Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted January 17, 2005 We can talk about Orgazmo, if you want. Never watched. How about we discuss the re-runs of Shipmates on Spike TV? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giuseppe Zangara 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2005 I don't have cable. :\ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 17, 2005 But how can you say that? Its THEIR opinion if they watched the show for them. Some poeple may have seen it as that way. I did. I always thought Mike Myers sucked on SNL, and watched it for Sandler, Farley, and Hartman. I didn't know it almost went off the air, in fact, I thought most people thought that was one of the best casts ever. I do. To me carrying the show means being the centrepiece, being what the show was marketed around and until 94-95 it was really Myers and Hartman with Sandler and Farley doing their goofy bits in between. Spade was also part of this. Phil Hartman left after 1993-1994 and the show added some new blood and relied on Farley and Sandler to carry the show along with Myers and I guess Spade. It failed dismally- the show was almost cancelled, the Saturday Night Dead moniker was brought back up and people questioned whether Lorne lost his touch. Most of the episodes are horrible and very painful to watch. So bad that Lorne had to do another cast overhaul and had to let Farley and Sandler go. And luckily he got an awesome new cast and the show returned to prominence again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted January 17, 2005 It was? Man, maybe I'm missing something. Did you like Little Nicky? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Winter Of My Discontent Report post Posted January 17, 2005 I don't have cable. :\ Well let me tell you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 There's some people, like Norm McDonald, who the masses think sucks. It's Macdonald first of all. Not hard to remember the 'a'. shut up. shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. shut up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 Never! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Amazing Rando 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 "If you want to be nonconformist...you have to dress and act just like us." Sorry...just had to add that, as it went with the original post and didn't feel like reading everything in here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Failed Mascot Report post Posted January 18, 2005 Me and The Amazing Rando were talking about Pete and Pete on AIM last night and how that was TVs version of Alternative music back in the day. I bet Bob Barron never watched Pete and Pete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
godthedog 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 'pete and pete' was the shit. holds up really well too. i think sifl and olly were more the tv equivalent of alternative music. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Agent of Oblivion Report post Posted January 18, 2005 Norm MacDonald might be funny if he ever actually did anything worth a shit that wasn't the exact same schtick he does with everything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smh810 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 Elaborating somewhat on AoO's point, heres the deal with Norm Macdonald, he was outstanding on SNL and may have been the greatest Weekend Update anchor ever. However, Norm trying to do parlay that style into a sitcom (twice) just didnt work. Now as someone who enjoys Norm's humor I enjoyed both sitcoms and the Norm Show actually had a little success before ABC started shifting it into 50 different time slots. That being said, they just dont fit Norm's style and I think the sketch show he's now working on for Comedy Central has a much better shot at long-term success than the sitcoms ever did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nl5xsk1 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 My viewpoint on the matter has been stated numerous times. a drummer is someone who drums a lot, drums as their primary function in whatever band they happen to play in, and puts serious effort towards improving as a drummer. Trey Anastasio is the guitarist for Phish (technically, WAS the guitarist for Phish, but I digress) but has proven to be able to play drums really well. He played at least one song in most of their shows, can play multiple songs, from a variety of genres, and really seemed to be interested in playing them well. But, by your definition he can't be called a drummer because his primary function was to be the guitarist. Thus, I disagree with your assessment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 Me and The Amazing Rando were talking about Pete and Pete on AIM last night and how that was TVs version of Alternative music back in the day. I bet Bob Barron never watched Pete and Pete. I've seen lots of Pete and Pete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 Have you seen Perspectives from the Rob Lowe show? Probably the greatest forgotten skit in history and Meadows' best work. I'd give it ***** easily "This is Perspectives. I'm Lionel Osbourne." OH MAN that was good shit, nobody I ask remembers it, but if you've seen the shows they're making fun of, it's DEAD-ON. "And now, we fulfill the FCC's Spanish audience requirement with Los Perspectivos, with your host, me, Lionel Osbourne." classic. Hey what was that one sketch in the Quincy Jones episode where Kevin Nealon is the interviewer who needs tear gas to make Ronald Reagan cry? that was funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 Announcer: This Tuesday at nine, it's "The Bob Waltman Special". A rare look into the private world of some of the country's biggest celebrities. [ dissolve to file photo of Leona Helmesley accompanied by Bob Waltman voiceover ] Bob Waltman V/O: Billionairess Leona Helmesley. The self-annointed queen of the Helmesley hotel empire. She lived a life of opulence.. but, now, she faces charges of tax fraud that could put her behind bars for four years. [ dissolve to Bob Waltman chatting with Leona Helmesley ] Bob Waltman: You.. you've been called everything from the.. Wicked Witch of the West, to.. Tough Bitch. How does that make you feel. Leona Helmseley: [ sternly ] I'm an executive. I'm a woman. I'm tough. So they call me a bitch. Bob Waltman: Even with a new appeal, the likelihood of spending several years in a small prison cell, away from your lvoed ones.. that's gotta hurt. Leona Helmseley: It hurts. It, uh.. it's unfair. [ brief sniff ] Bob Waltman: No longer able to enjoy the luxuries that you worked so hard for, and deserve. Leona Helmseley: It's unfair, you know? It's, uh.. [ another sniff ] Oh, come on here, wait a minute, you're not gonna make me cry! I know that happens to a lot of your guests, but, uh.. after all, I do have to live up to my reputation. [ sniffs ] Bob Waltman: Oh, no, no.. that's all right. Everyone's allowed to have emotions. Especially victims. Now.. as a child, you were abandoned by your parents? Leona Helmseley: [ extended pause ] Yes. [ sniffs ] Bob Waltman: And I understand that recently, you had to fly.. coach? Leona Helmseley: [ breaks down into tears ] Bob Waltman: And now they're taking it all away from you. How does that make you feel? [ Leona collapses into herself, unable to stop the flow of tears ] [ Bob turns to the camera, perks up with a wide half-smile to congratulate himself for making his guest cry ] [ dissolve back to title graphics ] Announcer: "The Bob Waltman Special". No one gets closer. [ dissolve to file photo of Marion Barry accompanied by Bob Waltman voiceover ] Bob Waltman V/O: Marion Barry. He was a talented politician who had risen to national prominence. Then, suddenly, his political career - like the crack he purchased from the FBI - went up in smoke. He's determnied to tough it out. But is he tough enough? [ dissolve to Bob Waltman chatting with Marion Barry ] Bob Waltman: You were mayor of the nation's capitol.. an inspiration for so many.. and, then.. the arrest.. the humiliation. Marion Barry: Ve-ry unfortunate. But that's behind me now, and I'm looking forward to clearing up my name and getting re-elected. Bob Waltman: Yet, because of the harrassment and.. entrapment.. everything you've worked for is gone. Your career.. your family.. your reputation - all gone. And you can never get that back. Marion Barry: [ with regret ] Yeah.. I-I guess, uh.. sometimes things just ha-happen. Uh.. I'm sorry, I don't mean to- [ tries to hold back his tears ] Bob Waltman: No, no, no,no.. that's all right. There's no, uh.. there's no reason to be ashamed for showing our feelings. It's okay. [ continues the interview ] Your future looks bleak.. your personal problems are mounting.. ever ask yourself "Why?" Marion Barry: [ sniffs several times, then holds his hand to his nose for a giant snort ] Well, I-I-I, uh.. I-I think the biggest tragedy is that I let my family down.. [ sniffs, sniffs ] Bob Waltman: Where do you see Marion Barry in three years? Marion Barry: [ crying ] I-I don't know-ow.. Bob Waltman: A broken man? [ Marion Barry sniffs his way into more deep tears ] [ Bob turns to the camera, perks up with a wide half-smile to congratulate himself for making his guest cry ] [ dissolve back to title graphics ] Announcer: Bob Waltman. Opening doors and touching hearts. No one gets closer. [ dissolve to file photo of Tammy Faye Bakker accompanied by Bob Waltman voiceover ] Bob Waltman V/O: Tammy Faye Bakker. PTL survivor, supporter and wife of Jim Bakker. [ dissolve to Bob Waltman chatting with Tammy Faye Bakker ] Bob Waltman: Tammy, you- [ mascara already running, Tammy immediately breaks down into a heap of tears ] [ Bob turns to the camera, perks up with a wide half-smile to congratulate himself for making his guest cry ] [ dissolve back to title graphics ] Announcer: Bob Waltman. No one gets closer. [ dissolve to file photo of Ronald Reagan ccompanied by Bob Waltman voiceover ] Bob Waltman V/O: Ronald Reagan. Sportcaster-turned movie star-turned fortieth President of the United States-turned private citizen. Certainly a proud and illustrous career. He has everything in the world to be happy about. But is he? [ dissolve to Bob Waltman chatting with Ronald Reagan ] Bob Waltman: Mr. President. Did you hear about the little girl who lost her parents in that plane crash? Ronald Reagan: [ appearing lost ] Well.. no, I didn't. Nancy and I have been busy setting up camp in Los Angeles. She has a book out, you know? Bob Waltman: Hmm. What about the fathers, that were left behind on the Titanic? Kissing their children goodbye for the last time? Ronald Reagan: Well.. I've often though how those men were.. heroes. And, luckily, they.. build boats better now. Bob Waltman: Any regrets in your life, Mr. President? Ronald Reagan: No, I'm very happy, no complaints. Bob Waltman: What if anything ever happened to Nancy? you-you ever think about that? Ronald Reagan: [ thinking ] Well.. no. Nancy's got her ,i>book, you know? I.. I worked with Errol Flynn in the pictures. now, that's when Hollywood was magic! Bob Waltman: Whast if you go first.. and Nancy is left alone? Ronald Reagan: Well.. [ rubbing his eyes as a strange mist floats through the air ] Now.. Nancy stays.. pretty busy thiese days.. dinner parties for her book tour.. Bob Waltman: Mmm-hmm. Knowing it will never be the way it was. [ camera cuts to long-shot to reveal Bob wearing a face mask as he holds a canister of tear gas (clearly labeled) beneath Reagan's body ] Ronald Reagan: Well, I.. I, uh.. I, uh.. [ changes thought ] Pat O'Brien! [ rubs his eyes ] Oh, boy.. Bob Waltman: It's okay, we all have feelings. [ Bob turns to the camera, perks up with a wide half-smile underneath his protective face mask to congratulate himself for making his guest cry ] [ dissolve back to title graphics ] Announcer: The "Bob Waltman Special". No one gets closer. 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The Czech Republic 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 Strong work in finding that, but can any transcript can fully capture Kevin Nealon's shit-eating grin in that sketch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob_barron 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2005 I think Norm Show worked very well- as it was Norm's asshole persona playing off everyone else. Norm was at its best when it was just Norm being an asshole, getting himself into a stupid situation and then having to get out of it. ABC's interference (I can only assume) led to the horrible Norm-Jenny and Norm-Taylor-Danny love triangle that required the cast to actually act badly hurt the show and was the one thing that keeps Norm from being my favourite show. He did play the straight man role on Hooper and I think it worked. Fox gave up on the show after two episodes so it never had a chance to succeed and evolve Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
