A passing comment

[Dogbert 0]

I've recently read a few posts... well, more than a few... that have classified the Undertaker's recent push as a joke. These tend to use the facts that he is old and that his workrate has diminished as basis for this argument.

 

However, I've watched SmackDown a few times recently, and from what I've seen, the fans are going apeshit for him every time he makes an appearance. If the guy is over despite his lack of workrate, then why not push him? The idea has always been to give the fans what they want (at least, it should be), and watching SmackDown has shown me that the fans want the Undertaker at the top.

 

In summation, why not push the Undertaker now? Strike while the iron's hot and all.

 

Besides, it'd be better than JBL.

[Guest LooneyTune]

The Undertaker actually loses viewers when his segments are on, but not as many as JBL.

[Guest Thrashist]

Same reason Hogan gets huge pops every time he comes out, but putting Hogan at the top of the entire roster is bad business.

[Guest The Shadow Behind You]

He deserves a spot as a special attraction. NOT the main event.

 

The ratings point out; despite how over he is; they go DOWN.

 

Indicting the fans aren't buying him anymore.

 

Undertaker historically has NEVER been a draw. We don't, at least I don't like him getting a upper card push on the basis that he's over with the crowd.

 

So was Rikishi even in his final stages of his wwe employment, that doesn't mean he was deserving a title reign.

 

'Taker is SD!'s Ric Flair. The fans have a nostalgic attachment to The Dead Man but that doesn't justify a reign. Hogan proved this.

[Guest Trivia247]

they just want some MMA Super Shoot Spot machine to main event somebody no one outside of their fanbase ever heard about.

 

anyone over 35 just deserves to retire or die as far as they are concern. So whatever.

[AndrewTS 0]

they just want some MMA Super Shoot Spot machine to main event somebody no one outside of their fanbase ever heard about.

 

anyone over 35 just deserves to retire or die as far as they are concern. So whatever.

Yeah, don't bother to make a valid argument or address the points everybody discussed, biased Taker fan.

[Guest Trivia247]

they just want some MMA Super Shoot Spot machine to main event somebody no one outside of their fanbase ever heard about. 

 

anyone over 35 just deserves to retire or die as far as they are concern. So whatever.

Yeah, don't bother to make a valid argument or address the points everybody discussed, biased Taker fan.

As oppose to Bias Taker hating?

 

Ok here is a valid point...

 

As Long as Undertaker can go he can still be there. Despite his age he isn't an Abdullah the Butcher being active in the ring and winning titles at 70.

 

The Undertaker been making improvements and have been working steady in the ring the past year or so. People here have taken note of it. But if my biasiness is telling so is the bias just to hate him because he is older or slower or whatever excuse is thrown together and called Valid.

 

For Smackdown how many main eventers are there? Bradshaw, Guerrero, Angle, Big Show perhaps, Undertaker Booker T... Perhaps throw Cena in the mix sooner or later after the movie is done. How many programs would you like to exclude the Undertaker from? Would you rather see the Best of an Angle vs Big Show series for the World title instead? Perhaps Bradshaw and Angle? Or which ever. The difference between the atmosphere of Smackdown and Raw in terms of Main eventers is that the Main eventers still retain their spot in the sense that they are still contenders even if they lose. as oppose to Raw where HHH beats someone and all of a sudden they are back doing first shows of Heat.

 

The numbers drop when the Undertaker is on? Dramatically? Do people just involuntarly turn channels when the Dirge sounds? And why does it matter to us if the show loses a percentage of a point the 10 minutes that he comes on. Are we suddenly TV execs? Are you a employee of UPN? Does it matter NO.

 

Somehow a Billion Dollar company that spans 5 decades from three generations of mcMahons have survived the tv ratings game quite enough, they probably don't need fans so anal they need to watch the ratings. Besides? Why watch it anyway, its not like there is a "VALID" Competition anymore. That was the whole points of reading how the ratings is. Nitro vs Raw head to head who won who didn't?

 

I never heard of people having a cult following of a sitcom that they sit around and talk about the ratings numbers. Just enjoy the damn thing.

 

And in referance to what was said earlier comparing taker to flair and hogan. Unlike those two Undertaker is far more active as a wrestler.

 

There is no point getting into the same arguement that lasts the last five years he is hanging around till he feels like leaving, the WWE vince mcmahon, Stephanie mcmahon, Paul Heyman, and everyone else will keep him where he is Despite your objections. And remember this guy didn't run a family member over with his Bike...He is just doing his Job, Leave him alone.

[Guest LooneyTune]

Undertaker loses viewers...in technically terms, that means he isn't as popular as people want to believe. Crowds pop because of nostalgia. See Also: Hogan. I am the most bias fucker when it comes to Hogan, but even I know he shoudn't have been WWE champion in 2002.

[bob_barron 0]

As oppose to Bias Taker hating?

 

The Taker haters have a point though.

 

Ok here is a valid point...

 

As Long as Undertaker can go he can still be there. Despite his age he isn't an Abdullah the Butcher being active in the ring and winning titles at 70.

 

The Undertaker been making improvements and have been working steady in the ring the past year or so. People here have taken note of it. But if my biasiness is telling so is the bias just to hate him because he is older or slower or whatever excuse is thrown together and called Valid.

 

I don't get SD! but none of Taker's PPV matches have impressed me in the slightest. He no-sells and always makes his opponents look like shit.

 

For Smackdown how many main eventers are there? Bradshaw, Guerrero, Angle, Big Show perhaps, Undertaker Booker T... Perhaps throw Cena in the mix sooner or later after the movie is done. How many programs would you like to exclude the Undertaker from? Would you rather see the Best of an Angle vs Big Show series for the World title instead? Perhaps Bradshaw and Angle? Or which ever.

 

Yes. Anything is better then the Deadman. Tonight he kicked out of two frog splashes and he only lost case of Heidenreich. The guy's so over b/c he is never made to look weak.

 

as oppose to Raw where HHH beats someone and all of a sudden they are back doing first shows of Heat.

 

No.

 

The numbers drop when the Undertaker is on? Dramatically? Do people just involuntarly turn channels when the Dirge sounds? And why does it matter to us if the show loses a percentage of a point the 10 minutes that he comes on. Are we suddenly TV execs? Are you a employee of UPN? Does it matter NO.

 

People obviously aren't interest in him wrestling anymore if the numbers drop. Undertaker killed a guy yet still expected to get cheered. It doesn't matter to us if the numbers drop but it's an argument to stop pushing him in every main event.

 

 

Somehow a Billion Dollar company that spans 5 decades from three generations of mcMahons have survived the tv ratings game quite enough, they probably don't need fans so anal they need to watch the ratings. Besides? Why watch it anyway, its not like there is a "VALID" Competition anymore. That was the whole points of reading how the ratings is. Nitro vs Raw head to head who won who didn't?

 

Taker is the man so over that they did the wave during his title match at Summerslam and booed the main angle at No Mercy.

 

Just enjoy the damn thing.

 

Taker hampers my enjoyment.

 

And in referance to what was said earlier comparing taker to flair and hogan. Unlike those two Undertaker is far more active as a wrestler.

 

Taker is rarely on TV. Flair wrestles every week it seems.

 

There is no point getting into the same arguement that lasts the last five years he is hanging around till he feels like leaving, the WWE vince mcmahon, Stephanie mcmahon, Paul Heyman, and everyone else will keep him where he is Despite your objections. And remember this guy didn't run a family member over with his Bike...He is just doing his Job, Leave him alone.

 

So we all should just shut up and stop criticising the product? Why even post here then?

[Guest LooneyTune]

Undertaker wrestles on average 1 match a month on TV. When Hogan was on TV in 2002 he actually WRESTLED every week. During 2003, he pulled a Taker, but he actually jobbed to the Rock and Big Show during that time.

 

Flair wrestles every week unless he's injured (and rarely at that).

[Dogbert 0]

Fair enough. I really just wanted to have someone elaborate on the opinion for once.

 

I see where you're all coming from.

[Lil' Bitch 0]

If Taker doesn't win the WWE Championship at WM XXI against Kurt Angle according to that early rumor, what was the point of bringing him back as the Phenom?

[Guest M. Harry Smilac]

If Taker doesn't win the WWE Championship at WM XXI against Kurt Angle according to that early rumor, what was the point of bringing him back as the Phenom?

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Just imagine how many pennies Vince is pinching from the Underquaker shirt...