Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Well the good thing about the Pats is, with the exception of Brady, they don't rely on just one or two mega stars (like, say, Atlanta). They are a team in every sense of the word, nothing flashy, but they are a well-oiled machine. The best thing they can do is make sure they keep the team as efficient as it is, which will mean making sure as few of its members leave for free angency as possible. Yeah I often look at their roster and wonder how they are so good, but if you watch them play they A) Mesh very well, playing as a team and B) Don't make many mistakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 That's why they'll keep a guy like Troy Brown who might have lost a couple steps. He's been with the team on all three super bowl trips, knows the system better than anyone, and is just a total class veteran. I even like the idea of converting him full-time to CB, he's been incredible filling in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted December 3, 2004 -also edit - No one is TO, Moss or Harrison. It's really hard to compare someone to three of the best WRs off all time (who all happen to be playing during the same time period)... I think Michael Irvin, Jerry Rice, Sterling Sharpe, and Steve Largent would all have something to say about that. Probably Don Hutson too, were he still alive. Yes I realize I included two Packers on that list. Can't deny Hutson practically invented the WR position, and Sharpe had a fantastic, albeit brief career. That's why they'll keep a guy like Troy Brown who might have lost a couple steps. He's been with the team on all three super bowl trips, knows the system better than anyone, and is just a total class veteran. I even like the idea of converting him full-time to CB, he's been incredible filling in. You mean three of their four super bowl trips, right? Pats got demolished by the `85 Bears in that Super Bowl. I didn't know Troy Brown was around when Parcells' Pats lost to the Pack in `97, either. Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crimson Platypus 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 I didn't say the three best, I said three OF the best. Which they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Man in Blak 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 I didn't know Troy Brown was around when Parcells' Pats lost to the Pack in `97, either. Interesting. Yep, led the team in touchdowns too, with six. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Also Brown could also make a career out of playing DB if he gets bored with being a receiver. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Salacious Crumb Report post Posted December 3, 2004 I think Michael Irvin, Jerry Rice, Sterling Sharpe, and Steve Largent would all have something to say about that. Probably Don Hutson too, were he still alive. Shame on you for leaving off Art Monk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted December 3, 2004 Or Irving Fryar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Precious Roy 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2004 You mean three of their four super bowl trips, right? Pats got demolished by the `85 Bears in that Super Bowl. I didn't know Troy Brown was around when Parcells' Pats lost to the Pack in `97, either. Interesting. I meant of the modern-era Pats, since Bledsoe, Parcells and the uni change, yeah. 85 is too far in the past to have any bearing on this team. Brown, Vinatieri, Bruschi, Ted Johnson, Law and McGinest are all holdovers from that 96 team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Cerebus Report post Posted December 4, 2004 Any coincidence that four of those names are on the defense and the Pats have one of the best Ds in the league? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2004 For the Jets, i'll be quick. A real Tight End and improve the secondary. A good Tight End would REALLY help the Jets even more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Vitamin X Report post Posted December 4, 2004 You honestly believe that all that stands between the Jets and the Lombardi Trophy is a good tight end and a couple great cornerbacks? While the Jets have had a terrible year passing the ball statistically, that's mainly due to Pennington being out for the past month or so. But then again, they also don't really have any big receiving threat outside of Santana Moss. Chrebet just isn't the player he used to be, sadly enough, since I liked his toughness and what was once his ability to run after the catch. Also, Curtis Martin isn't getting any younger. I think defensively, the Jets are pretty much set. As of right now, they rank in the top ten in every single category defensively- 6th against the run, 8th against the pass, 7th in total yards allowed and 3rd in points allowed. They might also want to think about upgrading that offensive line. Pennington and Carter (who actually has had a higher QB rating than Pennington in just one less game, although it wasn't as a starter so the stats are way off were Carter to attempt, say, about 100 passes or so more) have been sacked a combined 20 times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett Favre 0 Report post Posted December 4, 2004 You honestly believe that all that stands between the Jets and the Lombardi Trophy is a good tight end and a couple great cornerbacks? While the Jets have had a terrible year passing the ball statistically, that's mainly due to Pennington being out for the past month or so. But then again, they also don't really have any big receiving threat outside of Santana Moss. Chrebet just isn't the player he used to be, sadly enough, since I liked his toughness and what was once his ability to run after the catch. Also, Curtis Martin isn't getting any younger. I think defensively, the Jets are pretty much set. As of right now, they rank in the top ten in every single category defensively- 6th against the run, 8th against the pass, 7th in total yards allowed and 3rd in points allowed. They might also want to think about upgrading that offensive line. Pennington and Carter (who actually has had a higher QB rating than Pennington in just one less game, although it wasn't as a starter so the stats are way off were Carter to attempt, say, about 100 passes or so more) have been sacked a combined 20 times. I could live with the offensive line. The Jets really don't need another big time Wide Reciever. Justin McCareins is doing fine with Santana Moss, and I expect Jerricho Cotchery to get some playing time this year. I can't stress enough how much we need a good tight end. Since the offense is running, and dumping it off for short passes, a good tight end would greatly help. A tight end who can actually catch, get yac, and a tight end who can block very well, would only help Curtis Martin and the short passes. They could also use an offensive coordinator that's a little less conservative, although Hackett has improved somwhat this year. Curtis Martin keeps getting better, I mean, if we can sign LaMont Jordan that would be great but I doubt it. I like our defense, must re-sign John Abraham. I think they are putting the Franchise tag on him though. They already re-signed Shaun Ellis. Since the front 4 is what helps the rest of the defense, a big time cornerback or another safety would help a lot. The team is well rounded, except of course, they have no tight end, which is a big part of their offense, and would be bigger if they had one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites