's come from behind win against A&M on the road gets them nothing but venom yet a come from behind win on the road by Auburn and USC shows how gutsy they are and how much they deserve to be at the top. Except the fact that OU got torched for 35 points and needed a missed Hail Mary to win their game while Auburn was down 6-0 on the road in a rivalry game against one of the top defenses in the country and came back impressively in the second half, with a garbage time TD being the only reason that Auburn didn't win by 2 TDs. Oh I'm sorry would that guy catching the Hail Mary in the end zone magically have given them enough points to win the game? If they went for 2 and that'd have been stupid. And when your best defensive player is out you kind of lose something out their. Not to mention they were on the road. Mike everything you've said about the Big XII south and OU's schedule is false. You are flat out making things up. And OU isn't getting a Nebraska title shot b/c while Nebraska had lost and wasn't int he conference title game and wasn't #2 in the human polls OU is undefeated, did win its conference and IS #2 in the human polls! SO it's not a Nebraska title shot b/c they deserve to be in and they are getting in. So cry about it all you want b/c they're in. You people have no logic when it comes to OU! It's all "They suck and there conference sucks! Nyah!" You're the only people in the world I know that can hate on a team this much and give them this much shit for NO reason. They've won all their games and they've beaten 4 Top 25 teams and gone undefeated in the 3rd best conference in the country! Yet they're still getting shit. Fuck you guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Now you've driven me to name calling! If any of you would show anything besides OU hate colored glasses then there wouldn't be a problem. None of you can EVER give OU ANY credit. Anytime anybody has a reason for why OU is good you guys come up with some reason to tear them down! I've never seen such bias. Yes I'm very bias towards them but you guys are JUST AS bias if not more so against them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EVIL~! alkeiper 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I've seen enough of this. Damaramu, if you get this upset over your team, step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath. The OU debates dominate these discussions, and it is unfair for the fans of other college football teams. And for the rest of you, I would ask that you not bait this discussion. Please keep discussion of the merits of OU in the OaO thread. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I've seen enough of this. Damaramu, if you get this upset over your team, step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath. The OU debates dominate these discussions, and it is unfair for the fans of other college football teams. And for the rest of you, I would ask that you not bait this discussion. Please keep discussion of the merits of OU in the OaO thread. Thank you. Well at least someone sees that I'm getting baited a lot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I've seen enough of this. Damaramu, if you get this upset over your team, step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath. The OU debates dominate these discussions, and it is unfair for the fans of other college football teams. And for the rest of you, I would ask that you not bait this discussion. Please keep discussion of the merits of OU in the OaO thread. Thank you. Well at least someone sees that I'm getting baited a lot. To be fair, I would say you're baiting them as well... but that's just my opinion. I'm just as big USC fan as you are OU fan and yet I don't harp on it in here. I try to keep an open mind over everything and it just seems like you won't do the same. That's my only problem with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hogan Made Wrestling 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 I've seen enough of this. Damaramu, if you get this upset over your team, step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath. The OU debates dominate these discussions, and it is unfair for the fans of other college football teams. And for the rest of you, I would ask that you not bait this discussion. Please keep discussion of the merits of OU in the OaO thread. Thank you. That's total BS because at least half the time it's fans of the other teams who are starting the discussions about OU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Not to mention that Mike is basically just making shit up to get a rise out of me. Half of the stuff he said is just untrue. And I wouldn't have such a problem with it Slasher if EVERYONE wasn't against OU. And a lot of the time nobody has a valid reason to be. Hell half the time people are only seeing what they want to see. "Well OU gave up 35 points on the road!" (forgetting the fact that they're playing at very tough places to play against Top 25 teams without there best defensive player) And something that another team does gets them a lot of praise while if OU does the same thing the media lights them up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites