CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 1 (1) USC 2 (2) Oklahoma 3 (3) Auburn 4 (4) Cal 5 (5) Texas 6 (6) Utah 7 (9) Boise State 8 (11) Georgia 9 (12) Miami 10 (10) Louisville No change at the top this week. The gap between Utah and Boise State is cavernous, meaning that Utah is guaranteed a BCS bowl. Now, the interesting thing this week is the Texas/Texas A&M game. Texas was able to close the gap with Cal this week (naturally, given that Texas didn't play and Cal only blew the doors off Stanford -- gotta love that BCS!), meaning that a win over A&M could very well put Texas over Cal for the #4 spot, which would mean an automatic bid for the Longhorns. However... A Texas loss could also very well spell the end of Cal's BCS hopes, as it could put Boise State 6th in the final BCS standings. This would mean that Utah and Boise State, as non-BCS conference schools ranked in the top 6, would both get into a BCS game, leaving Cal out in the cold, and the Rose Bowl without a PAC-10 representative. Very interesting... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Wait.....but since Cal is ranked #4 doesn't that mean they're automatically in even if there were two mid-major schools ranked 5 and 6? And Texas might jump Cal? I mean I support the Big XII and all but it'd be a sham for Cal not to get a BCS bowl. They could eat Texas for lunch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Open the Muggy Gate 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Texas needs to lose now. WE NEED CHAOS! I just hope something could kill this evil that we call the BCS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Wait.....but since Cal is ranked #4 doesn't that mean they're automatically in even if there were two mid-major schools ranked 5 and 6? The rules state that any mid-major ranked in the top 6 gets a BCS berth. Cal could be ranked 3rd and still get shut out. And Texas might jump Cal? I mean I support the Big XII and all but it'd be a sham for Cal not to get a BCS bowl. They could eat Texas for lunch. They might get screwed no matter what happens. I think there's very little chance that they can get a BCS berth at this point, even if every team ranked above them were to lose in the next two weeks. USC has the PAC-10 title locked up, even if they lose to UCLA. About the only way left is if either Georgia or Miami were to leapfrog Boise State. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Also the gap between OU and Auburn got bigger and the gap between OU and USC got smaller. I think it's pretty safe to say that it's going to take a loss for Auburn to get into the Orange Bowl. And I still thought whoever was ranked in the Top 4 got an auto-bid above the Top 6 Mid-Major. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Slayer 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Wait.....but since Cal is ranked #4 doesn't that mean they're automatically in even if there were two mid-major schools ranked 5 and 6? The rules state that any mid-major ranked in the top 6 gets a BCS berth. Cal could be ranked 3rd and still get shut out. The rule only applies to mid-majors? Well, now I'm not so confused anymore, at least. This last weekend I was trying to figure out how the top 6 teams all get automatic bids while the 4 conference champs also get automatic bids, since that wouldn't always add up to at most 8 slots. As for the big picture, I'm torn... On the one hand, two BCS busters = GOOD On the other, no Pac-10/Big-10 Rose Bowl = BAD ...though that's just the traditionalist in me talking, since Cal/Michigan doesn't really interest me near as much as other possible matches from the Pac-10 (esp. a not-possible USC-Michigan rematch from last year) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USC Wuz Robbed! 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 (esp. a not-possible USC-Michigan rematch from last year) Well unless USC loses one of their final two games... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bored 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Utah is a great story but Bosie State as the #7 team in the country is laughable. Their offense could score on any team in the country but their defense would get torn to shreds by most of the Top 25. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfaJack 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 And Utah wouldn't get beat by many of the Top 25? I have a serious problem with them being ranked as high as they are. They're a very good team, no doubt, and have done all they can with the schedule they had, but they've got exactly one win that you can count as a quality win and it was, at home, against an overrated A&M team. To put them in the top 5 is ridiculous. Cal, Texas, and Georgia would all beat Utah, and you can probably throw Miami and Louisville into that group as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Well I dunno about most of the Top 25. Utah's a great team. They're a little undersized but I mean they're quick as hell and have a good offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyQuinn 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 Utah's D doesn't allow many points(20.6) but they allow a ton of yards(350.3). Top Defenses in the Country - Alabama: 15.4 PPG and 235.9 YPG - Auburn: 9.6 PPG and 267 YPG - USC: 11.6 PPG and 267.8 YPG - Virginia Tech: 13.1 PPG and 269.6 YPG - North Carolina State: 20.1 PPG and 229.5 YPG - LSU: 16.1 PPG and 250.2 YPG - Florida State: 13.7 PPG and 270.6 PPG - Wisconsin: 14.6 PPG and 275.9 YPG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wildbomb 4:20 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 You know what I love? The fact that BC, with a win this Saturday, goes to a BCS Bowl. They're a very good team. A lot better than a lot of people thought. Their losses were huge, but in my mind, they were because of mental (read: lack of preparation) mistakes on their part. We'll see how it goes, but damn, it's fun to be in Boston these days. --Ryan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 And Utah wouldn't get beat by many of the Top 25? I have a serious problem with them being ranked as high as they are. They're a very good team, no doubt, and have done all they can with the schedule they had, but they've got exactly one win that you can count as a quality win and it was, at home, against an overrated A&M team. To put them in the top 5 is ridiculous. Cal, Texas, and Georgia would all beat Utah, and you can probably throw Miami and Louisville into that group as well. Given they've beaten everyone they've faced by an average of nearly 30 points, I think they're pretty legit. As for Boise State...that's just the way the system works. They won all their games, and there's no one else in a major conference with fewer than 2 losses. That'll get them high enough in the polls to make some noise. Actual talent is, and always has been, irrelevant in deciding the BCS. I, for one, am just happy that some mid-majors are finally getting the chance to step up to the plate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the pinjockey 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2004 In regards to Utah's D. Don't overlook the fact, they score so much that they are going to allow more points and yards just based on the fact they give their opponents more drives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 How come no one has pointed out some total bullshit involving Louisville? Last week U of L is #10 in the BCS and did nothing wrong (in fact we squashed Houston bad). Yet lo and behold Georgia (who I don't think even PLAYED) and Miami (jobber squash) somehow passed the Cards in the BCS for no apparent reason. Yet neither team passed Boise, who moved up. I'm personally pissed at this. I thought U of L would move up to about #7 or 8 in the BCS given the Michigan and FSU losses, and maybe still have a very slight shot at the BCS if a few teams are upset. Fuck the BCS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Why didnt Louisville move up at all? And even tho I LOATHE those fuckers at Texas, I want Cal to destroy Auburn/Oklahoma, so I hope they don't choke vs A&M But they will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Damaramu 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Why didnt Louisville move up at all? And even tho I LOATHE those fuckers at Texas, I want Cal to destroy Auburn/Oklahoma, so I hope they don't choke vs A&M But they will. How will Cal destroy Auburn/OU? If OU doesn't go to the Orange Bowl they go to the Fiesta bowl. If Auburn doesn't go to the Orange Bowl they'll go to the Sugar Bowl. Cal is playing Michigan in the Rose Bowl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rrrsh Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Why didnt Louisville move up at all? And even tho I LOATHE those fuckers at Texas, I want Cal to destroy Auburn/Oklahoma, so I hope they don't choke vs A&M But they will. How will Cal destroy Auburn/OU? If OU doesn't go to the Orange Bowl they go to the Fiesta bowl. If Auburn doesn't go to the Orange Bowl they'll go to the Sugar Bowl. Cal is playing Michigan in the Rose Bowl. O yah, I was stupidly thinking The National Championship was the Rose Bowl this year. Cal will murder Michigan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanadianChris 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Cal has to make it there first. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Bear in mind that Cal barely escaped against Oregon recently by 1, so they might not stomp Michigan. I want to hear why Georgia passed U of L in the BCS. I guess it's better to play NO ONE than squash a jobber. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teke184 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Bear in mind that Cal barely escaped against Oregon recently by 1, so they might not stomp Michigan. I want to hear why Georgia passed U of L in the BCS. I guess it's better to play NO ONE than squash a jobber. Of the poll portion: Louisville had 1166 votes in one poll (.718 of all possible points) and 1021 in the other (.670). Georgia had 1093 points in one poll (.673) and 1092 in the other poll (.716), putting them comparable with Louisville in poll standings. Miami had 1030 points in one poll (.634) and 950 in the other (.623), for the worst poll average of the three. Of the computer portion: Louisville did by far the worst of any top 10 team. Their computer portion (.450) was equal to that of 8-2 LSU, who had trouble putting away Ole Miss on Saturday and whose biggest win is probably the one over 7-4 Florida. Georgia wasn't much better (.500), but it was enough to help boost them above Louisville in the overall totals. Miami had the best computer score of the three (.620) but the worst poll standing, which nudged them above Louisville but just behind Georgia (.004 difference in the averaged totals). If you have a problem, take them up with the computers. Do it fast, though, as teams from the Big East, where Louisville is headed, have the WORST computer rankings of any teams in the BCS poll. West Virginia's ranking is about .010 and Boston College's rating isn't much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iggymcfly 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 You people are making this way too complicated. The computer rankings are comparable to where they were last week. The problem is that at least in the AP Poll, Louisville was already ranked ahead of Wisconsin and Florida State last week. Thus, those teams losing gained them only minimal points. However, Georgia at 11 and Miami at 12, were ranked behind both of those teams, so when they lost, that gave the Dawgs and Canes a huge bonus in the rankings. Since Georgia moved up from 11 to 8 in the AP poll, Miami moved up from 12 to 9 and Louisville only went from 8 to 7, it minimized the poll difference enough that Georgia and Miami could overtake them with the benefit of the computer rankings which don't know how much Louisville's been blowing out the jobbers by, or how close they came to winning in Miami. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 At first I was going to complain about BC going to a BCS game but as it turns out theyre only a 3 loss team. Those losses are ugly (Wake, Pitt) but close (losing by a combined total of 6 points). I dont think theyre better than UGA, Louisville, or Miami but they are BCS bound If California gets shut out of the BCS picture there are gonna be some pissed off people. Cal has had a better season than anyone ranked behind them and is as good as USC. If you play that game 10 times, Cal wins 5. The Rose Bowl would be furious as well because they want Cal/ Michigan badly. No one wants to see Boise State play in this game over Cal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cabbageboy 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 Believe me, Boise St. isn't going to make a BCS game. The system might allow for one mid major jobber to sneak in, but not two. That said, if Cal somehow loses to So. Miss do they still deserve it? Normally I'd call that an ambush game but So. Miss really isn't so hot this year. Utah...Boise....can U of L please get SOME overhyped undefeated team in Liberty Bowl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nogoodnick 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2004 If Cal does lose Saturday then they probably dont deserve to be in a BCS game. The one team that isn't going to make it but is definitely deserving is Louisville. They damn near beat Miami on the road and that is their only blemish. Hopefully they get a good bowl matchup. The Big East better watch out because its looking like U of L is the team to beat next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites