Deer Hunter Kills 6 in Shooting Rampage

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

Hmong Hunter 'Shoots Five

In Forest Rampage'

By Marcus Warren in New York

The Telegraph - UK

11-22-4

 

Five hunters were killed and three wounded in a deadly shoot-out in the Wisconsin forests at the start of the state's deer hunting season.

 

A 36-year-old man, Chai Soua Vang, was in custody yesterday, suspected of opening fire on his fellow hunters after a row over access to a tree stand.

 

Vang allegedly went on an armed rampage through a forest in the north-west of the state on Sunday when challenged over his right to use the raised platform, murdering the five, one of them a woman, with a rifle.

 

"It was like he was chasing after them to kill them," said Tim Zeigle, of Sawyer County Sheriff's Department. "The bodies were a long way from one another."

 

Vang, a member of the exile Hmong minority from Laos, who aided the Americans in the Vietnam war, got lost in the woods after the shootings and was helped out by two other sportsmen unaware of the carnage nearby. As he emerged, he was arrested.

 

"When he was taken into custody, his gun was empty and I bet those guys are thanking their lucky stars," Mr Zeigle said.

 

Hunting parties erect tree stands to get a better view of surrounding forest. Using someone else's is regarded as bad form.

 

 

 

 

Hmong Immigrant Kills Six,

Wounds Three

Hmong Gangs Takes Place In Deadly, Racist Society

From Mike Crockett

11-23-4

 

BIRCHWOOD, Wis. - Yesterday, a Hmong immigrant from the 24,000-strong "Hmong community" of St. Paul, Minnesota crossed the border into Wisconsin on a hunting trip.

 

Armed with a high-velocity semi-automatic assault-style rifle, Chai Vang, 36, wandered onto private property, ignoring the bright orange "no trespassing" signs and took a position in someone else's hunting platform.

 

Locals have complained that the Hmong, a tribe from the jungles of Southeast Asia, have no respect for the concept of private property and hunt wherever they see fit. Apparently this is true. When Vang was confronted by two caucasians -- a man and his son -- instead of moving on, he shot them both. Before dying, the father managed to radio for help. Six of his hunting companions converged at the scene on two ATV's and were immediately fired upon. Those who were not hit fled into the woods but were chased down and shot.

 

Unfortunately, the eight had only one gun between them. It is not known if they fired even one shot in return.

 

After killing the five and wounding three, the Hmong immigrant reversed his orange vest to the camouflage side to avoid capture, and attempted to flee the area. However, lost in the woods, he required the assistance of two more to find his way out. Luckily for the two, Vang was out of ammunition. For a complete report see the AP link below.

 

In February of 2003, the FBI released a law enforcement bulletin warning that throughout the United States, the level of Hmong criminal activity was increasing in severity. Extracts from the FBI bulletin:

 

The Hmong have become involved in a wide range of crimes, such as homicides, gang rapes, prostitution, home invasions, burglaries, auto thefts, and, most recently, the sale and distribution of illicit drugs.

 

In the St. Paul/Minneapolis area during the summer of 1999. Within about a 6-week period, at least 22 shootings were reported.

 

Hmong gangs have considerable mobility. It is not uncommon for gang members to drive from California to North Carolina, stopping en route to visit fellow gang members in other states, such as Minnesota or Wisconsin. Many times, these gangs transport guns to another state and commit crimes in transit. Because of this mobility, law enforcement agencies investigating these gangs must maintain a high level of communication to effectively track gang activity.

 

Hmong gangs also present a violent threat to people who are not members of gangs. The most frequent and violent crimes against nongang members are rape and prostitution.

 

In Warren, Michigan, several members of a Hmong gang were arrested for repeatedly raping teenage girls who they had held prisoner for nearly 3 weeks. The victims came from Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

 

The lead investigator stated that the case was so large that officials had to pursue it in three phases. In the first phase, the grand jury handed down 350 indictments on 14 suspects. Eleven of the suspects pled guilty and received sentences ranging from 17 to 31 years in prison. Two other gang members got 280 years and 4 months and 94 years and 4 months, respectively, in prison. The second phase consisted of the grand jury handing down a 323-count indictment and several of the suspects pleading guilty. The third phase included 9 victims and 20 suspects, in which the grand jury handed down an 826-count indictment. Several suspects pled guilty and others were found guilty.

 

 

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This is the big local story .....really fucked up

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

I don't justify the author making this incident out to be an indictment on the whole Hmong people BTW....

[Guest Frank_Nabbit]

The Shooter claims they were calling him gook, and that they shot at him 1st..... the authorities aren't buying it.....

 

The Hmong took his blaze orange off, hid and snipered the 8 men down

 

after the shooting the guy hid in the woods for 2 hours, then decided to turn himself in

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Funky name.

 

In PA they had three days of bear hunting. Boy were the rednecks out in full force...

[Slayer 0]

This is just now getting posted?

 

I thought about posting it, but beyond the "it's a shame" aspect of it, there's not much else you can say.

 

Although I found it funny that he played the race card

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

My favorite line:

 

the Hmong immigrant reversed his orange vest to the camouflage side to avoid capture

 

Yeah, that'll work, and where is Hmong?...

[Slayer 0]

I think it's in Hmongia

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Thanks for narrowing it down...

[Slayer 0]

Hmong-land?

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

Fuck it's a race, not a country. I seriously need to read more than a sentence or two of a news story posted here. I throw myself at the mercy of the thread. Insult away...

[The Czech Republic 0]

Hmongolia

[Der Kommissar 0]

I believe it's a tribe of people from Laos, if I remember correctly.

[Guest MikeSC]

Well, seems more sporting than hunting deer...

-=Mike

[Vern Gagne 0]

^That's sounds like something a hippy would say.

[Guest MikeSC]

^That's sounds like something a hippy would say.

Nah. Just somebody who knew a bunch of hunters and thought they were rather useless people.

-=Mike

[The Czech Republic 0]

In Wisconsin, you can ask for a week off from school to hunt deer and nobody even tries to challenge it.

[kkktookmybabyaway 0]

^That's sounds like something a hippy would say.

Nah. Just somebody who knew a bunch of hunters and thought they were rather useless people.

-=Mike

Well, when the New World Order comes around you'll thank your lucky stars those hunters and milita people are there to protect you...

[Guest Astro]

In Wisconsin, you can ask for a week off from school to hunt deer and nobody even tries to challenge it.

He's not kidding...